In a move that will surprise literally nobody, Shimano has just revealed its brand new Deore XT M8100 groupset - almost exactly one year after XTR M9100 was launched. This is standard protocol for the Japanese brand, which typically rolls out its new designs at the top, and then trickles them down each year after, starting with XTR, then Deore XT, then SLX, Deore and so on.
Following in the footsteps of XTR M9100, XT bumps up a gear to 12-speed, with both 1x12 and 2x12 drivetrain options available. The Hollowtech II cranks now utilise direct-mount chainrings, with single and double options available.
Depending on the range you're after, there will be two 12-speed cassettes built around the new Micro Spline freehub spline; a 10-45t and a 10-51t ratio. While both cassettes will work in a 1x12 drivetrain, only the smaller 10-45t block is compatible with a 2x12 setup.
There are 2-piston and 4-piston hydraulic disc brakes, which share a brand new lever design that draws on the same angled profile as the current XTR model. The 2-piston calliper carries over from the M8000 brake, but the 4-piston calliper is all new.
In total, the Deore XT groupset adds around 365g in weight over the pricier XTR version.
The price varies depending on what options you choose, but a 1x12 drivetrain will start at £535, which puts it at nearly half the price of an equivalent XTR 1x12 drivetrain at £1,035.
For all the technical details, weights and prices, check out the article right here: https://singletrackworld.com/2019/05/new-shimano-deore-xt-m8100-slx-m7100-12-speed-groupset-drivetrain-cassette-brakes/
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hello everybody it's will hear from
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single track magazine and single track
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WorldCom and we've got some very
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exciting news for you guys today because
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Shimano is releasing not one for two
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brand new group sets that's right
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we have XTR 12-speed last year and this
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year we're getting both XT and SLX
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twelve speeds of Shimano's trickling
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down that technology from the XT are
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level down to both xt and SL x at the
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same time now we're here in Girona in
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Spain just a little bit outside of
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Barcelona and we've been riding the new
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group sets for the past three days so I
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wanted to give you my first ride
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impressions of the new group set we've
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got brand new gearing brand new brakes
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we've also got new hubs on the XT + SL X
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group set right now I'm going to take
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you through the new do your XT m80 100
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groups F so this is of course 12 speed
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that's the big headline used with new XT
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I'm gonna run you through each of the
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components on this bike here I've been
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riding now in terms of gearing xt will
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offer both one by twelve and two by
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twelve options
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unfortunately there were no to buy drive
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trains here at the launch for us to try
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out so we'll have to use our imagination
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on those but I'll show you this one by
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12 setup I'll be riding on here so
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starting off with the cranks these are
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based quite heavily on the XT our cranks
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they are hollow aluminium crank arms
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using the hollow tech to steel 24 mil
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spindle no changes there to the BB
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standard that's exactly how a mono has
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been running for a few years now here
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we're running the single chainring this
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has a narrow wide tooth profile which I
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believe Shimano calls dynamic chain
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engagement + or something like that and
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the whole idea of this narrow wide tooth
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profile is that the chain interlocks
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with that profile
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you've got narrow and wide openings on
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the chain and it hugs it nice and
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tightly so as you can see here no need
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for a chain guide to stop the chain from
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bouncing off the chain ring the chain
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rings themselves these are going to a
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direct mount standard so no longer on
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previous x2 you would have had a four
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ball pattern instead now there is a
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spline spider on the back of this crank
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arm and the chain ring slides on and a
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lock ring tightens it down very very
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neat very tidy and easy to change chain
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ring sizes chain ring sizes speaking of
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they'll run from 28 to 36 tooth in two
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teeth increments moving to the back here
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and this huge xt cassette this is the 10
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251 there will be 2% options with the
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new xt group set there'll be 10 to 45
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and this one 10 to 50 one we think this
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big 10 251 is going to be the most
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popular option this is obviously the
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Eagle beating range that Shimano has 10
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251 on there with the 1 by chain ring
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setup there will be 2 rear derailleurs
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to go with this new xt group set 1 is
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designed for the 1 by 12 setup and the
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other derailleur is designed for the 2
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by 12 set up so two different derailers
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structurally very similar slightly
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different geometry and the way that they
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shift over the cassette we have of
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course the shadow plus friction clutch
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here and you can actually turn this off
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and on you would turn it off if you were
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working on the bike or you need to get
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the rear wheel out of the bike that
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disengages the clutch and then we can
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flick that back on again and that adds
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tension to the chain and again this is
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all about reducing chain slack on the
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drivetrain keep it quiet
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stop that chain from bouncing off the
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single ring on the front what's worth
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noting on the xt derailleur is we've got
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13 mm them and that's an upgrade over
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the SLX derailleur which uses bushings
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in the jockey wheels the other
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difference is this little bolt here and
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this allows you to tighten or loosen the
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clutch tension in the derailleur and
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that's a little external bolt there you
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can still do that on SLX derailers and
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you have to take the cover off so it's
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quite neat that you've got this little
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bolt in there to be able to do that here
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so we'll go up to the handlebar where we
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have a single
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right hand shifter now this is the D or
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xt trigger shifter functionally and
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aesthetically very similar to xt our we
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have really punchy up and down shift
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this is a really positive click here you
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can really feel that feedback through
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the shifter as you're punching up and
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down gears we've got a little rubber pad
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here on the big thumb paddle but on the
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up shift we don't it's still textured
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you can see it's got nice little grooves
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there but that's just a plastic paddle
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whereas xti you also get a little rubber
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paddle there so very neat indeed we have
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a double up shift when you're going to a
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harder gear you can dump two at one time
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which is quite useful with a one buy
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drivetrain with the big paddle here you
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can downshift up to four gears in one
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hit and that's compared to SL X which
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you can only downshift three years at a
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time with this guy you can dump four
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gears in the one throw providing you
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have a nice long thumb minor almost gets
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there you've got a bit of a bit of a
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long throw to get there but in
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particular that double up shift is
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really really nice of course we've got
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the new ice spec evie mount so there's a
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little bracket here where the shifter
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bolts onto the same clamp as the brake
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lever and this tidies up the cockpit we
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only have one clamp here instead of two
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very very neat gives you about 14
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millimetres of lateral adjustment side
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to side so you can bring this shifter
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closer to the grip or further away from
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the grip depending on where your hand is
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at and where you want that those paddles
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are set up for your thumb and that
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brings us to the brake lever so we'll
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have a look at this new XT brake lever
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again very similar to XT are we have the
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new mid mount clamps so instead of the
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clamp being on the end of the brake it's
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now in the middle and you can see here
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there's a small brace on the hand of art
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and that means when you engage the brake
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the whole assembly is actually braced
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against the handlebar and this helps to
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increase stiffness gives it a really
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positive feel these brakes feel
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fantastic by the way very very nice the
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new XT brakes will be available in two
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different options this is the race
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version it uses a two piston caliper and
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this caliper down here that you can see
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there it's actually exactly the same as
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the previous XT disc brake the m8
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thousand so the caliper itself
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structurally doesn't change that's
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exactly the same but up at the lever end
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obviously
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this is all brand-new now the lever is
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the same whether you go for the race the
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two piston brake or the enduro the four
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piston brake but the lever itself is
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exactly the same we've got tool free
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reach adjustment here so you've got a
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little dial for adjusting the the reach
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of the brake lever which is really nice
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really easy to use there's the free
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stroke adjuster that's a little bolt in
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here used with a Philips head
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screwdriver
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doesn't seem to do a whole lot that's
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pretty standard for a for the other
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exterior and Shimano brakes aren't
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tested with this particular doohickey
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but yes so you can get this break in
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that two piston or the focused and
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option now while we're down here we'll
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have a look at the new XT hubs not a
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whole lot different on the front hub
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here
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it's a forged alloy hub shell it'll be
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available with various configurations
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various axle widths and and spoke
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drillings and so on we've got of course
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cup and cone bearings which are
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serviceable and Shimano will be selling
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spare bearing kits and spare axle kits
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for these out back we have a new rear
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hub design and this is all about being
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able to fit this huge ten to fifty one
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percent so inside we have the micro
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spline free hub design and it's a
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smaller diameter than the previous
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Shimano hg free hub so to run this big
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cassette if you want to go 12 speed you
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have to get a micro spine rear hub so
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we'll give you a bit of a listen to the
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noise here the way the mechanism works
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inside the rear hub is more like a Chris
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King or a DT Swiss hub its its a ratchet
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type system a kind of clutch mechanism
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rather than a traditional spring and
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Palfrey hub so the sound is quite
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similar to those DT Swiss Chris king
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that kind of hub and the engagement is
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around seven degrees so it's quite fast
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so overall my first impressions of the
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Shimano XT group set really really
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positive I actually came off the XT our
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groups at last week I was out riding the
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pivot Mach 4 SL and that particular bike
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came setup with a full XT R 1 by 12
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drivetrain and XDR race brake so it's
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been a really good comparison to see how
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XT compares in terms of shift quality
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the two are very very similar that nice
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punchy trigger shifter up there
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has got a very similar feel to the xpr
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shifter perhaps it's ever so slightly
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less smooth than the XT our cassette and
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chain but the difference is very very
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minor in terms of weight between the two
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group sets Shimano says like for like
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the xt group set is around 365 grams
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heavier than an XT R group set so there
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is a bit of weight there and most of
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that comes down to materials
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particularly with the cassette there's
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no titanium in this cassette where there
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is in the XT our version and a bit of
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weight difference in the cranks as well
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so mostly in materials difference in
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terms of performance and functionality
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very very similar I'm really liking the
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new brakes these new M 8100 brake levers
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combined with the previous 2 piston
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calipers the braking is a little
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smoother a little bit more modulation
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there early on in the stroke it's still
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good very good power that's said I think
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the 4 piston brake is the one to go for
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that's got a little bit more power they
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say about 22 percent more power when you
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go from the 2 piston to the four piston
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calipers but the main difference for me
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was the improved modulation that was
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something that I noticed really good
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fine-tuned control on those four piston
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brakes so I think in terms of that that
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XT level if you're not worried about a
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few grams and I think it's maybe 30 or
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40 grams more when you go to the four
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piston caliber
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I think the improvement in power and
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braking feel is going to be worth it for
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a lot of trail riders so yeah very
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impressed with the braking on this new
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XT M 8100 group set and very impressed
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with the drivetrain as well no chain
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drops very smooth Drive feel no issues
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there at all with the chain and in terms
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of the hyper glide + shifting on the
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rear cassette absolutely incredible how
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badly you can treat the the rear
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cassette on this bike you can mash the
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gears out of the saddle under power in a
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way that you really shouldn't and it
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just responds it just shifts super super
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fast there's really very little lag when
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you're shifting even when you're out of
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the saddle hammering on the pedals so
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you can kind of forget everything you
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were taught when you first jumped on a
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mountain bike about backing off on the
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the pedal pressure when you're trying to
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change gears with this hyper glide +
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cassette you can be as horrible as you
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want to the gears and they just seem to
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take it and shift every single time so I
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think that's a real standout
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feature of this new 12 speed XT cassette
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which is mirrors the performance of xt
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are very very closely what you want to
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do now is stick around for my SLX video
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i've been writing the SL x group set and
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i've got plenty to talk about in terms
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of the performance of that group set as
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8100 group set and I'll see you guys
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next time
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