Church buildings are national assets in my book, not just religious ones. I’m not religious, but I’ve marvelled at their splendour many times and also enjoyed their quiet spaces. I would be very sad to see them collapse through lack of funding

Even as a dogmatic atheist, I agree with molgrips’ comments. Churches are part of our architectural and historical heritage and we should take care of them. Of course, if the C of E is minted, then they should reimburse the public purse by whatever valid form of taxation.

You

…missed a trick there, should have said “yourself”..!

Anyone using “yourself” and “myself” incorrectly. BANNED and BEHEADED. Harsh, but fair.

I think that’s the first time I’ve ever agreed with you. Well said, sir!

Who needs performance when you’re on a scooter..?

I had a Vespa 50 when I was sixteen – I loved it and have the spent the next twenty-something years thinking, “I have to get another one…”

If Hansen had wanted to be a manager, he’d have been at Anfield long before now.

Not for long, I hope!

I’d welcome Sami Hyypiä being given a crack at it…

highly regulated world for the past 30 years

…there’s been a steady process of deregulation since the eighties, causing unsustainable growth in fits and starts, that suits no-one but the mega-wealthy.

heavily regulated banking = no innovation, no growth

heavily regulated banking = no get-rich-quick sharks bankrupting nations for their own sense of vanity. Like I say, dangerous children in very big sweetshops.

So the fact de-regulation of banking has made us one of the world leading financial centres and generated more billions for the economy than U could possibly imagine is not relevant to this discussion then?

Deregulation is the exact reason we’re in this stink, playing right into the hands of investment bankers who think they’re geniuses, when in fact they are children in an unattended sweet shop.

One of the questions asked if I had had a sex change

Maybe it’s like when you go to the Halifax to get some cash out and they ask if you want a mortgage? Perhaps they’re offering to do you a good deal on a snip and tuck?

Well I’ve got to thank you for clearing the whole thing up about animal rights types being a barrel of laughs, anyway

Yeah, people with a conscience never have a laugh. You right wingers have all the best comedians. Like….er….er….

Jase – sorry for hijacking your thread! I’ll shut up now!

What’s your point caller?

I should have added, my point is that the OP might not want his daughter to be party to this kind of shenanigans. That’s his choice.

Why on earth is this relevant to the OP taking his daughter to the dogs?

Like it stopped in 2006.

Seems to me you’re looking for any old opportunity to wave your lofty, self-righteous superior morals around

Ha ha! The (again) predictable retort of the perplexed individual.

Oooh jokes about graphs, now the ones about slaughtering dogs don’t seem so funny.

well you beat me to it…predictable aren’t you?

I’m just trying to get the logistics of this operation straight in my head

…and before you jump on the “allegedly” – from the Guardian…”A builders’ merchant who today admitted killing and burying thousands of former racing greyhounds on land near his home”.

Must have a big yard. How long do you reckon he can keep that rate of attrition up for? How long has it taken him to accrue the hundreds of carcasses he’s got? I’m just trying to get the logistics of this operation straight in my head

My mistake. It was thousands. http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/greyhound_cull_sparks_anti_racing_protests_1_1122333
Not the only incident either.

Still think it’s a laugh?

Yay! The animal rights activists have turned up. They’re always a right laugh-a-minute

Ha ha! There’s a bloke in Sunderland who’ll shoot a greyhound you no longer could be arsed feeding for just a tenner…and then bury it with hundreds of others in a hole in his yard! What a hoot!

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I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and spell it out for you; If you don’t like the English; don’t move to England or Edinburgh.

But if you love the Scots, try London…

I failed so if anyone can come up with one.

…wondrous place…?

I won’t go through life …. intellectually feeling bad about myself because of what species I am

No, no need to do that, but please feel free to feel bad about yourself for the way you act intellectually and morally.

The only reasons people do gestures of goodwill is to make them feel better about themselves

That’s a statement about you, no-one else.

what an interesting psyche..

“interesting” indeed!

I don’t agree with you any moral obligation we have is secondary to the long term survival of the human species.

Well, you still need to protect the delicate eco-system we’re an endemic part of to ensure your own survival, so put your amoral egotism to the fore, and do it for selfish reasons if you must.

Seriously, explain why bar our own happiness or survival do we have a moral obligation?

We have a moral obligation precisely because we are the only species that is able to have a moral obligation, and additionally because we share a planet with a vast and wonderful natural world which deserves our respect and attention.

Morally, what duty to other species do we have?

Yep, let’s not give a flying f*** about other species. Especially things like bees. What do they do, except keep us all alive?

Probably one inside the other

Would that combination tempt you from your Daily Mail?

Outcomes all the same really it’s just this place is full of Gaurdian Readers (nothing better than a glass of moet while reading the socialist worker is there now

So which is it we’re all reading? The Guardian or the Socialist Worker?

Italy. I can’t stand all the Italians in Italy

I like them less when they’re in London. On the occasions I’ve ventured to the Smoke, Italians always seem to be in the way, gathering at the bottom of a set of steps. Maybe it’s a national trait – is that something you’d do for an eighth of your time when in the capital?

If there’s one place I hate, it’s Xenophobia. Everyone there is a ****. 😀

I failed so if anyone can come up with one.

I think I may have misunderstood the question but…glass vase?

Nigeria, Somalia, Afghanistan for starters

Oh THAT Europe…

I have a reputation at work, which I uphold for lazy comedy effect, for hating Norwegians. But I love everyone really. Except the bloody English.

For example, look at the work of Edward Estlin Cummings

Was that him who played for Sunderland in the eighties? Or was that s. cummins?

Why the next generation what about now?

Precisely. If we relieve the ultra-powerful elite (the infamous 1%) of a reasonable element of their wealth, we could do it tomorrow.

I do it frequently. And while I often go with other people too, I can’t imagine what real benefit there is in having someone sat next to you while you’re at the flicks. Unless you’re one of those tossers who talks all the way through the film, in which case you should have your face cut off slowly with a rusty blade.

Like missing full stops off! 😕

Writing is about style, not rules

That might be true, but like with most art forms, you really need to understand the rules that do exist before you can successfully subvert them