Blimey has any one actually read these posts befroe commenting on busted carbon
"I walked away from being T-boned by a car. Pity i don't have the pic of the left pedal, it got sheared in two"
"Mou sent me these photos of the broken fork on his Tank Matrix. I'm not sure exactly what happened, but it involved a Toyota"
FFS any light frame will be mashed up if hit by a car Carbon is not as Sh**E as it made out, its used on stuff from jet fightes to F1 cars. Also a lot of these are light or cheap road bikes, I dont have an issue with carbon worked on carbon Yachts seen them take huge impacts. By the same reasoning you build really light ie only strenghten in areas where known loading will happen ie BB head tunbe and it gets a Toyota in the down tube then it will go.
Plus your scaring me just got a mojo!!!! 8O 8)