looks good but wouldnt own one of that makes sence?

lush mate know the feeling about the early start! Afan maeans a 6 am strt for me on the plus side with go roads I can be there and on the trail by 9!

Just put my 2Summer tyres on (tubeless dont you know!!) sticking with my fire xc pros best alrouinder for me and my riding (ie a bit of everything really!!)

Bike is an orange five.

Alway been a big fan of X( TBH. HAve it on my cove HT and its still going strong have not even tweeked the cable in the last 6 months I think! HOwever got x9 on my five and its been nothing but trouble cant get it to stay sweet for anthing omore than a few weeks, show it mud and it goes to pot. Have been told by lbs that SRAM have changed the plastic and its not as good on the mech body?? Either way I am putting on shim stuff and sealed cables this weekend!!

One question ( not a troll) though mate what lid do you wear when you do bet its not a face saver is it!?!

Wicked!! cant wait to go for a spin with my little Chap ( will be a while he’s only 18 months!!)

Mate agree to disagree but I hope neither of us ever need the use of our lid or skull when out for a ride!! Take care mate!! (still think your daft!) :D am off to bed have a 5am (lidded) ride to look forward too!

Thompson DC, Rivara, Thompson RS. 1996
Full paper available on-line mate :D

Summary report of the Harborview Helmet Studies.
Study at 7 Seattle hospitals involving 3,390 cyclists who were injured or died 1992-4. Individuals with head or brain injuries compared to those involved in crashes but who did not suffere such injuries. 50.6% had worn helmets at time of crash. Concluded that helmets decrease risk of head injury by 69%, brain injury by 65% and severe brain injury by 74%. Helmets work equally well for all age groups, and in crashes with and without motor vehicles (which are most important risk factor for serious injury). Substantial protection provided against lacerations and fractures to upper and mid-face, but not to lower face. Hard shell helmets may offer greatest protection against severe brain injury

To be honest I dont think wearing a lid makes me super man but I think I am better off with one than with out, if you dont want to then dont will happily ride with you and go for a pint afterward (would think your daft though!!! :twisted: !!!)

1) he feels ike we owe him….2.5% off VAT WFT??
2) the smugness
3) that jaw jut thing he does in between words when speaking.
4) He regulary posts what tyres treads

Enough said! TBH cameron is a sumg G*T too but would rather up up with him for 4 years than Brown of all of them only Vince Cable seems to be in any way credible!

I have to admit I am pro choice when it comes to Lids if you dont want to then dont, its a bit like smoking its your choice if you do or not (however smoking does affect others in a way not wearing a lid does not But you get my point?)

However I wont leave the house with out putting one on infact it feels really odd with out wearing one it’s a habit for me. I have no assumption that wearing one will save me in all situations but it will/ has in some and I’ll play the odds thanks and keep wearing one, as will my two kids once they are big enough to start riding. To be frank I think people not wearing one esp when trail riding are plain daft. But thats there choice.

Orange five?? am 6’3 and the 20″ is a good fit but not a gate!!!

I have x9 on my cove, its a no issues set up and apart from one tweek after a few weeks still runs smooth even when caked in SH**E, so impressed was I that I got same set up on my five however show it a damp patch and the shifting goes to sh*te new cables outers re set it up three times or so including in despiration getting the LBS t set it up went to aftan last week and same problem shifting packed up all my mates had Shim kit on with on issues what so ever, so have finally given up on the X9. Having had a chat with the chaps at the bike shop in Afan they said some of the newer x9 kit was not as good (different softer plastic on the mechs alloweed it to jam??) and sufferd this issue as they had seen it before. Now I dont know for sure but I have had nothing but trouble this this set up from almost new…have had the same kit although a year older set it up and ran it for ages with not a sniff of an issue. Mixed bag really mate!!!! either way am fitting newe Shim mech and shifters and gore cables today!!!

MAte asked my father in law before I asked my (now wife) dont regret it at all its a nice tradition best of luck mate!!!!! worse bit for me was the tought that I’d asked him and what if she said no I would have felt like a right muppet!!!!!!

Let us know how it goes mate!!!

Mate owned a stumpy, sold it and bought a five its just brilliant amazing, every where form the south downs meridas and afan it eats it all cant speak highly enough just avoid the x9 option and stick with the XT x9 on mine has been awful shame as on my cove its alway been faultless :lol: get a test ride but you really wont regret buying it!!!!!!

Nice mate very nice!!!! HAve you still got the titus???? Am loving the look of the FTM, but always liked the look of these!

NO worries about the five climbing mate it will go up hill no probs for a 140mm trail bike really worth a look mate.

Hi mate I have a five, got it in august the best bike I have ever owned. Had a stumpy fsr still have a cove stiffee. I really like the bike it’s really tough climbs well flies down hill, never ridden a cannondale so cant comment. Orange are very good on the test ride front so I would speak to your LBS. But I would not even think twice about buying one again.

HAve to admit getting into a Enclosed are a with a bloke who’s only aim is to hit me so hard in the head I fain….never seems a good idea…!!! Now getting on a bike and going fast through trees when I might fall off and hit one…..fab idea………..;)

Looks lush mate lush!!

TBh dont think you can beat a five its a brill bike really. But if 120mm is what you want stumpy or a trek ex are all about that and are really good bikes the st4 has a good review in dirt a few months back buts it also on the orange home page mate.

Am 6’3 and 18stone (and a bit sometimes!!) got a cove stiffee its been brill ride a 19″ its quite upright tough but you’ll get up most things if you wind the forks down.

We ride there most friday evenings and apart fom dog walkers and other bikers (inc BMXers) only seen a small gruop 5-6 younger kids once in two years of going there its far from Beirut but its rough over towards the hospital. Saw about the mugging sounds a bit of a Opportunist thing really?? My mate goes on his own during the day…but not sure if I would ride at night on my own TBH. I tend to go to QE on my tod.

got a gobi and a bel air ti not much in it really…

Gents I am 18 stone and a bit!!!! When where and how serious???? Am already in training for the meridas!!!! eye of the tiger and all!!