It is a lot easier to walk into a shop and say I want a gravel bike than I want a relaxed geometry all day comfortable bike with wide tyres strong wheels rack and guard mounts etc etc, also easier to search on said term “Gravel”

Good stuff.

Am i right that optimal chainline for 1×10 on 135mm dropout is 50mm …is this pushable to 52mm or would that give to much cross chaining in the big rear gears.

reason i ask is i cant get anything but a 32 tooth on a 50mm chain line i live in a very flat area and would prefer a 36 tooth.

+1 for what gwurk said

Explored the next day and got about halfway up a track in the 4×4 before the vegetation got too much, the bike trails were clearly visible and well used so there was nothing stopping me pushing up but….back the following day with a chainsaw in the back and now have a fully cut back access road to the top…yes, I am now that prick from a Surrey Hills thread a few years ago whose girlfriend was shuttling him to the top for DH runs

I am intrigued, you went up with a chainsaw is this a public road ? public property? can you not get in trouble? or did you get permission from someone.?

Not accusing just a question.

The question is how big is the lawn? I was cutting my 5000 sqm for 2 years with a 53cm cut mower honda engine deck by some Italian company 5.5 housr each time …..looked into the Toro timemaster but could not find a dealer there is also a cub cadet which is very wide cut and gets better reviews than the Torro.

http://www.cubcadet.com/equipment/cubcadet/walk-behind-mowers/wide-area-walk-behinds/features

In the end i picked up a 107cm cut john deere for 450 euro, (bargain) the guy could not get it to run on the day, he had forgot it wont start with out engaging the park brake so i made him a silly offer and walked away grinning with my new green and yellow pride and joy 90 minutes to cut the grass :lol:

Priceless.

What is best for cycling a perscription set of glasses or sunglasses with prescription insert, I like the idea of changing the lens for different conditions but worry the glasses will be to uncomfortable and heavy what do people chose ?

So we need a Kirk , but we got a May.

It’s raining :(

https://www.change.org/p/theresa-may-mp-keeping-our-eu-citizenship-post-brexit/w

petition to keep EU citizenship

The whole history of mankind has been about joining together to resist tyranny and danger from, the first small family groups to villages to tribes to kingdoms to nations and alliances together we are better off history proves it, time and time again by coming together we have achieved great things and changed the world divided we fall, at the end of the Roman empire came the dark ages a step back to petty wars and the all powerful king kicking our asses with his gang of thugs,we came together in unions to resist the all powerful mill owner to fight the Nazis the list goes on and on Brexit to me feels like a step back to the dark ages history proves we are better off together changing the EU from within to what it should be.

Sorry if this reads poorly I am not the most literate guy on here.

And yes bullying on here is one reason I rarely post.

I would be very interested to hear how many people will be negatively or positively affected by Brexit, ill start

Brexit may well wipe out my business I sell houses in France to mainly Brits we are already experiencing grave difficulty!

lmao ….

100 percent

absolutely best excuse for a new bike.

Really enjoyed Marco pollo

totally of topic but the 80 quid apollo just caused a memory

80 quid Apollo was my first mtb 45 lbs wow ….the second was a giant NRS about 25lbs ish god was I a shocked bunny when I trod on those pedals for the first time lol.

Thanks for that …

I don’t think she would be offended..

pine floors expand and contract considerably with the seasons, if your gaps are not clean through to the space below I would leave it. I have a top floor laid with no gaps it is a nightmare for noise creaking and groaning as you walk because its pushing against each plank, they need to move a little imo.

So how are those Hold-sworths holding up? pun intended.

any issues?

The phone thing is curious …I have found myself intently studying my phone although the reality is i am just swiping back and forth to avoid the possibility of having to talk to other people…when did i become scared of interaction and what am I missing because of this convenient gadget to hide behind? :oops:

Panini = overpriced and never quite as good toastie.

well said sir.

maybe demount every thing all the lids doors and hot plates fire basket etc then as said before get a piece of carpet under the front.

Agree csb this is the wealthy part of spain showing two fingers to the rest of their fellow countrymen, no sympathy from me.

Imagine westminster refusing to fund any other part of the UK.

Maybe something like this .

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TSUNAMI-Chrome-Steel-Touring-Cyclocross-Frameset-26-700C-Frame-Fork-Classic-Red/272571146774?epid=589764059&hash=item3f7681a216:m:mIwtG2JMtsFyW-5h54h9VHQ

In a word , BAD.

I tried to return a frame that was a mess brand new and got no satisfaction I was also in a different country and they did not want to know.

Hoods for climbing and the flat, tops for resting or a change of position just started descending in the drops for better brake control.

I am converting a tourer to gravel took off the guards and I can get 50mm in easily but its a heavy beast at 12kg.

To much tech in cars people are paying the tech more attention than the driving.

Nothing new Peugeot were making dedicated gravel bikes in the 50/60/70/80’s under labels like “demi course” and “randonneuse” fat tires guard rack mounts and some with 650 tire size you can pick them up for a song on the french version of gumtree etc its called https://www.leboncoin.fr/ got one in the back of the stable lovely soft riding frames and not heavy even by today’s standards.

They also take up a lot of space when not being used, which is usually most of the time.

Thats the whole point why lumber yourself with a god awful tank off a vehicle which is neither one thing or the other just for the few times you need it, trailer if you have space is so practical.

4×4 or big estate and trailer job jobed..I love having a trailer so useful and just not there when you dont want it to be.

Start a pension and keep paying into it.

and stop smoking that shit herbe you dumbass.

do not work for family they will rob you.

Money is not real its a concept nothing more.

+ 1 Argentina

28c 65 psi 13 stone.

Any one use this intey light looks good for the money.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B06XW91J1J/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1_w

So how does it work out if like me you are a frequent tire changer ?

Interesting stuff any thoughts on the Parrot Bebop range I can pick one up for a couple of hundred euro.

To learn can you tether the thing to the ground ?