PM questions are always hopelessly biased towards the PM, because he gets the final say, and no one holds him to account for the partisan half truths and BS that he spouts as an answer. If Corbyn is guilty of anything, it is hoping that asking a straight question will receive a straight answer. He’s an honest man in a den of thieves.

if u read the links and have a basic ability to understand what is written you will see your scaremongering comment is wrong.

Jeez. Are you hard of thinking, or what??? I’ll have one last go. Answer this;

How is saying;

They’re really starting to clamp down, drones as toys will soon be a thing of the past.

NOT scaremongering??? I’m not and never did suggest that the CAA aren’t looking to tighten up on illegal model aircraft usage, mainly due to the explosive growth of cheap quadcopter sales and the perceived safety issues thereof, but to suggest that this will lead to toy and hobbyist use of ‘drones’ being a thing of the past is clearly scaremongering. Unless you have a different definition of scaremongering that I don’t understand, that is.

On a seperate, less antagonistic note; you can build a 250 racer for as little as about £120 now, using stuff off hobbyking and RCtimer. You should factor in your goggles though; the cheapest hobbyking ‘quanum’ type work, but you’ll soon be hankering after a pair of dominator V2s Which come in between £2-300.

I’ve increased my commute gradually over the past few years for advancement/different jobs, and my personal rule was that I wouldn’t go anywhere that takes over an hour to get to. Time added to the working week a better metric than pure distance, (clear) motorway miles being a different kettle of fish to windy old A roads. I now commute 40 miles each way which takes 50 minutes. I’ll be actively looking to reduce that over the next few years; it’s too much for me moving forward.

20-30 minutes is unrealistic for a wired in battery ‘micro’ sized quad, due to the tiny weight tolerances involved. If you go a tiny bit bigger, to the 180 sized quads you get to swappable batteries, which with a few spares means you can be constantly airborne (depending on your indoor piloting skillz, of course…)

nice and wordy reply but just admit it you are wrong

🙄 😆 Right back at you, bud. Telling me I am wrong is not the same as proving that I’m wrong. I’m not even sure what it is you think I’m wrong about anymore, but I stand by what I wrote.

A work car (XC70) would regularly set off 40mph speed cameras at an indicated 45mph. The sat nav indicated approx 50mph at this speed. We quickly learned to trust the sat nav speedo over the OE one. Was reported defective many times but the mechanics (inc Volvo) could never find anything wrong with it (or rather; couldn’t find out what was wrong with it). It did have a hard life though! Good ol’ WB039. 8)

I totally agree with the idea of registering as is done in the states…

Cautiously agree, so long as it is done right. It would be just like the government to thoroughly screw it up though, making it onerous and expensive for the hobbyists who are already responsible and safety conscious, whilst doing nothing about the pillock who buys a quad off eBay and buzzes people on the beach. But if done exactly like the States have come up with; ie a $5 one off charge to register the pilot (free for early birds) and as many aircraft as you like, just having to be marked with your unique serial number, I could support that.

I don’t want to decend into an argument about semantics, but a statement that includes “careful… Get caught you’ll get fined” and concludes with “drones as toys will soon be a thing of the past” is clearly scaremongering. Neither are demonstrably true, and the fact that some more stringent rules are probably in the offing (the US has just commenced a compulsory registration of all UAVs over about 100grams) does not logically lead to the conclusion that the hobby is dead. That is scaremongering. It is perfectly possible to operate model aircraft including drones both with a reasonable level of safety and within the current legal framework.

I know this as it’s what I do day in day out as a paramedic practitioner.

Then you’d know that assessing an uncooperative and aggressive patient with dementia for injuries is fraught with pitfalls; there’s really not many patients with advanced dementia that I would leave at home. Depends on available alternative pathways of course, but the OP stated ‘needs an X-ray’, which is kind of indicative of some difficult to assess potential trauma.

‘Covering backsides’ can be a disparaging way of saying ensuring safest care.

He is just the steward to warm the seat for the next person.

You know, this may well be true, and even part of Corbyn’s plan. But I don’t for a second think that Benn has got a hope in hell appealing to the new party faithful after his recent disgraceful performance; even if he may be a canny choice for appealing to the electorate at large. He’s set himself up at odds with Corbyn, and for now at least, that’s set him up to fail.

Get a grip Chewkw. We won’t be leaving the EU. Even if there is a clear ‘leave’ mandate delivered in the referendum (which frankly, I’d be gobsmacked at; there’s nothing the UK public like more than inertia) there is clear precedent that what this will actually mean is another round of negotiations and another ‘are you sure you’re sure’ referendum. Only then would it be possible for us to actually leave. Massively unlikely.

No you are wrong

No, I am not.

I did not assert that the CAA were not ‘looking into it’, but, if, as you state, they are looking into the illegal use of unmanned aircraft such as, but not limited to, ‘drones’, then so they bloody should be; it’s in their remit. DOESN’T mean that drones as toys are a thing of the past, quite the opposite.

However, to stay legal, and therefore not attracting the interest of the CAA, all you basically need to do is;

Stay away from people, buildings and aircraft and don’t make money from it

As I said. There are other things, like staying within visual line of sight (common sense if you value your aircraft) and not flying near airfields (BLOODY obviously, although some people are stooooopid). Third party insurance is also sensible (but not legally required, yet) which is available by being a member of the BMFA. Your cover would be void if you were daft enough to do any of the above, however.

Careful but the CAA is monitoring footage and actively seeking to prosecute anyone who violates the regulations regarding drone usage in the UK, get caught you’ll get fined. They’re really starting to clamp down, drones as toys will soon be a thing of the past.

scaremongering. Stay away from people, buildings and aircraft and don’t make money from it, no problems. Issue is only with perceived dangerous use of drones, with a sly streak of protectionism of existing commercial air ops as an underlying theme.

Videos, pics, PLEEEEEEAAAASE!

+1 to build your own; I’ve just built one of these bad boys;

I’d do option 4. Option 2 is probably the most fiscally responsible, but I’m a bit of an ostrich sometimes.

Of course it is not real!

oh yea of little faith. Have you never heard of the south Australian hover snake? (It doesn’t actually hover, it has caterpillar tracks)

Sounds like a recipe for a fractured and divided society.

It ABSOLUTELY can’t be any worse than what we have now…

Done, although I’m not really ‘target audience’ I suspect. Not so much ‘body image’ as ‘body apathy’…

Car and motels FTW. There’s a free magazine you can get in all Denny’s eateries that is basically a token book for the local motels. They give you a good start on which towns are best to aim for next. I’ve done two west coast road trips; first in a car, second on a Harley. Both I didn’t book (or hard plan in) more than the first nights accommodation, just had a loose route that I mostly stuck to. There’s so much distance to cover around there that there’s ALWAYS cheap places to stay. Makes it a proper adventure too.

Basically, from what I understand, it wouldn’t make the blindest bit of difference to anyone who does not receive benefits of any kind, whilst being simpler, fairer and more cost effective for those that do. I’m all for it. Plus, tax reform is LONG overdue in this country; the present system is archaic and difficult (on purpose?) to understand just how much tax you pay.

Again I question whether the public’s values have been misappropriated by the government?

Undoubtedly. Unfortunately, they (media? Government? Shadowy corporations? Makes you think… 😉 ) are getting very, VERY good at this, and the general public remain as unaware of their manipulation as ever. It only really hits home how shockingly calculated and deliberate the misinformation is when the subject is something very close to home.

Far be it from me to suggest that a caution produces far less work for a busy police officer as they don’t have to complete and submit a file to court, and possibly attend court at a later date.

I strongly suspected that this sort of thing may have had something to do with it all… 😕

What we do know though is that Labour per se have NOT become unelectable because of Corbyn; a very strong result in the recent by election proves that. Unfortunately for the AntiCorbs. Happy to accept that a by election and a GE are two different things, but he’s certainly not the rabid vote repeller that the likes of Dragon, Jamby, THM and Ninfan would like to paint him as. To be honest, the longer he survives, the more credible he looks. Seismic ructions within the ranks were always inevitable; we are witnessing a process of a major political party undergoing a fundamental shift. But after all the upheavals he consistently comes out looking like the honest, calm, dignified and principled chap that he promised he would be. He’s made mistakes; I think he underestimated the venom and forcefulness of which he’d be attacked from within his party, even from within his cabinet. But he’s given the right wingers a genuine chance, and they’ve squandered it. There’s no point having a ‘broad church’ if the different denominations are going to try to stab each other at every opportunity. He can now continue the realignment of the party with a clear conscience.

where are you that a DS is managing the investigation into an ABH? Unless it was originally recorded as a GBH?

originally recorded as section 47 malicious wounding. DC investigating, DS supervising. Spoke to DS as DC was not available. Ta for input, she mentioned something about a cautioning matrix.

Thanks for all the comments. All really appreciated, but actually some really useful stuff been said here, with special mentions to IRC, Siwhite and Crankboy for their useful links and knowledgable input. All will be used to push the ambo service ‘Zero Tolerance’ policy with a surprisingly reluctant Detective Sergeant, who was definitely minded to go with a conditional caution, with the condition being that the offender attend a ‘victim impact’ course. Personally I didn’t feel that that fitted the crime, although I appreciate that views will differ.

(Hypothetically speaking, of course)

STW, pat yourselves on the back. You’ve been really helpful, yet again. 8) 8)

Edit;

Oh, and if we’re talking legalities, it’s essential service, not emergency service.

Now, this is an oft repeated ‘fact’ within ambulance services, and I dare say it was true once upon a time (it must have come from somewhere), but I’m not really sure it’s true any more. Certainly Ambulance Service workers are referred to as ’emergency workers’ in recent legislation, and in major incident planning they are category 1 responders. I’d be interested to know the origins of this ‘essential service vs emergency service’ thing, and whether it is a) still the case, and b) actually means anything at all.

Anyone?

Your post made it sound like it was coming from the side of the guy swinging the fists . You have no input and probably wait and see?

Apologies. I’m trying to be a bit careful, so that may have tainted it a bit. FWIW, I’ve already had a fair bit of influence, albeit in a slightly nagging, cajoling sort of way. It was going to definitely be a ‘conditional caution’, and now it’s only maybe going to be one, apparently. Hypothetically. PC Wheeler, I wish you worked in the Police Service I’m dealing with. It’s fairly evident that you don’t! 😉

(Hypothetically)

Irc; who should grab it with both hands? My hypothetical mate is the injured party, for clarification. I have zero interest in going easy on the assailant.

The assaulted paramedic has little say in what the police/CPS decide.

Still awaiting a charging decision, with a strong indication that a ‘conditional caution’ will be the outcome. Apparently he’s ‘really sorry’.

Edit; hypothetically of course.

Okay. So can anybody tell me about such things as ‘conditional cautions’. I’ve never heard of them before. But I’m fairly sure they don’t class as a conviction of any kind.

Nowt serious just in need of surgery?

Fair point. Paramedic ‘serious’ and general public ‘serious’ mismatch there! When I say nowt serious, I mean not life threatening or in need of ongoing hospital in patient care, I suppose.

influence of alcohol…

several of the hypothetical witnesses are at pains to point out that the gentleman was not slurring and well coordinated throughout.

It still remains on the outside of the river bank, against the flow.

in fairness, fixing that would cost a tad more than a £100,000 charitable donation… Need to call in these guys!

Five months later; I’m healed up nicely and back to a full range of activities, and have been for several months. No ill effects, other than a fairly brutal scar, if you’re worried about such things. Skin below scar itches a bit too, sometimes. I assume this is to do with regenerating nerves. I won’t be getting metalwork removed unless it causes me grief, and no sign of that so far. I’m SO happy to be fundamentally the same shape as before my crunch.

I would heartily reccomend pushing for early surgical intervention in cases similar to mine, although obviously YMMV.

So much this^ I love the NHS but it seems very backward in this particular area. It seems to consider a functional malunion as an acceptable clinical outcome, where elsewhere it obviously isn’t. I found all of this out in the two days between my fracture and my first fracture clinic appointment fortunately, and was forwarned. If I hadn’t been so certain of what I wanted, I would have been left ‘to see how it goes’ probably with poorer clinical outcome as a result. I’ll post a link to my thread from the time, if any one is interested;

linky

Would someone need to go with him to A&E if the necessary history had been relayed to the paramedics.

this is what happens, frequently, but is suboptimal. It lets errors creep into the history (see; Chinese whispers) and it is not good practice to base clinical decisions on a handover, however competent. You’ve not mentioned a son before; where does he fit in to the story? (We shall call him ‘Y’ 😉 )

Edit; yes you did; apologies. Post night fug

Edit; sounds like Rusty Spanner is an EXCELLENT care worker from a decent R/H. He is a rarity, cherish him, nurture him, pay him moar!

Ambo bod here. We try our level best to get R/H to send an escort, for reasons eloquently set out above. Some don’t, citing staffing or whatever. We/the hospital can and do manage without a carer who knows the patient, but it’s much harder. Understanding what is ‘normal’ for the patient when the patient is in no position to explain means that the patient would often have a longer stay and receive more invasive assessments as a result.

As for who is ‘responsible’ for care; when the ambo takes over in the home, they are. When the patient is handed over at hospital, the hospital becomes responsible. This doesn’t mean that sending a carer is not the right thing to do, though.

Is this the Hunt you are talking about … ?

In fairness, that’s a typical press misrepresentation of a very good idea (that certainly wasn’t Jeremy *unts) but unfortunately LAS are very, very broken. It’s working well in my Trust and evidence is pointing to it having a noticeable improvement on outcomes. The crux of the idea is that in cases where the patient is conscious (very first question) it’s probably worth finding out what’s actually wrong with them before we send a car and a truck careering across a city to a stubbed toe…

Doesn’t mean Hunt is not a complete **** though.

I am under zero obligation to justify anything

This much is exceedingly obvious. You seem to get opinion and fact confused quite regularly.

Nah you’re not. The bone won’t fully remodel for months / years.

okay. Bone mass can be close to normal in screw holes by around 18 weeks. Sensible medical advice is to resume ‘athletic activity’ at around 4 months post pin removal. So not 2-3 weeks. Bad advice.

I think it sounds like bad luck but also possibly bad advice; 2-3weeks to go back to front line duties is bonkers optimistic for a front line police officer, but would probably be fine for most jobs. I don’t think many people understand quite how potentially physical the duties of a street bobby can be. You’re basically waiting for bone to fill the voids left by the metalwork; 6-8 weeks would seem more sensible.