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Neil from Sonder has been to Singletrack Towers today to show us the new Signal Ti, an aggressive titanium 29er hardtail. More info here: https://singletrackworld.com/2018/06/first-look-sonder-signal-ti-29er/
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hi this is Andy from single track
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magazine and I'm here with Neil from
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Sandow yogurt and we have something
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pretty cool to show you all today to
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want to introduce it yeah this is our
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new aggressive trail hard tail 209'er
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the signal TI so it's a titanium 29er
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aggressive hard tail and can you tell me
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a few like specific cool little features
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on this hotel that I'm very proud of
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yeah for start huge tire clearance know
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being aggressive bike
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big tires salt enduro bike sized tires I
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sort of bang on trend at the minute so
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clear of stick 42.6 tire at the rear
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generous clearance at that so even the
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2.6 you could write down the winter yeah
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Mirren's these are 2.6 and I can still
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get a finger there in the chain snow
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glows so I am - your mud year and what
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Clarence there's loads of space offs
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they really really neat fully guided
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into a routine set such a tube from
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Sabac so sorry Caitlin one end it pops
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out the other I'll make it a super
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simple so if you buy this as a frame
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only you don't need to mess around a
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table most cable absolutely book comes
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out there and then you give a break to
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down here and then the dish next oh I
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want the other stays awesome and this is
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the the medium version of the frame and
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we've just been out on a ride that's why
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we're quite sweaty and muddy a little
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bit muddy and what you're telling us
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while we were riding that the different
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size frames actually come with different
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chainstay let's yeah yeah not something
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I had thought about until sort of
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probably about a year ago now I've
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talking to a certain really large a
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journalist who sort of riding an extra
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large sized bite the same road stays as
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a medium he felt from em lifted a bit
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too easy and obviously it had been so
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tall could get his weight really really
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far back that was about wheel and
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relative to the center of the bike he
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worked further out than someone medium
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would be so with this small medium yet
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the same wave stays at 425 so nice and
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short
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that's a poppy so like myself at five
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for a medium it's perfect for me I
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couldn't get it on the back wheel
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niceties it and it's just
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a bit from about we're on it yeah and
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then the large gets 430 the XL gets 435
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so it's only a small difference on paper
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but when you do ride the bike you have 5
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mil mate it's quite a bit difference
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it's pretty nice because usually we see
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manufacturers only concentrating on the
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reach or the stack yeah but you know it
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makes sense to make it a bit longer
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depending on the size of the rider
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doesn't it yeah perfect okay this is a
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medium sized frame so what's the REIT
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what is the reach on this one gonna be
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this is for thirty two point five so
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we've kept see it we've not gone super
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long which is the current trend we've
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kept it a little bit shorter but it
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still relatively long just keeps it
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playful really so yeah is about the
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important shoot downhill it's super
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stable and we've got nice long wheelbase
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with a 51 offset fork so yeah it's got a
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point and shoot but then when you get in
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the playful Joe tight turns jumps and
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things yeah that really really well
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actually you mentioned the offset you
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say you've stuck with a 51 you did try a
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short run yeah yeah we tried shot or a
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short of our treasure offset I wrote
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back-to-back same trails both Forks the
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shorter offset for the tight twisty
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trails really really made it just crazy
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capable the really steep tight twisty
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stuff I think that the majority people
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believes this is more a virgin and all
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they peddle longer faster descents and
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even with the 15 or off say it's still
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super capable with the twist is as the
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sound is just found out yeah so I think
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you get best of both worlds basically so
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I mean like although you're specking it
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with a 51 if someone did buy this bike
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and now 42
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it'd be fine oh yeah yeah it's with the
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42 I farmed the first section of the
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ride that did was sort of a fast wide
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open rocky descent and I felt like the
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front wheel was a bit too far relief
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from so it just felt that a little bit
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twitchy still quite still stable but a
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bit twitching around the right but then
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when I did get to the twisty tech stuff
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it were yeah it was it was step up oh
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really impressed so it's a pretty
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versatile bike so you didn't put like
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pretty chunky tires on it you've got
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different length chain space you've got
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a really low seat F tube and stand over
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height there so yeah this late you say
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this is a medium and I'm kind of like in
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between medium or large yeah
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but I mean like okay I feel I could be
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getting two different mics I could have
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like a medium but would you'd be super
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playful whereas a larger one would be
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more there and your bruiser type yeah so
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it's a really versatile yeah and in what
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you want because the see tubes are so
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short you can go a 5/8 I could size up
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to a large forward but a longer reach
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and as you say that that is the sort of
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enduro bruisers now Middle East really
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have you done anything with their the
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stack in the the front end yeah yeah so
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that super short stack so the head tubes
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are nice and short basically what we've
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done because obviously we do the
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transmitter which is a plus but people
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want to put some arrows in that they're
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fit but it's not suited to its being at
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all so we've looked at sort of bottom
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bracket height stuck I and this box just
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dropped him yeah like relative to wheel
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Cyrus I think so yeah we've dropped like
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23 mil at the bottom bracket so that's
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down to a 65 drop and head tube I think
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on the mediums 100 mils this so I mean
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this is a 29 only bike you wouldn't want
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to put 650 B plus tires and really
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probably could but it's it's not
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something that's designed for right
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we've not tried it because it's not
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intended to run it and if you want to
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plus buy it we do a plus bike yeah and
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it's similar style of riding in tennis
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and it's so like this like say this is
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the first aggro 29 you've done yes and
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you've gone for tie Israeli really yeah
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my main reason for tie coming from
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riding a Plus transmitter
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obviously you get a lot comfort out of
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tires so our travelers are aluminium and
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carbon both frames tend to be quite
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stiff the carbon does get very forgiving
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ride we initially we thought about our
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medium could welcome in the future but I
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think really for this style of bike to
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maintain somewhat comfort titanium works
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yeah yeah it is comfortable
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I even on the rocky stuff today coming
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down the hills because I was kind of
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worried going from a full suspension
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bike onto a hard tail I've not written
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in the hotel for months but I was I was
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pretty impressed
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yes oaks thing is up really really just
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up the trail well and it's pretty and
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what a thing oh yeah
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so this is a pre-production frame isn't
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it it says yeah this is
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firewall sore pre-production sample yeah
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production frames arrive in around a
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week so those are the same reach same
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angles as this area everyone's the same
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geometry wise dealing with change we've
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made is the graphics of Sun blustered so
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rather than being the vinyl decal there
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are some listen on there so it just
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gives it that bit more premium look at
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me address it won't rub off nice and any
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other changes compared to their one
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other small change which something
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you'll not see ya down the stays here
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we've got two plates on either side
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we've just put an extra abrasive between
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those plates this frame as it sits has
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passed the intestines no it's well up to
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standard but we felt a little bit of
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bracing in there because the world area
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is quite small this place yeah just that
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one braces just made sure really cool
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and what about the geometry so head
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angle is 66 yeah 74 seat yeah and that's
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where 130 ml travel for I want the ESO
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designed around a 540 ml axles crammed
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for you hook there sorts heavily the way
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yeah but this sweet spot yeah it's such
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capable climber capable descender you
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don't really need to go either way to
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get the best out of it cool I thought we
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got bottle bosses too we've got some
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here demo underneath if you want to go
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crazy all the water
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yeah it's mad isn't it like everyone's
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like let's make our bikes lighter and
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now let's make them happier by says it's
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all backing in it but yeah don't I when
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I have been around this I do run a
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bottle of it yeah yeah it's plenty of
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space in there yeah fabricators work as
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well so just out of interest as well
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like because we've got a occur to see it
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appear yep so what kind of a dropper
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post could you put in here right without
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it bang go into the 12 this is a six
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inch drop so for 40 post yeah and that's
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been dance to college with you so you
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can get quite a long drop there I'll sit
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depends I have told you are but I
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suspect most people size for size to be
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able to run 170 I run a 150 with it out
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an engine off so so again pretty good if
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you want a size up or whatever isn't it
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yeah yeah yeah plenty of space on it
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awesome are there any questions coming
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through no right then is this for sale
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now yeah for snow of a website get on
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there and pre
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now friends of a thousand-pound bikes
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we'll start with an annex warm with a
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revelation fork at 1,800 pounds this is
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it's it's is 2 for 1800 for a full bite
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with a titanium frame yeah yeah and
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that's recent revelation yeah yeah
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always a problem now arrive next week
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excellent I think that's it thanks
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everyone and oh happy birthday
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thank you see y'all soon all right but
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