mikey74, a month behind Rogate by the sounds of it. Meeting at the K2 Leisure centre Crawley at 7.30 pm. The najority of the locals don't want it, apart from a handful of the DH guys. Sounds like it's going ahead regardless, the CTC/FC are keen to steam roller this scheme across their 'public access' woodlands!

£6 per day is my guess. The CTC/FC are trying to do something similar in my neck of the woods – Tilgate, West Sussex.

Please up date us as to the meeting or pm me. ta

jedi – were you at Peaslake (Surrey Hills) last Saturday?

That WAS funny in a very black humoured kinda way Mark! Keep up the writing. All the best.

Pete aka Woodsman

The saying 'life begins at forty' came about because that was your age, when your kids started leaving home, and you started to have more freedom and less responsibilities as a result! I know how things have changed!!

I struggled with forty, and at 44, I'm still coming to terms with it to be honest. It's that age where you assess where you are in life, and it may not be what you imagined when growing up.

'cos we know the value and not just the price!

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I have for the first time this year. This built up for less that the cost of one disc brake set up.

It's good to see he is back using the Rohloff! Last series I seem to remember he broke A spoke, and had to go back to deralier set up – hope he's carrying a couple of spare spokes this time. The Rohloff does have an unusual spoke lenth!

cheers guys, will check those out.

I hate dogs

Something Swobo. There are some good deals on merino short sleeve cycling tops – under 50 @ Stif. Go up a size though if you do order!

A mate of mine had a job title as 'saw doctor'! He worked at a saw mill and was responsible for maintaining the saws – of course, and repairing the cracks that appear in them, it sounded more involved that I imagined, with heat treating the blades etc! There you go some useless info 🙂

I looked into this a fair bit in the past. The Italian sounding 'effeto' (sp) looked the best, and make sure you get the calibrated one – proffessional I think they label it. I have used a couple of the cheaper brands and they were completely hopeless (non-accurate) and snapped my Thomson stem plate at the recommended setting!

If you really want to spend bucks, then Snap-on do a range, but to get low enough for bike stuff it's a digital read out, which I didn't want as I thought the times I would need it, the likely hood is that the battery would be flat! Plus it was £200-300.

I researched into calibration, and the wider the scale say, 0-30Nm the less accurate, than say a wrench from 0-10Nm.

I'll put a link up to the one I thought came out best value with a proper calibration cerificate, and not just a BS certificate that the cheaper one's came with. You'll need to make your own judgement of course.

This is the one I prefered out of the bike specific, but reading the blurb, you still have to request a calibration certificate which is questionable IMO! http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=29422

I saw that too spooky (Ollie) I think it was a Severn – could be a good option!

clarky, I agree, oddly enough I did use perfect-it on a cellulose classic, it worked absolutely fine, surprisingly it wasn't as effective on cellulose as two pack!

I don't know anybody in my trade that still uses that range of products!

'3M Perfect-it compound' and an old T-shirt all you need, about 20 quid – done!

G3 is week and ancient, who uses that anymore and lambswool bonnets ffs!
Have you been reading practical classics from the 70's….

Don't put a machine on it, that's for flatter panels, you will just burn through the high areas. Forget 1000 grit paper too, you will go through the colour, 1000 is for flatting primer prior to basecoats. Get some 3m Perfect-it Compound and work it by hand – it's pretty powerfull stuff. Available form Brown Brothers, West Byfleet (I think you're sort of that way as I've met you on some local rides?)

You could try cutting it back with compound first. It's a respray or leave it if you don't achieve what you want. It shouldn't be that matt from the gun. looks DIY to me unfortunately. http://www.peterflynnclassiccars.com

Pete

I think you've plenty of time. It is tough, especially when wet, is my experience!

Enjoy – you'll do it.

WTF! 'shanks'

One of my favourites; thick toast(cut your own not pre-sliced), smoked salmon covering it, add a soft yoke poached egg, then hollondaise sauce over that, and a mug of tea on the side! Repeat if you are feeling really decadent..

That's a lot of sandwiches! 😉

Sold to me – now all I need is White Ind Eno cranks at 170mm…

Dunno, but you'll sell it alright over on Retrobike, they're not worth a fortune, but as I said it will go quickly enough, as long as it's not a weird size. keep it as it is and let someone decide if they want to keep it original or respray it.

Photo all the bits together and offer it for sale as one – see what happens. £300ish depending on condition is my guess, and that IS a guess.

They seem to hold up well compared to other merino I own, I wpould buy another if I needed to – in the sale again probably though! I can't remember what I paid but it was a bit less than mrp.

Smuzzy, I'm interested, mail me with a price, addy in profile.

ta

I've got a vail – it's logo free thankfully, in brown as I'm doing detail! It's good, kept it's shape in a year of use and washing, no holes, no complaints. I'd consider another, but don't want to be an 'A' board for Howies.

Smuzzy, if you push the loose lockring in toward the centre of the shell a far as it goes (seated), then measure the distance between the inner two faces of the lock rings, that will give the shell width. Make sure it's the inner face (that seats against the frame BB shell) and not the outer (that you put a 'c' spanner on)

I could be interested in it, depending on that dimension, although I wouldn't want to get your hopes up in achieving anything near those high prices you quoted. Also, unless it has red seals, it won't be any good for a mtb or road bike for that matter, it would need to go back to Royce and have the 'all weather seals' fitted.

It isn't for a stock bike, more custom IMO.

Is it a 68 or 73mm shell does anyone know?

jond – Waxoyl does get thin when warm, perhaps keep it in the house for a few days (not near carpet or anything vulnerable to staining). Try and get it in the chainstays and seatstays. If it does accumualte half way down, don't worry, on a hot day it will thin and move around with ease, kind of re-applying itself. That said, obviously be aware that some leakage may occur through seat tube or drain holes on a hot day. Depending on how much you out in, it should be negligeable – you only need a film for protection.

I've been using it for 20 years on these http://www.peterflynnclassiccars.com

If you're not going to buy anything I'd go for chainsaw oil, although I don't know how you're going to get it in the chainstays, with it's viscocity.

My job is repairing rusted thin walled metal, I just don't get why the nay-sayers are so against rust prevention. A 50 year old road bike isn't the same, and hasn't had the same use of mud, and muc-off type cleaners and hose pipe cleaning regimes.

Framesaver, Waxoyl (my recommendation), or similar, a few quid, why not. I've had my steel framed bike for nearly five years, and I plan on keeping it forever.

I've not read any of the posts, but I do not like football in any way shape or form! I didn't know it was the world cup this year untill I heard it on the radio this week – it comes around bloody quick!

And I'm straight, just thought I'd add that 😯

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girlfriend! sorry 😉

Made in Italy – both Middleburn and campy!

Yep, it's about to happen in Sussex! A few threads downs from this thread.

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/tilgate-forest-mtb-paying-to-ride-there

….and not outsource the manufacture abroad – please tell me this is still the case here?

Anything that doesn't have Endura written on them, would be a good start!

Surely they must be taking note of all the returns/negative comments by now….

Adjustable Q-factor suits me – my wonky knees don't like a narrow Q! I can't ride with a narrow Q more like!!

Where's the pictures then……….

£15 is more like a reasonable cost, especially if that actually goes on materials etc.

Bump – for any evening local STW'ers.

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