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  • 20 out of 21 TdF Podium Finishers with Doping Accusations – who was clean one?
  • glupton1976
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    Who was the clean rider out of the 21 TdF podium finishers during the 1999-2005 Lance years?

    1999
    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Alex Zülle (‘98 busted for EPO)
    3. Fernando Escartín (Systematic team doping exposed in ‘04)
    4. Laurent Dufaux (‘98 busted for EPO)
    5. Ángel Casero (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)

    2000
    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    3. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    4. Christophe Moraue (‘98 busted for EPO)
    5. Roberto Heras (‘05 busted for EPO)

    2001
    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    3. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    4. Andrei Kivilev
    5. Igor González de Galdeano (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)

    2002
    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Joseba Beloki (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    3. Raimondas Rumšas (Suspended in ‘03 for doping)
    4. Santiago Botero (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    5. Igor González de Galdeano (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)

    2003
    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    3. Alexander Vinokourov (Suspended in ‘07 for CERA)
    4. Tyler Hamilton (Suspended ‘04 for blood doping)
    5. Haimar Zubeldia

    2004
    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Andreas Kloden (Named in doping case in ‘08)
    3. Ivan Basso (Suspended in ‘07 for Operacion Puerto ties)
    4. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    5. Jose Azevedo (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)

    2005
    1. Lance Armstrong
    2. Ivan Basso (Suspended in ‘07 for Operacion Puerto ties)
    3. Jan Ullrich (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    4. Fransico Mancebo (‘06 implicated in Operacion Puerto)
    5. Alexander Vinokourov (Suspended in ‘07 for CERA)

    Posted 11 years ago
    imnotverygood
    Full Member

    Escartin I believe

    Posted 11 years ago
    glupton1976
    Free Member

    That’s what the BBC reckon. But a clean rider at Kelme?

    Posted 11 years ago
    mikewsmith
    Free Member

    20 out of 21 TdF Podium Finishers with Doping Accusations – who was clean one?[b]didn’t get caught[/b]

    FIFY

    Posted 11 years ago
    bigG
    Free Member

    Does this help?

    Posted 11 years ago
    glupton1976
    Free Member

    Not really. It’s a great picture though.

    Posted 11 years ago
    faz083
    Free Member

    Have a look at this article guys. And more importantly this image:

    Obviously obsolete now but it shows just how far back you have to go to get a real winner who was never accused of doping; for example in 2006 you have to go back to 8th place.

    http://www.cyclingtipsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/armstrong1150px.jpg

    http://www.cyclingtips.com.au/2011/06/the-armstrong-era/

    Posted 11 years ago
    bikerdan
    Free Member

    Ullrich has never been found guilty has he? Could that make him 5 (potentially 6) time winner?

    Posted 11 years ago
    clubber
    Free Member

    Ullrich has now admitted it.

    Posted 11 years ago
    oldgit
    Free Member

    Hinault was the man of my era, if clean then a real stand out rider.

    Posted 11 years ago
    clubber
    Free Member

    no reallocation of tdf places

    http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tour-de-france-director-against-reassigning-armstrongs-victories

    Posted 11 years ago
    ampthill
    Full Member

    I would say that its not really a good idea to try a count back to clean rider game and the re allocate the win

    Its probably best if it all comes out so that UCI etc. can think long and hard about how badly it stuffed up. I think a rider thinking that they can pick up a retrospective win by keeping quiet will not help people understand what was going on

    So is it assumed that Indurain was clean or better at keeping quiet and keeping out of the lime light. Are his performances credible? This article says that post tour performances were not credable from the mid 1990s onwards…..

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18921784

    Posted 11 years ago
    michaelmcc
    Free Member

    I’ve pretty much lost interest in the pro peloton over the last few years, hard to take is seriously as a sport anymore. Its becoming more a sport of “whose the best doper”, rather than a sport of battling clean athletes, which I don’t it ever will be.

    Posted 11 years ago
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