The 2018 YT Jeffsy (and probably Capra, haven’t looked) are out, interestingly there’s zero GX/XO1 eagle across the range – I was expecting it to feature on most of the new Jeffsy bikes.
I’m guessing the frames haven’t changed from last year, just the spec and colours. Were they boost front and rear last year?
Instead every single model gets an e*thirteen 9-46 11 speed cassette with a range of shimano shifting options.
The CF pro at £3599 looks very well specced – XTR mech/shifter, carbon Raceface cranks and bars, Fox float perfomance front and rear (34 and DPS), Fox transfer dropper, e*thirteen wheels, Guide RSC brakes and it’s light at 12.6kg/27.8lbs – and the wheels aren’t especially light at 1850g so could be even lighter.
It comes in a much nicer red frame too
The CF Pro Race is dripping with carbon and bling but at £4499 I’m sure it’s gone up in price vs last years model? Yep – £3799, that’s a bit of a hike!
Yeah that’s a bold move speccing every bike with that e13 cassette,I wonder how durable they are for the £230. I guess people that pedal a fair bit and wear stuff out or peeps that don’t keep an eye on chainwear may balk at the like for like replacement costs.
It does seem like a strange move not specing Eagle as most other manufacturers have it on their 2018 bikes. Intense used these e13 cassettes in 2017 as a stop gap before 12 speed was available in lower groupsets, but I’ve got no idea on performance or durability.
I’ve only looked at the 29er, but the geometry still looks quite dated as the reach is fairly short and I think they’ve made a mistake having long seat tubes on the L and XL as it’s not going to be possible for a shorter rider to upsize and run a 150mm dropper.
I wonder how durable they are for the £230. I guess people that pedal a fair bit and wear stuff out or peeps that don’t keep an eye on chainwear may balk at the like for like replacement costs.
may balk…?
I love my Deore 2×10. Not sexy but very low cost to keep up running.
The YT Jeffsy bike is a beautiful machine – but this £230 cassette makes me wonder. Great, great range. But £230? Guess I would need one every year…?
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The 29er came first, by about 2 years. YT tend to run a mould for as long as possible, so frames don’t change year on year. 27 gives a good idea of what the next 29er will look like (possibly next year?).
the biggest news is the announcement that YT is stepping away from SRAM’s 1x groupsets
YT has dubbed this DIY-groupset of sorts ‘Eleven+’ and claims that it is “distinctly more durable and much easier to adjust” than a 12-speed drivetrain
It appears that YT really loves the e*thirteen components!
This indirectly means: YT criticized the SRAM 12-speed…
(Personally don’t have a 12-speed drivetrain and no e*thirteen 11-speed cassette. But above is interesting…)
YT might be in a bit of a piss with SRAM. I seem to recall SRAM equipped bikes avoid some import duty by shipping frames and finishing kit separately, where are YT ship their bikes direct to end users compete. I’m not sure that effects sales within the EU though.
Perhaps they just like the stuff, Shimano is usually a lot cheaper than SRAM and a bit of tribalism apart there’s not much to knock on it.
The cynic in me reckons that YT got a decent deal on the shimano xtr stuff with it going 1×12 this year, then the same on the e13 cassettes as part of the bulk deal for all the e13 components on the bikes (which there are a lot!).
Not saying it doesn’t work well, but imo I imagine they’re pushing it on cost grounds as it would be much safer just to spec eagle on all the bikes.
I like the idea of that cassette as it’s clever but not the price and the locking into itself interface scares me as it may take some good drive forces and wear/move or maybe it doesn’t-I know it’s a pipedream but if it was around £100 I may consider it .
Luckily I’m happy with my £80 11 speed GX Sram ones which I’m guessing would be the cheapest XD cassette 11 speed ‘downgrade’ option for the people who buy these bikes.
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The cynic in me reckons that YT got a decent deal on the shimano xtr stuff with it going 1×12 this year, then the same on the e13 cassettes as part of the bulk deal for all the e13 components on the bikes (which there are a lot!).
Not saying it doesn’t work well, but imo I imagine they’re pushing it on cost grounds as it would be much safer just to spec eagle on all the bikes.
There is the argument that if you’re somewhere with a lack of bike shops 11 speed stuff is easier to get hold of, but I too think it’s been done for cost – count up the amount of e*thirteen parts on the bikes and it makes sense that they got the lot on a decent discount.
count up the amount of e*thirteen parts on the bikes and it makes sense that they got the lot on a decent discount.
good points.
But additional to this:
Also an indication that there is no clear cost efficient technical path yet in the 2×10,2×11,1×11,1×12 Shimano/SRAM/e*thirteen discussion.
Personally: like this situation.
Exciting!
(so far, for me: clear only that 3×10 for new bikes is no option any more. But that was clear before the 2018 Jeffsy spec was published!)
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does seem am odd set up. Shimano shifters and RD, Sram brakes, 13 cranks and cassette.
I suspect they got a pretty good deal on the E13 cassettes as a lot of people will probably just replace like for like no knowing they can got a cheaper 10-42 GX for £75 and with 3 aluminium sprockets they will wear out!
Because SRAM enforces purchase of the full Eagle group [for OEM]
That right there must be the explanation. From a GT rep in the DUB q&a over on Pinkbike. YT probably wanted e13 cranks as they’ve done before and SRAM just wouldn’t play ball.