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single track magazine and single track
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WorldCom and welcome to fresh Goods Down
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Under
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now this is a live Q&A chat this is a
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weekly video that I'm doing every Friday
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morning in Australia if you're in the UK
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that might be Thursday is Thursday
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evening if you're in the u.s. it's
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sometime during Thursday and if you're
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in other parts of the world well you're
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at other times of the day also I can't
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work out those times it depends where
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you are and if you are tuning in I'd
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love to hear whereabouts you're watching
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from we're trying to do this video every
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Friday so if you want to join us it's
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gonna be at the same time every Friday
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we will talk about test bikes I've got
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on the go going to talk about test
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product that we have on the go as well
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and also just general news stories that
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have hit single track this week there's
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been loads and loads of new product
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releases in the past week I've got loads
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and loads and loads to chat about got
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loads of notes here I do want to have a
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bit of a chat about some of the stuff
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I've got on this bike and also some of
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the setup changes I've made to this test
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bike this is a giant trance 29er
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and I've had this for a couple of weeks
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now about three weeks so a bit of riding
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on it so far and a good chance to
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compare it to other test bikes like the
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canyon neuron CF which I'm just about to
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wrap up with also receiving a Murray
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2:120 trail bike pivot trail four to
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nine white s120 loads of trail bikes and
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I'm testing at the moment Brant that are
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brand new and including this one here so
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if you've got any questions for me about
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this test bike and any of the stuff
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that's on here that we're gonna go
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through today drop them in the comments
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section below this is a live video I
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have my wonderful phone in front of you
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here so I can answer any questions
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you've got whether they're about this
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bike or just any general questions
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you've got otherwise so if you're going
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to set up questions or you're looking at
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getting a new bike oh we've got a good
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morning there from Tony Tony Tony oh boy
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good morning to you sir thanks for
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joining and thanks for tuning in let me
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know whereabouts you're watching from
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we've got a we've got a few people here
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tuning in I can see that up there
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welcome plate thanks for joining us on
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fresh Goods down under this is
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apparently episode 7 and I was just
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saying before they're gonna be doing
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this Friday morning video every week so
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so please oh we've got someone there
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tuning in from Switzerland hello Timothy
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welcome welcome shed life guys back in
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hey welcome shed life guys thanks for
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tuning thanks for tuning in if you've
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got any questions if you've got any
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wonderful new products that you want to
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let us know about you've been very
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useful the past few weeks to let us know
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about new electronic wireless
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drivetrains because that's something
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we're going to talk about today we've
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got balls-deep mtv hey mate from the
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Sunshine Coast welcome thanks for tuning
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in and we've got Fausto there
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saludos welcome shed lifeguard we
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wouldn't miss it mate awesome
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thanks for tuning in and we've got Dan
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Noble hello from England nice little
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flag there welcome to a slightly warmer
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part of the world and we've got do you
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know Timothy's asking about do you know
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about Afton shoes that's a really good
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question
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I know a little bit about them I saw
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them at your euro bike I think it was
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last year it might have been the year
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before they're doing like a flat pedal
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shoe and also like a trail style or
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skate style SPD shoe aren't they I've
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not had any experience with them
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whatsoever myself so I've only seen them
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in the flesh so I can't give you a whole
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lot of info about them otherwise you're
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looking at buying a pair is that or if
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you already got a pair Tania oh boy from
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Gold Coast here by the way will oh well
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welcome from from the sunny Gold Coast
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probably a little bit warmer up there
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than it is down here I would imagine and
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ennobles giving me yeah yeah I think
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we're just commenting about the the the
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temperature difference between the UK
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and Australia which is a hot topic of
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conversation that's Timothy yeah I have
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a pair that still haven't got to try
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them okay so we're talking about after
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and shoes Timothy are they flats or
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clippings are you running the after news
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and it'd be really interesting to know
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if what you're comparing them to as well
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have you is this your first pair of flat
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shoes or your first pair of or you've
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got SPD's okay what shoes were using
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before it and why did you choose the
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Afton's I'm really interested because
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they're they're pretty new
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there are otherwise quite a small brand
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when it comes to Footwear to be
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interesting to know why you went with
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those ones but they do look fantastic
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I'll give you that for sure
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life guy my MRP hazard with the
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progressive spring finally arrived ok
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good to hear
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also the monkey link modular system tell
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me more what's that oh this is this was
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this the saddle clip shed life guys this
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we're talking about a little modular
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system for clipping on lights and saddle
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bags and mud guards and stuff like that
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is that the the monkey link modular
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system or am i way off the ball there is
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my memory of aiding me and I can't
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remember what you are what you're on
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about
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but that's really interesting about the
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progressive spring so we're just talking
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about the MRP hazard which is a coil
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sprung shock Emma peas built that hazard
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shock it's named after a trail in Moab
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in Utah isn't it and it's it's designed
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it's kind of like a trail bike coil
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shock so although clove shocks and coil
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forks have generally been targeted
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towards downhill riders Free Riders and
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kind of more hardcore Park enthusiasts
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coil suspension definitely getting more
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popular with trail bikes and enduro
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bikes after all as far as the coil
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springs concerned it really doesn't get
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any simpler than a coil spring and it
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also tends to be smoother because you've
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got less friction from less seals with
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an air sprung fork like this one you've
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got a couple of seals in here to keep
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the air inside a sealed chamber and
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weather it whereas with a coil spring
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you don't have those seals so in general
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you will get a smoother suspension feel
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all sticky nut is in the house hi guys
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welcome sticky nut
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Timothy's saying I've had some Mavic
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enduro SPD shoes but the Afton ones have
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better protection and they are more
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waterproof that's interesting and they
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don't look like bike shoes so you can
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still wear them around I guess yeah
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that's true you know they're kind of
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more of a casual style which I like as
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well Ben Waldman watching you whilst on
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the throne your voice echoes nicely in
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here well I'm glad to provide those kind
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of acoustics for you I hope it's very
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soothing and and I hope your movements
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are also very soothing as well shed live
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guy note fenders lights etc fully open
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for anyone to make something that
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with their feed lock system ah this is
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what we were talking about and that's a
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great little segue you're providing me
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there shed life guy because I will talk
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about this food lock bottle and Tanya oh
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boy is saying well I'm really looking
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into getting the trance to 29er and
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getting to demo one what would you think
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size frame would suit me I'm a hundred
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and seventy three centimeters or five
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foot seven inches tall well I can help
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you there I am just ever so slightly
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taller than you and I am riding a medium
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in the trance 29er now as you can tell
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here I've got loads of room for my seat
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post this is a 125 milk dropper that
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comes on the medium and the small frames
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the large and extra-large frames come
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with a 150 ml dropper but the medium and
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small they come with this guy here that
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does mean there's a bit of exposed seat
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post here so even if your legs are
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shorter than mine even if your saddle
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height is shorter than mine there's
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quite a big range of adjustment there so
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at your height at five foot seven
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hundred and seventy three centimeters
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you're just two centimeters shorter than
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me
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I think the medium would be a good one
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to go for the small is going to get it's
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gonna start to get a bit shorter in that
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top tube length mind you these chances
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are pretty long relative to other giant
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full suspension bikes I should say that
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relative to a pole or geometry on
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they're not but relative to other giants
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and perhaps other mass-produced brands
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on the market like specialize and track
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and mereta
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it's fairly long I think the reach on
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this is 442 443 millimeters so it's
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pretty long for for a 29 of trail bike
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but still at your height I reckon the
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the medium would be the way to go Tony
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oh boy awesome will thanks for the input
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god bless and more power guys absolutely
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no worries glad I could help out mate
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balls-deep MTB how did you find the 115
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millimeter travel on the rear trans did
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it feel like enough for aggressive trail
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running great question and a totally
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valid question as well because the trans
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29er it's got quite a bit less travel
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than the trance 2075 so this guy has 115
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on the back and 130 on the front
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obviously 29 inch wheels so they provide
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a different ride characteristic to 27.5
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inch wheels but it is quite a bit less
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travel than the trail
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- 27 5 which has 150 and 140 millimeters
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of travel 115 on the back of this it
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works really really well it's ultimately
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still 115 millimeters so so where I've
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noticed that is on kind of bigger hits
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where a little bit a little bit of extra
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insurance is kind of nice from having
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longer travel on the back of the bike
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you do notice it a bit more but in terms
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of the quality the suspension it's very
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very high very very supple we've got a
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lovely DPX to shock on here with a
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piggyback check that little guy out
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there so a nice kind of robust robust
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enduro style shock on a short travel
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trail bike and with that turn your mount
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with the maestro suspension design very
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very supple very good small bump
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sensitivity really active through the
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mid stroke it does ramp up pretty well I
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think if you were hitting much bigger
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gaps and drops and doubles and just
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generally being rad and I think you
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might want to put a volume spacer inside
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that rear shock just to get it to kick
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up a little bit more towards the end and
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also to give it a bit more support in
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the middle of the travel and for
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aggressive trail riding though like fast
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rapid you know rough trail riding I
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think it works really well out of the
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box so far so very very impressed with
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115 mil of travel on the back of this
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bike so fast a great question for me
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we've got specialised lh7 6l you do I
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think you need to work on your YouTube
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handle it could be a little bit easier
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to say that looks like a car
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registration plate but hello welcome to
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the live video so got loads of people
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tuning in here so we were just talking
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before about or life guy was
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bringing up in the comment section here
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about the visit the monkey modular
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monkey Matic modular system I'm making
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up words now I could go through the
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comments and reread it but we're doing
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that magnetic system and we can pull
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balls-deep MTB cheers mate I think
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overall the one today alright well glad
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glad I helped you out with that one yeah
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I think it's so far I'm really really
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impressed with this bike I think it's
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fantastic right so this is check this
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out and this is a fit lock water bottle
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I know if you can see that the right way
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around cuz it's on the FaceTime camera
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on my phone
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FID lock water bottle so it's what six
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hundred mil water bottle I think yes six
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hundred mil but it's got this kind of
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like receiver on the molded into the
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underside of the bottle and it's
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designed let me just put that on my leg
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there with magnets to just clip right
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onto the frame so there's actually two
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magnetic stubs the bolt onto the frame
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where a bottle cage would normally go so
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they use exactly the same two bolts that
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a bottle cage would fit on and but we've
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got these two round stubs and they
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interlock with those two receivers there
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there's corresponding magnets up here
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and it just clips on like that it's
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bloody brilliant and to remove the water
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bottle all you do is you grab it and you
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twist it to the side in this case to the
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right and then it just unclips
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it's super duper easy and you just hover
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the bottle above and it just clips in so
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you can feel the magnets they're quite
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powerful and it just sucks it down and
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Clips it on now I've written with this
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for I don't know 18 months or so now I
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just found it in the office and decided
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to bolted onto the bike the bottle has
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never dropped off yet I've got to find
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something made of wood there we go
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touchwood it's never fallen off yet
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which is which I'm really happy about
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I'm sure there's um maybe it could I
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don't know but you'd have to be doing
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something really really rad maybe you
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like tail whipping or my bar spinning or
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something which thankfully I don't do a
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lot of and but really even on rough
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terrain it won't come off the it won't
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come off the receiver I just hadn't had
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it pop off you actually have to manually
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physically twist it to the side to undo
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it there's a little you might be able to
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see here but there's a little central
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stub which sits up here and that
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provides a bit more security to the
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bottle when it's locked in place so
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that's the fifth lock water bottle I
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don't have a price on that I seem to
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recall it being relatively cheap but a
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really nice design I quite like it
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because it looks clean and you don't
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have like a bottle cage around here and
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when you take the bottle off it's much
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cleaner as well because is there's no
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bottle cage so very very simple what do
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you guys think
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is that cool total gimmick not
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interested
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have you used fiddle of products
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elsewhere because this brand fit lock if
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you've got a laser helmet or a bell
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super D H they actually make the
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magnetic clip for the chin so that's the
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same brand feed lock so they're doing
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magnet based magnetic based products
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everywhere and I think even the new YT
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GFC actually has sorry I'll get the bike
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up there this particular component here
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actually built into the frame itself so
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gives it a really clean look because you
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don't have that external those external
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stuffs there but yeah the whole feed
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lock bottle and magnetic system seems to
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be getting more popular Timothy because
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I'm looking for a new frame but I kind
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of prefer the old frame hold on Oh what
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about the new strive 29 I think it is
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kind of kind of weird except that the
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new shapeshifter is better because I'm
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looking for a new frame but I kind of
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prefer the old frame
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I saw the strive only a few days ago I
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went and dropped off that neuron test
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bike back to Canyon Australia and they
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had one of the new strives there it
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looks really really nice it was the one
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with the Mavic wheels with the yellow
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spoke on it the d-max pro wheels xo1
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drivetrain really really clean I don't
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know about the new shapeshifter control
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I mean the control itself looks really
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good but the way that the dropper post
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lever bolts onto me onto it underneath
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kind of creates quite a well I mean it I
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guess it's not that much bigger than a
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front shifter used to be remember those
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and but it does look pretty kind of big
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it kind of sticks out there sort of
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looks like it's hovering around around
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in the knee cap area so I'd have to ride
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one myself to kind of get a feel for
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that clearance and whether that's a
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problem or not but yeah then you strive
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I think it looks really good it's sort
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of a very typical kind of approach from
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Canyon you know nothing too radical but
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very you know meticulously engineered as
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well but yeah I think a few people have
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looked at that strive and kind of wanted
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it to be perhaps a bit
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slacker or a bit longer or whatever but
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I think Kenyon does a good job of
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building kind of well-rounded bikes
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they're not necessarily biased towards
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just ascending or just climbing they're
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kind of that strive looks like a really
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nice all-rounder bike particularly with
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the shapeshifter and now it's made it by
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Fox as well that little shapeshifter
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shocked that's a that's that's fantastic
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I think a lot of potential owners will
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be very happy about the fact that Fox is
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taking care of both manufacturing and
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service components for that shapeshifter
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unit so that is pretty cool I think we
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had some more questions we've got people
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tuning in here live if you're just
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joining us welcome thanks for joining
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fresh grids down under and Timothy is oh
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yeah so he's mentioning about the bills
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super D hate and I love it especially
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the magnetic clip totally a big fan of
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that super D H that is a really really
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good helmet and we're just talking about
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this magnetic bottle so this is a food
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lock bottle and Fiddle off also make the
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magnetic clasps that some brands use for
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the chin strap on their helmets amongst
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other things as well so that's pretty
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new what we're going to talk about so I
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want to talk about the grips on this
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bike because I've changed these out I'd
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love to hear from you guys if you have a
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particular favorite grip I'm not a bit
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of a mission at the moment to try out
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different lock-on grips really simple
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thing usually fairly cheap relative to
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other parts on the bike anyway I think
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these DMR grips they're less than 20
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quid they might be around 16 or 17 quid
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for the pair Oh Craig Bromley is just
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asking how heavy is the FID lock that's
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a really good question Craig I've not
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weighed it it can't be that much more
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than a standard bottle cage I'm guessing
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it'll be heavier than you know super
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lightweight carbon bottle cage but it's
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not too bad at the moment it's kind of
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heavy because it has water in it it'll
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be lighter without water though
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life guy is saying there are all German
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companies what sold me on the rear
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fender is its twin pivot with a built-in
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light you can set them out in any axis
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then adjust the fender to get a perfect
17:30
setup that sounds really neat we're
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gonna have to see a photo of all this
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I'm really interested on what that looks
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like shed life guy and Timothy saying
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arrghh on GD one those are very very
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nice grips they've got they're sort of
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tapered profile aren't they they're
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thinner in the middle and they gently
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taper to a thicker outside which I think
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makes a lot of sense
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these are DMR death grips these
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currently one of my favorite grips on
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the market at the moment they come in a
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couple of different versions actually
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there's loads of different versions they
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come in this is the flange lift grip so
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normally DMR death grips or the
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traditional ones have like a big flange
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around on the inside just between the
18:07
lock on and the rubber grip I don't
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really like that because I've got little
18:11
hands and that flange tends to catch my
18:14
thumbs when I'm going to hit a shifter
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or go to hit the drop a post shared life
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guy how would I send you pictures can
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you add them into the comment section
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here life guy maybe try that if
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that's an option I don't know if you can
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but yes so these are flange Luis death
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grips and they come in thick or thin
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I've got the thin ones I like a nice
18:36
thin grip again I've got sort of small
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to medium sized hands so generally it's
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a good idea to set your grip thickness
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depending on how big your hand is so the
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bigger hand
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the thicker the grip really this is the
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soft compound so really nice soft
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tactile it's got ridges underneath the
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bottom here it's got an oil pattern on
18:55
top and a mushroom pattern on the inside
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really good combo it's a really tactile
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easy grip to kind of you know when
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you're kind of bashing down the trail
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and you're kind of moving about your
19:04
hands might be moving about on the grip
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without looking down like without
19:08
physically looking down at the grip you
19:10
can very quickly tell whereabouts you
19:13
are on the handle bar because it's such
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a tactile pattern and it's very clear as
19:17
to whereabouts you are on the grip so I
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really like these I ride them with them
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without gloves they do cheer you up a
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little bit if you're not wearing gloves
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particularly if it's a bit sweaty
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Timothy is it true the DMR death grip
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wear out quite fast yeah look I've had
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this for a while and these are still
19:33
looking fairly good and but they do a
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race date I think it's called the race
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compound or the race day compound
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they're even softer and those ones
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pretty much for race day kind of like
19:44
race day tires you know super sticky
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compound that is going to sacrifice
19:49
durability for grip so so these aren't
19:53
the race day compound
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but they are pretty soft as they are so
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far they're wearing pretty well shared
19:59
life guys sorry YouTube won't let me
20:01
have have you got a drop box at
20:02
singletrack towers we do but I cannot
20:05
remember it off the top of my head why
20:08
don't you just send it into my email
20:09
address I'm just going to broadcast this
20:10
on live video it's will WI L at
20:16
singletrack Worldcom and so I'm about to
20:19
be bombarded with a load of fan mail but
20:20
as long as you send me the photo it'll
20:22
be worth it
20:24
balls-deep MTV have you still got the
20:26
stock tires on the trans have you
20:28
experimented with something wider that
20:30
is a very good question I haven't had a
20:32
chance to try a wider tire in the rear I
20:34
think if if you join the live Q&A video
20:37
on this bike from a couple of weeks ago
20:38
I was talking about tire clearance on
20:40
the back this has a two point three inch
20:43
Maxis minion tire now here's something
20:46
perhaps you might find interesting or
20:48
not the minion dhf normally comes on the
20:52
front of this bike and the DHR normally
20:54
comes on the back but I've switched them
20:55
around because I find the dhf a little
20:58
bit faster rolling and I find the DHR a
21:01
little bit grippier particularly in the
21:02
turns it's a pretty aggressive front
21:05
tire but I like that gives you a load of
21:08
braking traction on kind of rough steep
21:09
trails so I've switched them around you
21:12
don't have to do that but but I decided
21:14
to because I prefer them that way and
21:15
this is a 2.3 inch minion dhf and it's a
21:19
two point three inch DHR on the front
21:22
now there's loads of clearance in the
21:24
back of this frame for this 2.3 inch
21:26
tire I reckon you could get a 2.5 in
21:28
there pretty comfortably but I will find
21:30
that out for you balls-deep MTV who is
21:32
asking if I've experimented with
21:34
anything wider on this bike the fork
21:36
will clear quite a bit wider I think you
21:38
can go up to a 2.8 now on these Fox
21:40
Forks at least a 2.6 maybe a 2.8 so yeah
21:45
interesting to try this might we say 2.5
21:47
rubber turn into a really aggressive
21:49
kind of downhill oriented bike that's it
21:52
with this tire combo on here they're not
21:54
the fastest rolling tires and I think
21:57
they're laying at nearly a kilogram each
21:59
they're around that sort of 939 50 gram
22:01
mark for the for the front and rear
22:03
tires so you know it's quite a lot of
22:06
rotation
22:06
maths for a trail bike so it depends on
22:09
where your priorities are for for
22:12
acceleration climbing speed versus you
22:17
know downhill traction predictability
22:19
and that kind of thing so I think it's a
22:21
pretty good match for this bike if
22:23
anything I kind of like the idea running
22:25
maybe like a minion SS on the back it's
22:28
super dry and dusty here at the moment
22:29
it's summer in Australia so a lot of the
22:31
local trails are very rocky they're very
22:33
loose but they're quite dry and dusty
22:35
and I think that minion SS or some kind
22:38
of semi slick tire in the back would be
22:40
a nice option to kind of give this bike
22:42
a little bit more speed a little bit
22:43
more climbing speed and a bit better
22:45
acceleration without sacrificing
22:47
cornering grip too much so that might be
22:50
a tire worth checking out if any of you
22:52
guys have got any recommendations for
22:53
different tires I can try on this bike
22:55
let me know I'd love to hear your
22:56
recommendations not just on grips we're
22:59
talking about different lock-on grips
23:01
here but also about tires and just to go
23:04
back to these DMR death grips the stock
23:06
giant grips not a big fan off
23:08
I find them the compounds a bit firm the
23:11
density and the pattern is just doesn't
23:13
quite suit me so I put on these death
23:16
grips because I did have them hanging
23:18
about in my workshop tool box and big
23:21
fan of these very very nice I've had
23:23
some more questions coming through we've
23:24
got people tuning in live here welcome
23:26
to the live video models I'm still
23:29
loving my Maxis 2.8 yeah that's a big
23:32
tire modest what max is 2.8 s do you
23:35
have are you running something like a
23:37
recon or a high roller or a DHR or have
23:41
you got something a bit faster rolling
23:43
than that 2.8 inch that is a big plus
23:45
tire and we're talking 29 or 27.5 what
23:48
kind of bike have you got them on as
23:50
well let me know I'd love to know what
23:51
bike you're riding and what kind of
23:53
setup you've got on there
23:55
it's always fine really interesting
23:57
about the way that stock bikes come
23:59
built but how you can change a few
24:01
components on there and completely or
24:03
well completely yeah completely changed
24:06
the personality the bike by putting on a
24:08
different handlebar or stem by putting
24:10
on different tires or what I did with
24:13
that canyon neuron last week by changing
24:15
the fork offset and giving it slightly
24:17
different handling that was
24:18
really interesting kind of process so
24:21
one thing I want to talk about here
24:23
which is right in my face I might as
24:24
well talk about it last week we had this
24:26
bag arrived this is from bike bag dude
24:28
and this is a top shoe bag I guess if
24:31
you're a triathlete they'll be called a
24:33
feat you know top tube feed bag this is
24:34
where you put all your gels all their be
24:37
apos be erasing but for me this is kind
24:41
of a really useful device to carry a
24:44
spare tube
24:45
I've got troopers plugs in here tie
24:47
levers to repair kit I've got I've got
24:53
my tire pressure gauge which is which
24:55
follows me on every single ride here
24:58
we've got tire levers co2 patches got a
25:03
spare valve in there as well I've got a
25:06
little valve tightening tool very
25:07
important I've had that happen enough to
25:10
me before spare chain links as well
25:12
got Mac's salami this is a true bliss
25:15
replace repair kit so they're the little
25:18
plugs that you poke into the the into
25:20
the tire carcass itself to plug them up
25:22
some spare zip ties we've got here or
25:25
cable ties if you will
25:26
co2 head as well and the tubes in tucked
25:30
in there nice and neatly as well so it
25:32
basically carries kind of all the
25:34
emergency essentials that I might need
25:36
you know if I get stuck out in the woods
25:39
because I've got a silly puncture or
25:42
something stupids happened and I need to
25:44
repair the bike to keep riding this is
25:47
kind of my emergency kit but what I like
25:50
about this style of bag is it's really
25:53
easy to take off it's got two velcro
25:54
straps we've got one here one here sorry
25:57
three velcro straps two underneath the
25:59
top tube and one up at the head tube
26:00
that keeps it quite stable on the bike
26:02
but it also means it's really easy to
26:05
take off and I can put this onto another
26:07
test bike quite easily and quickly and
26:10
know that I've got all those essentials
26:12
with me on every ride I don't have to
26:13
worry if I'm if I've got all that stuff
26:15
with me in my backpack I know that I
26:17
physically got it right in front of me
26:19
so yeah quite quite useful to have all
26:22
that handy and you know to carry
26:26
emergency gels and stuff like that too
26:28
so I'd love to know what you think about
26:31
that I think it's it's a pretty big bag
26:33
so far I like it the only thing I don't
26:36
like is that the zip kind of makes a bit
26:39
of noise there when when a bouncing
26:41
around on the trail so I don't know if
26:44
there's a fix that I can you hear that
26:47
yeah if you bouncing out on the trail it
26:49
does get a little bit distracting so
26:50
I'll speak to Keaton and bike bag dude
26:52
and see if there's a hack or some kind
26:55
of solution to that noise but so far I
26:57
think it works really well
26:58
models is saying he's got a white 905
27:01
oh yeah that's like the the trail hard
27:04
tail we tested one of those last year I
27:06
didn't but the girls did and they
27:08
absolutely loved it thought it was a
27:10
wicked hard tail so you've got a recon
27:12
2.8 on the back and a high roller to
27:15
point out on the front that is a really
27:17
good tire combo that high roller that
27:19
plus-sized high roller it's absolutely
27:21
brilliant isn't it
27:22
2.8 inches wide probably not the fastest
27:25
tire but at least you've got the recon
27:27
on the back so bit faster rolling rear
27:30
tire and something up front with a bit
27:32
more cornering tread and a bit more
27:33
predictability for rough kind of I
27:36
presume British riding we're about to
27:39
you from modders I'm making an
27:40
assumption there to be great to know but
27:42
if you've got a white 9:05 hard tail my
27:44
spidey sense is telling me you're
27:45
probably uk-based but let me know
27:48
whereabouts in the world you're watching
27:49
from we've got more people tuning in
27:51
live here welcome to the live feed this
27:53
is fresh goods Down Under
27:55
where we're talking about test bikes
27:56
we're talking about test product and
27:57
we're talking about new product that's
27:59
turned up or as being on the single
28:02
track website this week I've got a few
28:04
things I want to talk about here
28:06
shared life guy was chatting before
28:07
about an MRP hazard coil shock now last
28:11
week I think it was over the weekend
28:12
actually we had a review go up well
28:14
models is saying an absolute hoot to
28:16
ride the white no no five heart out yeah
28:19
Timothy I use a Schwab magic Mary front
28:22
and hand stamp on the rear nice yeah the
28:24
magic Mary that is a really really good
28:26
stick eat I can recommend that one for
28:29
sure not the fastest not the most
28:31
durable but very very good grip to
28:35
a blanket grip I believe is the correct
28:37
term and so coil sharks we reviewed or I
28:40
didn't test it myself but
28:42
one of our testers Tom Nash reviewed Oh
28:46
modders UK your spidey senses are on
28:48
point yeah welcome or happy Thursday
28:52
evening mothers by the way it's Friday
28:53
morning here in Australia but it's
28:55
Thursday meaning more Thursday evening
28:57
where you are so I hope you're having a
28:59
wonderful evening there in the UK
29:01
Timothy and 4xe I use continental
29:04
ex-king front and race career nice
29:06
combination yeah good good good combos
29:09
that Timothy's running there with front
29:11
tire slightly wider slightly toothed ear
29:13
on the front where you want that
29:15
traction you want that stability you can
29:17
get away with the rear tire being a
29:18
little bit lighter a little bit faster
29:20
and sometimes a little bit narrower as
29:22
well basically we're at the front tires
29:24
going to go the rear is probably going
29:26
to follow so you can get away with that
29:28
rear tire being a little bit quicker I
29:29
want to talk about the push 11:6 coil
29:33
shock this is a thirteen hundred pound
29:37
coil shock
29:38
now push of course is a aftermarket
29:42
suspension brand they make fork seals
29:44
they make bearing kits for rear shocks
29:47
or sorry bushing kits for rear shocks
29:50
but they do make or they have for the
29:53
last couple of years they make a coil
29:54
shop called the 11 six with just
29:57
finished testing one it's nearly 1300
30:00
pounds for a rear shock it's
30:02
extraordinarily expensive would any of
30:05
you would it any of you watching this at
30:07
moment would you spend 1,300 quid on a
30:10
rear shock is that something that you
30:11
think yeah I can see the value in that
30:12
I've not ridden to push 11:6 shock
30:15
before myself so I can't comment on
30:17
whether it's as life-changing as push
30:19
says it is but I can say it looks really
30:22
damn special they're an amazing piece of
30:25
kit all made in the USA
30:27
loads of adjustability crazy patented
30:30
dual overhead valve system tom was
30:33
really really impressed with the shock
30:34
that he wrote as he should be for that
30:36
kind of price but that's a review on
30:38
single track WorldCom at the moment if
30:40
you want to read about the most
30:41
expensive shock on the market the push
30:43
11 6 jump on the website and have a look
30:45
at that review the other thing I want to
30:47
talk to you about is while is shifting
30:49
and I'd love to hear your guys opinions
30:52
and when I say guys I mean guys and
30:54
girls your opinion about the SRAM
30:58
Wireless shifting and the wireless
31:01
dropper post as well so yesterday the
31:04
news finally dropped the embargo lifted
31:07
on Schramm's new AXS wireless drivetrain
31:11
Oh
31:12
Timothy it's really nice and also with a
31:14
sour spring Oh have you got a push 11:6
31:17
shop Timothy and if so what bike do you
31:21
have that on I'd be very very interested
31:22
to know yeah so if you guys have any
31:25
feedback on the SRAM Wireless derailleur
31:28
and shifter is that is that an upgrade
31:30
you would make is that something that
31:32
interest you think yes get rid of cables
31:35
I don't want them and electronic
31:36
shifting all about it there are
31:38
definitely a lot of benefits available
31:40
there with electronic shifting but is it
31:42
worth the money is it worth perhaps the
31:44
extra complexity I don't know again I've
31:47
not ridden AXS yet perhaps it's simpler
31:50
than a cable system I don't don't know
31:52
but but it's certainly not a cheap
31:55
upgrade Oh
31:56
Timothy's saying my brother does on the
31:58
evil following nice evil with the push
32:01
11:6 shop that thing is gonna be plush I
32:04
tested that evil following about a year
32:07
and a half ago and that bike was
32:08
outrageous fun was actually the same
32:10
color as this bright metallic green and
32:12
that was a beautiful bike I can only
32:14
imagine what it would be like with a
32:15
coil shop on the back of it so yeah if
32:18
you guys got any comments about SRAM AXS
32:21
that's the new eagle wireless drivetrain
32:23
drop them in the comment section below
32:25
I'd love to hear what you think about it
32:27
whether it's an upgrade you foresee in
32:28
your future or whether it's one of those
32:31
super high-end products that we'll all
32:32
lust after but never be able to afford I
32:35
know I won't be able to afford it models
32:37
with Wireless shifting what happens on
32:39
multi-day rides with little to no chance
32:42
of recharging and what happens if it
32:44
just fails nice idea but thinking face
32:47
good question mother's I believe the
32:50
battery life on that rear derailleur is
32:52
at basically at a minimum around 20 to
32:54
25 hours of ride time but up to 40 hours
32:58
of ride time of course it depends how
33:00
much you're shifting the more you shift
33:01
the more you're going to run that
33:02
battery down but you can get replacement
33:05
trees and they're a really little 20
33:07
gram kind of clip on battery pack you
33:10
can get spares for them and so I think
33:13
if you were if you were serious enough
33:15
about multi-day stage racing being able
33:17
to buy a second battery would be would
33:19
make sense and they take one out of
33:21
charge from full flat so even if at the
33:24
end of every day of your stage race you
33:26
just plugged it in to charge it up for
33:27
an hour it would be ready to go for
33:29
another twenty to twenty-five hours to
33:31
forty hours I think is what's RAM is
33:33
saying you can get out of those
33:34
derailers so I don't think it would be
33:36
that much of a problem as to actual
33:38
problems if it stops working well that
33:41
can happen it can happen with a cable
33:43
system if the cable rips open it can
33:45
happen with di2 if the the electronic
33:48
wire gets tugged down at the derailleur
33:49
and I'm sure will be able to happen with
33:52
a wireless system somehow under strands
33:54
spent a lot of time testing and
33:55
developing that particular system so I'm
33:57
sure it's as robust as possible but it's
34:00
mountain biking stuff fails doesn't it
34:02
so in that case I don't know if you're a
34:04
multi-day stage racing you would almost
34:06
think about having a spare derailleur
34:08
wouldn't you where there was cable or or
34:10
electronic expensive but if you take
34:13
your racing seriously and you're worried
34:15
about that kind of mechanical then a
34:17
spare derailleur probably makes sense
34:18
we've got some more questions coming
34:20
through here from balls-deep MTV looking
34:26
forward to 2025 when Wireless shifting
34:28
is affordable yeah know what you mean
34:30
hey it have you nice to see that
34:32
wireless technology trickled down but I
34:36
I don't mean to be pessimistic but
34:39
Schramm's
34:40
red group set the wireless eat at red
34:42
group set so far hasn't trickled down
34:45
any lower has it it's kind of stayed at
34:47
that very very top of the top of the
34:49
range premium ultra premium level we
34:52
haven't seen force or rival kind of a
34:54
dot while of shifting yet so yeah I
34:57
don't know if it's gonna happen on the
34:59
mountain bike either to be honest given
35:01
the cost of that system I mean it's good
35:02
thirty percent more expensive than a
35:04
cable Eagle X x1 drivetrain the Eagle X
35:07
x1 AXS drivetrain I think it's going to
35:11
stay at that super premium end so sorry
35:13
that's a bit pessimistic of me but I
35:15
don't foresee it kind of trickling down
35:17
more comments coming through
35:19
yes do-do-do-do-do Timothy is saying I
35:23
like that you can use the batteries for
35:24
the dropper and the gears yes Timothy is
35:26
picked up there that's a really good
35:28
point so the new reverb dropper post
35:30
which is wireless I think that is
35:32
fantastic very expensive there and if
35:35
you've seen the pricing on those reverb
35:36
a excess dropper post but it does come
35:38
with a clip-on battery on the back of it
35:40
and it's the same battery so if you had
35:42
a Reeve a wireless reverb and you had
35:44
while a shifter a excess sheath
35:46
derailleur I should say you could unclip
35:49
the battery from the dropper and swap it
35:50
onto the derailleur so you do have that
35:52
flexibility very good point Timothy oh
35:55
and the derailleur is so neat yeah it is
35:57
the other thing about that derailleur is
35:59
it has that crash function built into it
36:01
which i think is amazing
36:02
that is a really cool technology so it's
36:04
got like a slip clutch or I forget what
36:08
they're calling it but it's a it's a
36:10
like a crash clutch so if you whack the
36:12
derailleur really hard it disengages the
36:15
electronic or the mechanical cogs inside
36:18
the derailleur it disengages them and it
36:20
allows the derailleur to move inboard
36:22
and absorb that lateral force and then
36:25
it wakes up again clips back into gear
36:27
and resets to the last gear that you in
36:29
that wisdom that's amazing and from all
36:32
reports you can basically punch the
36:34
derailleur and it will it will move
36:36
inboard and then it'll come back
36:37
outboard back to the gear it was in and
36:39
resume normal function which is pretty
36:41
crazy really really it should do because
36:44
a lot of these new generation derailers
36:46
particularly the surround arraylist
36:47
they're very big they're very chunky
36:49
they sit quite far out from the frame
36:51
very very close in harm's way if you're
36:54
riding through a really rocky terrain
36:55
where the rocks are close either side of
36:57
the trail then those derailers can be
37:00
right in the way of getting clipped by a
37:02
rock so the fact that it has that crash
37:04
functionality built into it I think is
37:05
really really cool shared life guy
37:07
alright so we've got oh we add the
37:09
Bluetooth system so shared life guys
37:12
talking about a wireless shifter and
37:14
derail that he's using at the moment my
37:16
Bluetooth system is flawless
37:17
Archer d1x - 50 hours of riding to
37:20
charge them you just put in another two
37:22
double-a batteries yea right so it's not
37:24
a rechargeable lithium-ion battery a
37:26
couple of double a's in there and is
37:27
that in the derailleur or is that in the
37:29
shoe
37:31
mint mine cost 300 pounds yeah that's
37:34
really good hey
37:35
she had life guy 700 pounds for a
37:36
dropper Schramm also stated in print
37:39
this is primarily for XC yes 700 pounds
37:43
for a drop of Post that is crazy money
37:45
but I guess if you're racing I guess if
37:47
you really want a clean look I guess if
37:49
you want that Wireless compatibility
37:52
with the shifter because they are they
37:53
will talk to each other you can have one
37:55
one shifter basically talk to the
37:57
director the drop post and the
37:59
derailleur which is pretty neat yeah
38:01
it's going to be expensive
38:03
Timothy by the way this is the first
38:04
live I watching this really interesting
38:06
well done oh thanks for thanks for the
38:08
nice comment Timothy I'm glad you're
38:09
enjoying it and as I said earlier on in
38:12
the video I'm gonna be doing these live
38:14
videos every Friday morning Australia
38:15
time or Thursday evening UK time
38:18
European time so plan is to talk about
38:22
test bikes we've got on the go test
38:24
products who we have here that I've got
38:25
on the bike and just basically to answer
38:28
any questions that you guys have got
38:29
about bikes that you're checking out or
38:32
about the test bikes and product and
38:34
questions so by all means let me know
38:36
what questions you've got and I'll do my
38:37
best to answer them I think the last
38:40
thing I wanted to talk to you guys about
38:42
is another article that's on the single
38:44
track website at the moment and that's
38:45
the trust linkage for because anyone
38:48
seen the trust linkage fork I believe
38:50
it's called the message not unlike evo
38:53
bikes where it's the following or the
38:55
calling it's the message so has anyone
38:59
seen that linkage fork and what do you
39:00
think about it is it sort of thing that
39:02
you can see the benefits and you love
39:04
the idea of of a linkage fork and you
39:08
can see the limitations of telescopic
39:10
forks Timothy says yes yeah it's I mean
39:13
it's hit the news pretty hard has been
39:14
at last month or so the hype around that
39:17
that message fork has been huge I think
39:20
it looks really cool really wacky I love
39:23
it it's something different
39:24
I can see the benefits in the design but
39:26
I really love to get a ride of it myself
39:28
we have one on the test at the moment
39:30
and if you want to know more about it
39:33
Hannah's done a live unboxing video
39:35
we've also got a first look at the forks
39:37
oh loads of photos loads of detail about
39:39
how to set it up and
39:41
how it's meant to write Timothy it looks
39:43
pretty neat and I want to try one and it
39:45
to see if it as plush as people say yeah
39:48
I know and the people have ridden her
39:49
have been really impressed I have read
39:51
some slightly conflicting reviews online
39:54
and these are all early ride reviews one
39:57
of our contributors one of our local
39:59
testers David Hayward is on the fork
40:00
right now and I believe in my email
40:03
INBOX is a first ride review so I'll go
40:06
through that today and hopefully get it
40:07
up as soon as possible because I'd love
40:09
to know what how it rides and I'm sure
40:10
you guys would be interested to know how
40:12
that trust message fork rides even if it
40:15
rides really well is it worth two
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thousand seven hundred US dollars yes
40:20
nearly three thousand American dollars
40:23
for that fork that is incredibly
40:26
expensive we've just been talking about
40:27
SRAM AXS Wireless and a 700-pound
40:30
dropper post we've just been talking
40:31
about push eleven six coil shock which
40:33
is nearly thirteen hundred pounds and
40:35
now we're talking about the trust
40:36
message fork which is nearly three
40:38
thousand American dollars
40:40
so your crossing crossing world's
40:42
currencies at the moment but you get the
40:43
idea all these things are bloody
40:45
expensive shared life guy no Schramm's
40:48
website says you can have a left and
40:49
right lever you can't run the dropper
40:52
from the shifter paddle that's
40:53
interesting because I did read on one of
40:56
my industry peers articles yesterday
40:59
that you could have one shifter set up
41:01
to operate the reverb and the rear
41:04
derailleur so work thanks to the pickup
41:06
shed life guy I'll have a look at that
41:07
looking look I'll have a look into that
41:09
to find out if that's the case but if
41:12
you've read that on the SRAM website
41:14
that the one shifter can only operate a
41:16
derailleur or only operate a drop Posehn
41:18
I'm sure you're right I'm sure strands
41:20
right but there you go
41:22
interesting interesting stuff Rhys
41:25
Powell
41:26
oh hello Reese my my old neighbor from
41:28
Tom burdens tuned in live welcome to the
41:30
live Q&A welcome to Australia or well a
41:34
shed could be anywhere really love the
41:36
idea looks like looks like something
41:38
from a different planet yeah we're
41:40
talking about the trust message linkage
41:42
fork that thing is bananas isn't it
41:44
I think the looks are going to be a very
41:46
polarizing I think some people are just
41:48
like it doesn't matter how good that
41:50
fork is I'm not riding it looks
41:51
and other people are kind of like hey
41:53
that's cool that's different so yeah
41:55
definitely a polarizing kind of fork
41:57
there Timothy yeah you can customize it
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customize it however you want for the
42:02
paddles normally so we're talking about
42:04
SRAM AXS system so we've got some
42:05
conflicting information here about the
42:08
new AXS Wireless shifter I'm sure we can
42:11
ask canna who did check out that system
42:13
earlier this week and wrote the article
42:15
if you want to know more about it
42:16
there's an article on our website at the
42:18
moment on singletrack WorldCom about
42:20
Schramm's new Wireless Eagle drivetrain
42:22
I'm calling eat at Eagle because that's
42:25
what we called it I don't know six
42:27
months ago when we ran a spy story about
42:28
it but it's called ixs and pronounced
42:31
axis that's how they're they're going
42:33
for a while or shifting while atropos
42:35
pretty cool and so yeah so those are
42:38
kind of the big news stories hitting the
42:40
website this week and yeah we've just
42:43
been chatting them out this giant trance
42:45
29a test bike I have more ride
42:49
information coming on this soon did you
42:51
guys see the canyon video that I did
42:53
yesterday or published yesterday and
42:55
that was on the canyon iran CF test bike
42:58
I've been riding for the past couple of
42:59
months I just did an on board ride
43:02
review type thing and basically it's me
43:05
with GoPro on the chest mount and a
43:06
lapel microphone kind of talking about
43:09
the bike whilst I'm riding it I nearly
43:11
crashed my brains out so that was pretty
43:13
exciting I'm really glad I caught that
43:14
on camera but I'm hoping to do a similar
43:16
video for this bike here so stay tuned
43:19
for that one shed life guide the kicker
43:21
is the app that states dropper left side
43:24
only so shared life guys going through
43:25
the manuals on the SRAM website at the
43:27
most AXS so I reckon I reckon he's got
43:30
the hot information right there Rhys
43:33
Powell just like when Cannondale did the
43:34
lefty something just didn't seem right
43:36
yeah totally the lefty is still like
43:38
mind-blowing isn't it especially that
43:40
left eh oh the the single crown version
43:43
lefty doesn't even have the dual crown
43:45
anymore that thing looks while it looks
43:47
like it shouldn't work and it should
43:48
fold in half but it doesn't Timothy not
43:51
yet I will look after school tomorrow
43:52
alright so these guys are we're debating
43:54
about the SRAM AXS wireless system so
43:57
we're trying to work out whether you
43:59
need both paddles to run both the rear
44:01
derailleur and a drop post or if you can
44:04
use one shifter pad
44:05
to operate the dropper and the shifter
44:07
and the rear derailleur personally I
44:09
think I'd rather have two paddles anyway
44:11
I'd rather my left thumb and the left
44:14
side of my brain or is it right side of
44:16
the brain that controls your left side
44:17
of your body anyway I'd rather the left
44:21
side controlling the dropper post on my
44:23
right hand controlling the the reader
44:26
ayla
44:26
oh you're talking about the canyon video
44:28
oh cool yeah yeah check it out if you
44:31
get the chance as I said I nearly
44:33
crashed my brains out that was pretty
44:34
hilarious but it's also a bit of an
44:36
opportunity to show you what I was
44:37
testing on that bike some of the local
44:39
trails that I got a bike onto for
44:41
testing and yeah just a bit of fun
44:43
really so yeah let me know what you
44:45
think of that video I'm hopefully doing
44:47
one on this bike very soon and next week
44:50
when we do this live video I will have
44:51
another test bike for you guys so we'll
44:53
do a live Q&A on an undisclosed test
44:56
bike it's fairly new not brand new but
44:59
it's fairly new and I'm kind of excited
45:01
about it so yeah get tuned for get stay
45:05
tuned for next Friday's live Q&A video
45:08
fresh good standard which I'll be doing
45:10
every week on Friday morning Australian
45:12
time or Thursday evening UK time right
45:17
thunderstruck coach is just pointing out
45:18
$800 for the dropper and 350 Street
45:21
price for the new version of the Magura
45:23
Byron oh good question I don't know I've
45:27
not used the second generation viral
45:28
I've used the first generation via on
45:30
and it was good
45:32
I love the wireless design anything that
45:34
gets rid of internal cables in a frame
45:36
fantastic that via on the problem I had
45:39
though was with the lag time so when you
45:41
hit the button and the lag time between
45:44
hitting the button and the valve opening
45:47
inside the dropper and allowing it to
45:48
compress or extend it was quite long and
45:51
that took a bit of getting used to once
45:52
you get used to it
45:53
so thunderstruck coach second gen is
45:55
much quicker yeah that's right we have
45:57
one of the guys tested
45:58
I think the review went up on the
45:59
website a good few months ago he put
46:01
like I don't know nine months of testing
46:03
into that dropper and it was faultless
46:04
and it's Magura so German brands so
46:07
there's a lot of emphasis on engineering
46:09
and durability and it is much much
46:11
faster it's there is still a lag time
46:13
there as to the new reverb ax
46:16
drop a post I have no idea how fast or
46:18
how slow the lag is between hitting the
46:20
button and the drop post opening and
46:23
allowing movement so but that would be a
46:25
really interesting comparison we'd love
46:27
to know what the the lag time is between
46:30
those two droppers but yeah good point
46:32
there that you can get the murder of
46:34
iron for a lot cheaper that you can get
46:35
that currently that AXS but I think SRAM
46:38
and RockShox
46:39
is going for the whole integrated system
46:41
and I kind of understand that if you've
46:43
got both the same paddle on the right
46:46
and the left very similar shape you know
46:48
it's it just tends to be a little bit
46:50
easier on the brain I know that sounds
46:52
like a really small thing but when
46:54
you've got to drop a post lever that
46:56
feels like a front shifter it just tends
46:59
to be a bit more ergonomic and a bit
47:00
easy to hit a bit more intuitive to hit
47:02
I find anyway so I know what Stram's
47:04
going for there it's that whole system
47:06
integration you can use the one app to
47:09
control your drop post and your shifter
47:10
and derailleur which is pretty cool and
47:12
that's is that that in 2019 we're
47:14
talking about an app on your phone and
47:15
controlling the shifting on your
47:17
mountain bike that is just it's worth
47:18
stepping back and just thinking that is
47:20
probably bananas hey but anyway on that
47:24
note I'm gonna finish up this live video
47:26
I really want to say thank you for
47:27
everyone who's tuned in line everyone
47:29
who's asked questions who's commented
47:31
through the video thank you very much
47:34
for tuning in I'm going to be doing this
47:35
video every Friday every Friday morning
47:38
Australian time every Thursday UK time
47:40
so by all means tune in for next week
47:42
I'm going to be talking at a brand-new
47:44
test bike so we're gonna have loads of
47:46
detail loads of information about a new
47:48
test bike so make sure you tune in next
47:51
week for fresh boots Down Under
47:53
I'm gonna head away and hopefully get
47:55
some writing done this week and I hope
47:56
you've got some riding plans wherever
47:58
you are in the world and the weather is
48:00
shining on you wherever that might be if
48:02
it's not then I hope you get a good feed
48:04
and some beers in and catch up with some
48:07
mates over the weekend shed life guy
48:10
I'll be back I certainly hope so you've
48:11
been fantastic I love the input from all
48:14
of you guys this is really cool makes it
48:16
more interesting for me as well when I
48:17
get to learn new things in these videos
48:19
and thunderstruck coach keep out the
48:21
videos and take care of my daughter
48:22
who's in school in Melbourne are
48:24
fantastic all right well best of luck to
48:26
her I guess you'll be just starting the
48:29
school year
48:30
roundabouts now all the kids are back at
48:32
school Reese power gives the thumbs up
48:34
try and catch up again next week thanks
48:35
Reese my old neighbor from top Aden
48:37
thanks for tuning in say hello to the
48:39
family and hope amis feeling better as
48:41
well
48:41
lindholm happy trails indeed thanks guys
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