I Agree with crashtestmonkey Items need to be fit for purpose, frankly I am sick of cheap Chinese Asian tat being not fit for purpose, Yesterday i purchased a Silverline tap and die set to sort the forks I had to return it as I was not fit for purpose.

A huge transfer of wealth is being sent east at the cost of western jobs for items so shoody as to beggar belife most often people dont complain its like stealing your money.

As to it being a cheap frame it originally was 299 not so cheap had I known the grief I was going to have I would have purchased a Genisis Vapour or CDA at a simalar price but I wanted the particular advantages this frame offered wide clearance 135 mm spacing rack and guard mounts etc I had also like CTM purchased parts that made sending it back for refund awkward.

I doubt I will be returning to PX in the future.

Bike looks great! I actually like the silver,

Is that a large?

Started to build the frame up disc mount threads on the fork of a really poor quality and not excepting bolts, Haven’t tried to force it in but contacted PX ….they have asked for pics.

I wonder if this is a new supplier to PX QC would appear to be an issue on this batch.

I bought a London road to build up for a bit of a utility bike so they are going in there with 9 speed mtb gearing I hope, If i can get it all to work

Even the French hate Renault, Stay away from renault autos citroen is the best French car followed by Peugeot …dont right off Fiat cheap build quality but good engines.

Go to the renault owners forum it will scare the hell out of you.

Te miro?

OMG its Rohan

So its north island then

Tasmania? :wink:

Bodmin moor?

Woow Ambrose…took my breath away.

Falling in love again at 53 and realizing life aint quite over yet! :-)

Stooked for you chap! just building my own version at the moment cant wait to get out there.

I just went to check my other two frames a trek cobia and a revolution country traveler and there is no difference both seats drop the moment you let off the seat clamp and both are to similar tolerances.

A quick search can reveal that px have had one or to issues along this line …..
http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/seat-post-inner-diameter-too-big-onone-scandal

I think if your unhappy go for the full refund as you will never trust it.

To be honest that looks the same as mine and i would not expect anything tighter, many a time i have let my seat clamp off on a bike to have the stem fall,

memrise
rosetta stone ..expensive

leave it for a year or two or look for somewhere really child freindly, I know a nice place in the country southwest france, gites. specialises in children pool bar baby monitors etc pm me if you want details.

every one there has kids so you dont feel like your killing every one elses holiday.

Fingers crossed chap!

Mine arrived seatpost is not a tight fit but snugs up with clamp it does not rattle around like yous.

I got one of the first kindles downloaded 600 (free)books and am still using it the best electronic device i ever had.

Oh and the entire Aubrey Maturin series.

plus one for the grapes of wrath , i am half way through it and gob smacked at how relavent it is in todays dog eat dog world of rampant capatalism.

Cycling is still taught in many French schools probably in all but i dont know that for sure.

Massive confusion on the headset front, there appear to be two FSA orbit c 40 no 42 headsets but one is designated “ACB” the other “caged bearing”

(ACB) being the correct one, to make maters worse i think the PX web site “may” be wrong as they don’t list the correct headset in the components section and I think the picture they have for the incorrect one is actually the pic for the correct one ….. :cry:

So can you feel the steel apeal through 2.5 inches of soft low inflated tire ?

On a road bike i think its appreciable but on a mtb with fat tires I have my doubts.

Gone the other way.

I have an Inbred 29er and a Gary fisher 29er in alu the GF is a far nicer ride imo than the Inbred although both are almost identical angles and built from the same parts. Steel needs to be skinny and often the weight just kills the feel for me.

Had a Thorn Sherpa amazing bike felt like the magic carpet ride steel is meant to be but it was a £500 frame so you would expect it to be special I think good steel costs, in my experience any way.

Another time whn pulling a lateshift in the pub kitchen i took out the trash and then had the most awfull elctric shock type feelin but prolonged like i was being tazerd in the heart’ this happens again later and i am convinced its a heart attack the missus rushes me to AE and we have a cardio , turns out to be a muscle in spasm nothing drastic and about 2.00 am igo home embarrased at waisting the hospitals time , I now live in france with no NHS god i miss it its bloody brilliant and you all need to fight like hell to keep it.

@WorldClassAccident

Own up this is a tenage sex dream. :lol:

Had a bad off and was ambulanced into hospital having passed out with bad pain in the midle of my back 3 crushed vertbre, attracive young female aussie doc sticks her finger up my rectum to check for nerve damage apparently a standard test i got pilles from to long behind the wheel of a truck boy did i scream.

do lol …..uups!

I allways give way to walkers horses etc …but the jogging fraternity wind me up with an attitude that the entire path width is theirs just so they can run abreast of each other and chat.

so jogers 3 abreast running at me and forcing me off the path is ok ….because thats what they allways ?

Well hopefully my making inquiry’s and quoting your predicament will focus PX on the issues you and a few others have.

Good luck.

Big bizzz , dont ya just lovem

Rang PX this morning to be reassured about the headset and seat tube,they say the headset is an industry standard and nothing one off and they have no knowledge at this time of any other QC issues on the frame and if there are any they will refund in full with postage …at this price £149 I pulled the trigger there just are so few framsets with this many features out there and NONE at this price. fingers crossed.

Hmmm does he not state the lifeline is a different size :roll:

If your used to mtb you may find the down tube shifting difficult but it looks like a comfortable frame.

Go take it for a spin its the only way to know.

Thanks for the info “wwaswas” obviously some people are not asking the right questions and assuming that the frame has a problem …now if we can just put this seat tube issue to bed I can get on a place my order :-)

ok a little confused i only ever had 1″ 1/8 headsets that took a lot of pressing in i bought the tools to remove and fit them …are we saying that new style headsets dont need to be pressed? ie not an interfearence fit.

I hear people have concerns over the head set fit also,any one now if thats true?

Woooow order on hold!

Flat bar advice.

Thinking of buying this for a flat bar commuter towpath and light 2/3 night camping trips dont want drops.

Is a medium with 540 toptube to small for a man 5’9″ 33 cycling inseam in a flat bar config any one built a flat bar version give me some advice please.

my mtb is an Inbred 29er medium and that’s about a 600 mm TT and does feel a little stretched run it with a 60 mm stem.

Tried a 60mm stem lowered the seat 1 cm bike became very twitchy especially at low speed and at high speed in the drops.

putting it up to sell its not for me,been cycling all my life now 54 and maybe its just to late to come to drops i’l get a hybrid for touring and chalk this up to experience still got the mtb’s so not to much off a loss as long as i can get a few quid back. should never have sold my cannondale ultra touring that was a lovely bike sigh!