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Hannah was on the radio this week. On Wake Up To Money on BBC 5Live no less. Why? It was all to do with how to watch cycling on the tellybox in light of how silly expensive it is now.
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hello welcome to the single track World
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podcast I'm Hannah Dobson I'm managing
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editor and who's here I I'm Benji how
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Tech editor short for technical I'm okay
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now then big news this week I've been on
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the BBC which is because there was big
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cycling news that was so big it crossed
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over into the mainstream you were
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invited onto the BBC you weren just
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stormed to the sford studios no no like
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a protester I was invited on to Radio 5
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live wake up to money wouldn't that be
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nice to wake up to money uh to to talk
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about the Warner Brothers Discovery uh
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pay Walling and price hike of Tor of
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France and uh mountain biking so all
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cycling is going to be on the uh TNT
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Euros sport is no more that Euros sport
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is no more from I think the end end of
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this month end of
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February um so yeah and it's gone up
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from about six or seven quid to 31 quid
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a month that's my a gast face on the
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radio OMG
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yeah so I think the BBC picked up on it
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because
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the in BBC sport desk I would imagine I
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don't know but I think it was the thing
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that the tour France wasn't going to be
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on the free live feed anymore and I
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guess that sort of live feed to of
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France is a bit of that summer feel
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summer Vibe thing it like is it summer
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if you don't have that on or is it
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summer if you can't listen to test match
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cricket on the radio like well yeah it's
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it's sort of tradition right and so I
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think that's what got their
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attention but at 10: to 6 in the morning
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for which I had to get up very very
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early it'll be on th play now won't it
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it is uh on BBC sounds app sorry yes
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yeah one thank God there was no vision
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because I did have my pajama bottoms on
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um were you out of bed I was yeah my
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teenage daughter when I told her I was
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going to be doing this interview and
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told her what in the morning it was she
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said are you going to do it from
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bed knowing that I'm not a morning
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person but yeah it's not morning though
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is it that's just like Dawn middle of
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the night the only reason to get up then
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is to get a flight I think yeah yeah so
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true
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anyway I think this s thought I was
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going to talk about who else was on it
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nobody nobody just me just me excellent
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and uh so I sort of set them straight on
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the fact that it's not just the fact
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that to of France isn't going to be pay
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world it's that Warner Brothers is
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controlling everything when it comes to
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mountain biking all the like the format
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of the racing the rules of the racing so
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they're charging more for people to
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watch it they're charging more for teams
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to enter it yep uh they're asking Racers
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to do more risk More For Less TV
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coverage in a lot of instances and
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that's not translating
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into an increase in the prize money like
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the the so I didn't realize that the
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it's it's the overall series prize money
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is provided by Warner Brothers all right
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okay the
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individual race prize money okay is
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provided by the local race organizer all
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okay and the UCI sets some minimums for
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that uh but the prize pot for the
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overall has not
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increased since
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2018 so okay apparently you know more
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money is going in 10,000 does it 10,000
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overall is for the overall win yep yeah
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3,000 and a bit for and then it drops
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off yeah it drops off pretty rapidly as
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well and Juro isn't even that is it no
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that's like, 1500 if you win that so so
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yeah I think they were a little bit
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surprised on the BBC to discover that
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they were uh in control of everything
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there at War Brothers um and I said you
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know we're not like Formula 1 which is
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what keeps being cited no more like
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FIFA I don't know like we're not even
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like that though we don't have big
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external sponsors right you know we
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don't have loads of money a wash in the
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industry either to to sponsor stuff so
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yeah as far as Road cycling does doesn't
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it isn't it car 4 and all that road
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cycling does have more of those external
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sponsors um but uh yeah it's kind of
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interesting that grout Belgian grout
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specialist something like that yeah it's
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just French and Belgian business people
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who want to keep things going isn't it
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like lotto sudal and yeah maybe it's the
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other one
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that's BQ in you recognize Roadie
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jerseys on display oh that's
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grout that's pork that's what they do
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mapy which is
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blood yeah so that's the one you buy is
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it to shows the power of
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likeor I'll buy that because I've seen
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it on a bicycle at one point yeah so I
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think that the ASO toour of France thing
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is a slightly different thing because
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that's they've sold the rice an ITV for
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three was it ITV four or and it will be
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this year but next year it'll be
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completely payall right and um yeah but
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that's them selling the rights to it
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rather than the entire organization of
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the race which is what we've got with
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mountain biking so yeah and so they were
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like oh but if people don't watch the
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tour to France they won't ride bikes
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will they on the BBC I was like nah I
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think that access and trails and
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infrastructure has more to do with
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people riding bikes than whether you see
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people cruising around France probably
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go on holiday to France and nice places
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in France that you see it's a good I
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think that's French um tourist board
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right toward France don't they yeah it's
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showcase for uh France we stop in it so
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like will ASO right still get that money
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from all those stage hosts because you
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know if you're a little village in
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France and it's not going to be
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broadcast live and you're going to get
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it all distilled down to the one hour
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thing like will you will you pay all
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that money we ever know the viewing
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numbers for Mountain back World Cup
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don't know they'll proba why don't we
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know that they'll probably tell us that
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it was the greatest year ever we ever
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know on their own metric that we can't
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see it's better better and bigger than
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ever we did run a story on this the
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other week about it being the greatest
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year ever and apparently I was too dead
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pan and sarcastic quite quietly
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sarcastic because everyone was like oh
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this is terrible and what's this press
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release and I was like yeah I was being
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completely sarcastic and nobody realiz
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some emojis in
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there which is a shame because in my it
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is the best area of racing we've ever
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had yeah that super exciting oh great
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now I don't think even I'm going to
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watch it I don't think they'll give us a
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free pass for a start after watch I even
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ask year I was all right $66.99 but I'm
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not doing
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31 quid a month or Sumit yeah I'm off
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the Christmas card I say that but I
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might have a weak moment when I've fed
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up and not knowing what's going on and
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I've had a few and this is this is how
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it works isn't it I'll probably PayPal
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30 quid because it's so easy and they go
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oh god what have I done that for you
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done you get that's a pick a month where
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there's a few races that's a month where
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there's no racing is there like August
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is like not doesn't happen so anyway I
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think Red Bull are quite happy oh yeah
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yeah I imagine so um and be interesed to
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see CU moners sponsor in a whole North
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American League this year so presume be
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some sort of coverage out of that b for
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would big interest if Fort William do
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any coverage I know it's they they're on
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their own now but it' be nice if they
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did Summit because they prize money has
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gone up there it's more than winning a
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World Cup it'll be quite a good uh prize
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pot there cool which is nice so well
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other things that happened this week
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there was quite a lot of weather at the
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weekend oh yeah and Northern Ireland
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decided to have it all well they they
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had quite a lot yeah and then the winds
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all swept through into Scotland yeah
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which was pretty wild um but here the
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forecast on my phone on the BBC app for
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Saturday was all like glorious sunshine
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and I sprung out of bed
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uncharacteristically on Saturday morning
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all set for like I'm going to go and
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Ride by
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and then I looked outside and there was
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just sleep oh and then there was hail oh
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yeah and then there was rain and then
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there was more sleep and then there was
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a bit of snow there was definitely not
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bright Sunshine it all went wrong so but
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you have previously reviewed a weather
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app that you think on my phone phone app
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you don't think it's available on tinet
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on a web page hyper local it's called
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and what's the good about hyper
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local um
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what's the
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word it it gives you a very good overall
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day and week display there going to be
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any rain so you can see on if there any
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rain on any day then you can click on
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that day and you can see where the rain
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is see what likelihood of the rain is
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and should that likelihood happen how
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many
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Millet rain it will be so a granular
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analysis of precipitation yeah and it's
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very accurate particularly if you're
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like looking on a Thursday about what
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will be happen happening on the Sun
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Sunday they get it right pretty much
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guarantee it yeah there's a nice drag
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the slider radar thing oh I can guess
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the trends myself that's coming over
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there okay nice I think it's free there
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is a pay version to get rid of popups
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and probably get some you can save more
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locations and things but Suck It And See
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right for zero Pence so so around us
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certainly you think it's nicely accurate
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m
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than yeah quite a lot of trees down
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though did uh we did have a bit of some
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fallen tree action and um lower back
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pain as a
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result they good yeah I think the bark
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blew off my palm tree that was it must
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be quite a Hardy palm tree you've got
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there oh I've actually chopped it off
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cuz it was so growing so prolifically it
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was getting too big yeah does it stink I
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remember my parents chopped down some
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kind of palm tree and it was rany
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I have inside like haven't really
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noticed but it is a bit weird it is a
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bit like some sort of alien
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thing yeah it's kind of it's like when
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you it's something sweet that's gone
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off created a new
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drink work good yeah hyper local hyper
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local okay and then on to other products
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we're thinking about products were today
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for future magazines and we were talking
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about multi-tools yeah she has got us
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into like a whole Wormhole of what makes
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a good
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multi-tool yes go on well I have two
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approaches to multitools I have one that
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is I'm not going very far but I should
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have a little tool with me not for
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emergencies really but more like if my
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seat's too low or my brakes to the funny
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angle and that's guess a specialized one
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it's got like six tools on it that's
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what I take most of the time but if I'm
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going somewhere where I'm bit scared
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about not being able to get
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back a that means on foot um I take
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something that will do everything in a
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little
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handbag thing yeah but I think it's a
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Crank Brothers
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SOS thing in a tube which I thought was
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a bit ridicul I realized oh it's I'm
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going to get rusty or loose which is my
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main bug bear is tools that go rly loose
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and then never the same oh yeah ones
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that you open and they and on the on the
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tin it says that they do a million
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things but you open it and you basically
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get this like explosion of of metal that
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falls all over the trail on 8 mil hats
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and chain splitter things that's like
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meano things that yeah things you can't
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do without taking your gloves off and
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then rooting around the grass to find
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them when you dropped them yeah I'm not
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in favor of I don't know I'd like to I
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don't know to put it in the mag or not
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but um like a little section devoted to
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uh
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uh a multitool that has sentimental
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value oh I think everyone's got some
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multitool they've got kicking around
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that they use probably not on a bike
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anymore but they've got one that they
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use to tighten the hinge of your kitchen
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door you got do the whole house with it
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basically have you got fond memories
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with with one of your multitools then
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yes can
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one stolen from uh gelma Cycles down in
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not really just not giv
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back technically I think that might be
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stolen well it all goes around come
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around Andrew Londa guys's got my
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Leatherman I won't forget that what so P
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Ken for example that's Mark's favorite
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apparently okay sorry we need to go back
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to why Londa guy has got your multitool
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he was at a marzak launch somewhere in
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CA
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dampo and he was trying to repair his
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bicycle as you can imagine a young Free
14:30
Rider repairs a
14:32
bicycle and he wanted a pair of players
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similarly wow I know so i' got someone
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there and then that was that it might be
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at the hotel desk I don't really think
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so any I got home and look for all right
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yeah I don't mind I forgive him yeah
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yeah okay go round I forgive him cuz he
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did that really good save on rampage in
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2021 or something remember that fish
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tailing Madness that Som got back well
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good well and all of that was because
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his bike held together cuz he'd used
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your tool to adjust it possibly well you
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know maybe butterflies on something I
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can't remember in time travel I don't
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know maybe he tells his friends this one
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time yeah this Tech editor from a
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magazine gave me a tool
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yeah right yeah so yeah multitools what
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do you need on a
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multitool not as much as you used to it
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would be nice if you didn't need a load
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of different things but in I depends on
15:35
your you 225 you a four a three a five a
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six all of them probably not an eight no
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but you do for an eight for your pedals
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you do it's so rare though isn't it but
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you can have an eight if you want have
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an eight but then if you don't have an
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eight you can guarantee that that's the
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pedals that you're going to have with
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you you're fine as long as you're riding
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with someone else has got a tool you can
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stick two fours
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together two four Keys yeah does that
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work yes but then you'd have to get ones
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that had Pokey bits that came out of the
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body of the multi-tool at the right
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angle to be able to get them that close
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together exactly you should always get a
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multi-tool where the uh when it's in
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line with the body of the tool is flush
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at the top so you can put two together
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like that and just generally they're
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better for doing stem bolts when you get
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them slightly and sometimes you get a
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multitool that has all the gobbins yeah
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they don't fall on the floor they're not
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annoying but it's just such a weird
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shape that you can't get into your seat
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post bolts or any of that stuff and you
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just yeah oh saddle clamps that's the
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worst trying to do that with a
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multi-tool yeah yeah that's why I like
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um it's one reason to choose a Dro a
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post get one with angled bolts M
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brilliant well good I can't think of
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anyone who does that but there you go uh
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uh there's a post on yts that have the
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bolts at the side angled out it's oh wow
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brilliant that's probably a YT Postman
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that will be an sdg in Disguise ohg
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Tellis but these are the fine details
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that that is why we are here so that
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people out there don't have to buy 10
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multi-tools yeah chain tool to discover
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which one works that's the one we try to
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pretend we don't need isn't it but you
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do need yeah ruins any kind of
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pocketability of a tool in it if you get
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one that actually pocket it's not going
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to work as a chain tool is
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it well that that uh EDC oneup tool that
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I've got that seems pretty good actually
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saying that you don't really you're not
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really allowed not allowed but you're
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not you don't rejoin chains anyway you
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just need some to Ram the crap bit out
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and then you have to put a new power
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Link in don't you so it's actually
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having a power link on you the important
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for the change
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you've got again not as much of a
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problem for normal people who own a bike
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and ride a bike more of a problem for us
18:08
Muppets that have lots of different
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bikes with different chains and
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different GE anyone list to this will
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have loads of
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bikes with loads of different speeds and
18:18
with different shaped handlebars but if
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in down get a 10 speed cuz it will kind
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of fit everything just go home very
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quickly once youve put it
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on they not Mega strong if you put it on
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a
18:30
12 yeah well so that will be in a fourth
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coming magazine some point far in the
18:36
future oh yeah it's quite far in the
18:38
future really oh is it right yeah
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because we've just the other one's not
18:42
out yet is it no we've just sent one to
18:44
the printer just now and if you are
18:46
listening and you haven't bought a
18:49
subscription or the magazine yet one
18:52
magazine costs £10 okay stay with me but
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if you subscribe on our B monly
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subscription which which is bi bi as in
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it comes out of your bank as every other
19:09
month it's
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£ 8.99 actually .99 yeah okay so that
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will get
19:19
you that will get you one copy of the
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magazine yeah every other month plus all
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the other stuff on the website that you
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get anyway start it's just another way
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of uh having a go with us isn't it yeah
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so if you get do 8.99 you get at least
19:35
one magazine and you get access to every
19:38
magazine ever in a digital format don't
19:39
you and all that kind of malaky so and
19:43
so do it at work use their bandwidth and
19:45
download all 150 whatever copies of the
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PDF to a pen drive if you remember what
19:52
those
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19:55
maybe while you're at work or you could
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stick around with us and uh carry on
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with your subscription and we'll send
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you more magazines every other month
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keep making them can't help it yeah and
20:05
you'll get to read about multitools in
20:08
due course at some point in the future
20:10
so indeed well I was up very early this
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morning so I think it's time for us to
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stop talking and probably make coffee
20:19
have a nap have lunch something like
20:20
that or I might fall asleep oh you get
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yeah and read about as we just found out
20:25
if you get a multitool have a look at it
20:27
to see where all the bits are cuz we
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couldn't work out where one bit was was
20:31
it to go and find a YouTube video
20:33
operate a freaking multi tool go and was
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really good but it's if I needed an 8
20:39
mil I would have sworn that tool didn't
20:41
have an 8 mil capability but it did it
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did yes go and play with your tools
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while you're sitting on your sofa and
20:48
don't wait for you to knead it out on
20:50
the trail okay then
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tip bye bye for now
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