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We take a look at e*thirteen's clever conversion kit, to take your 11-speed up to a 12-speed.
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hello this is chips Ron singletrack
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magazine here it's fresh curds Friday
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live and this is a nice cup of tea we've
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got here today the F EE - TPA 100 from
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ether team this is ether teens 11 - 12
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speed complete conversion kit the idea
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is that you can take your 11 speed SRAM
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group set and with the contents of this
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box you can upgrade your bike to 12
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speed without needing to buy neutralism
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shifters and so we all comes in a sneak
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little box we're going to have a look
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and see what's in it so firstly a
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cassette comes with a big warning
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sticker that says stopped if you've got
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a hope cassette because you'll need a
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shim and we'll send you one but this is
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a 12 speed a 13 cassette TRS plus
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cassette and it attaches to a hope sorry
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a an XD driver so Schramm's
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small bodied driver a 13 already makes
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11 speed versions of the ease and they
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thought hey let's let's just make 12
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speed and the trouble is then you've you
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need a 12 speeder a leo you need a toss
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pitch shifter but let's look in the box
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so inside this fancy box we have an
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assortment of bits and pieces so we've
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got some pockets and things we've got
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some allen keys and a couple of drivers
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and we'll come back to that one in a
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minute we've got a couple of washes and
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plates for jockey wheels we've got some
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very appealing dark blue grease
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a chain that a yvn chain saw speed chain
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and the cable so that should be
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everything you need to convert it now
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there aren't any instructions in the box
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because they 13 has done a pretty good
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video explaining how to do it and I will
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try to explain roughly what happens so
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attaching your cassette should be no
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problem that fits onto an XD driver
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ether teen has it goes on in a couple of
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pieces and you bolted on but it's not
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too hard a thing I will I'll go through
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the the ratios in the sack you also get
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the idea is you take your shifter apart
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and you take your rear derailleur apart
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as well not stabbed himself in the hand
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this is the claw which so the idea is
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that you take your shifter body apart
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and this is what I thought was a
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replacement
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sprocket it's not it's a it's for
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keeping the the chains keeping the bolts
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and so you shifted doesn't fall to
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pieces you get two different ratchets
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here once with xx one there's a
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different procedure for xx one compared
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to the other ones
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it's compatible with GX x 1x 0 1 and X
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x1 same main bolt but you swap that if
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you've got an X x1 shifter so this is
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contained deep deep into the shifter you
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have to do some pretty severe
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disassembly but if you're working a nice
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clean environment and not in a hurry it
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should be possible to do in I do that
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for now on a quiet Sunday evening you
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get these to derail espaces jockey wheel
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spaces that's to space the the jockey
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wheel so they'll reach the far ends of
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the ether teen 12 speaks at its so it's
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dished so works extend over the spokes
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so it's quite wide wide thing but it'll
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work with a regular surround irelia it
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just needs these new spaces and you've
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got an assortment of allen keys so all
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the allen keys you need to do the job
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you need to fly your own Torx bit no no
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they supply stalks bit and there is also
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a square driver which is for owners of
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xx1 cassettes because you need a special
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square driver it's the sort of the likes
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of you and me disassembling our xx1
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shifter so they provide all of those so
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you've got all the tools you have this
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which is a holder for the bolts so that
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your shifter doesn't blow itself to
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pieces and you have to take there I'm
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taking the parameters apart are always a
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bit scary when you change the cable
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because you take the top cover off and
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has the spring and you're concerned it's
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all going to go flinging yourself around
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the room but certainly in in a 13th
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video Conor that does a very good job of
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not throwing things around the room and
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the idea is you take everything apart
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and you get to this point on the SRAM
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chip dur and you replace their sprockets
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with yours and so instead of eleven
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clicks you get twelve and you get twelve
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sprockets is it worth it that's entirely
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up to you and whether you want to go all
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twelve feet or not the irregular ether
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tink set costs about
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250 pounds 260 euros I've only got the
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euro process to have and this kit
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this kit by comparison is an extra 50
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euro so it's 299 euros and it's
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everything you need you provide
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obviously the wheel the shifter and
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literally a difference in ratios hello
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sorry part two we had a slight technical
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there issue there so I thought I'd take
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this apart just to recap this is e 13s
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clever upgrade system for people who
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already have 11 speeds RAM systems you
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can make it 12 speed probably best doing
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if you were planning on replacing except
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anyway because a big chunk of the
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expenses is in this - normally 260 euros
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for a cassette from a 13 it's worth
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revisiting this cassette discs is very
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lovely so this is all machined very nice
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and then there's a second bit here this
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attempt is nice blue grease everywhere
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this attaches around the SD driver body
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XD driver body snugs up there this then
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attaches and there you go we've got a
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complete cassette so there's no tiny
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little sprockets falling over the place
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so you've got 11 speed surround system
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you're going to upgrade it to tall speed
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so you buy one of these and it comes in
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a neat little box and yet it will speak
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chain you've got a new cable and you get
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all of these things why would you want
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to do that because you want you're going
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to be one better answer really there is
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a slight difference in ratios they both
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start at the same point that both finish
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at the same point the 11 and 12
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cassettes both start at 9 which is the
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thing that a 13 does that surround
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doesn't
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which means you can use a much smaller
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sprocket upfront small chain ring
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because you've got top gear of whatever
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it is that's 2 by 9 which is quite
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dramatic difference over a 10 so the top
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end is a 46 which is as low as Shimano
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currently goes and the ratios if for
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anyone who's interested 11 speed is 9 10
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12 14 17 20 24 28 33 39 46 12 speed is
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also 9 10 12 14 and then it goes 16 18
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21 and then there's the same 24 28 33 39
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46 so you've got a slight slightly
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better range and that in the mid-range
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for your extra one sprocket so that's
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where it is somewhere in there about
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there whether people desperately need
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that tall speed my to know it's it's one
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better isn't it right and involves
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taking apart your shifter digging down
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to get to that bit and replacing it
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without everything falling apart as I
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said the the instructional video the 13
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does is pretty good and should give you
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everything you need to be able to do it
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slightly different procedure if you're
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on xx 1 compared to XO 1 X 1 GX but not
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all that different when work with NX
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because that X uses a Shimano regular
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cassette body so only for surround
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bodies will work with hopes cassette
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body but you do need an extra shim
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that's a 13 will happily send you Wow
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well any questions let me see if we've
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got any questions on the thing yes thank
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I'm glad you like the shirts that's
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great hello from people so no I guess
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not like oh it's out now ether teens I'm
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assuming they've got a catch
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named Jeff Blair doesn't see the point
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will it wear the chain even quicker not
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really in 13 reckons that there that
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chain angle is better than Shimano's
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Eagle I guess because it's it's fitting
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sprockets into the into the same space
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so they they reckon won't wear any any
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quicker than 11 speed already does and
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yes point goes up to 12 so I'd say it
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all comes in this neat little box we'll
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be fitting it to a test point shortly
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and we'll let you know how we get on
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especially how we get on with the
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installation which is probably the
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scariest bit of the whole thing the
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actual riding it there's going to be the
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easy part so wishes luck will then be
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trying to fit these bits and sign the
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ship through and litter a layer and
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using these things and stuff so thanks
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for joining us it's been tips on
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Facebook live and on the other channel
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on a Friday and now it's time for the
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traditional drink Barrett desk Friday so
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enjoy your weekend and we will see you
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next week
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