Maybe people on here are finally sick of being **** ghouls

I very much doubt that.

Although discussions on current affairs on a chat forum is hardly controversial.

I like some of her stuff, BUT – don’t you think it’s bloody refreshing to have a singer who’s made it WITHOUT showing young kids the way to success is to cover yourself in fake tan and have your tits and arse hanging out?

I like it when you read a thread and some one says exactly what you’re thinking to sae you the typing.

OP; 10-4, dinosaur 😉

Same with the sugar tax – what happened to being personally responsible for my own actions and opinions?

😂😂😂 take a look around at your fellow UK citizens. ‘Taking personal responsibility’ CLEARLY is not working, for a variety of obvious and more subtle reasons.

Still, feel free to stick it to the man with your full fat coke protest. Your teeth, your islets of langerhans. Your dentist will love you 😎👍🏼

12/24; I’m outta here! (If only😏)

**** insular inward looking little Britain with the loonies in charge of the asylum. I genuinely worry for my kids.

That was nice; liked how it all fitted together without fastenings. Seemed a lot of work for crossing a brook that you could step over though. Wonder how long it will last before rotting?

Will I die?

Categorically, yes. It’s only a matter of time.

Yep, at least 200 types of virus we call the “common cold”.

Four of which are existing corona viruses which are already endemic in the genpop. And cause respiratory symptoms, mostly cold like but occasionally more severe, especially in the old, weak, immumocompromised, etc. This is just a new one so we as a species are yet to build up a herd immunity to it, which is why we are seeing a mortality spike.

Nothing new under the sun. An understandable worry if you have young/elderly/infirm loved ones, but not the ‘sneezebola’ that the media seem to want to portray it as.

Don’t count on there being a vaccine for this one any time soon.

A chap* was on R4 yesterday saying that they had isolated the necessary genetic material (in record time) from novel coronavirus already and were about to move on to animal testing. Suggested that that stage would be complete within a few weeks, but the human certification process will take months. Seemed confident that a vaccine would be available next year.

*Oxbridge boffiny type. Seemed legit. Was only half listening, sorry.

Edit; bit o’googling and I reckon it was a spokesperson from this bunch;

http://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2020-02-07-oxford-team-begin-novel-coronavirus-vaccine-research#

And don’t worry about raping the planet. With three kids you obviously don’t anyway.

😂😂😂 brilliant!

Dr Li Wenliang was 34

Yeah, he was, y’know, helped along a bit… [\tinfoil hat]

The £500 road tax and 24mpg was a bit spicy though.

Definitely go Navara then; less than half the tax and an extra 5mpg balances out well against a slightly choppier ride and a bit less interior space 😳😂

I don’t believe for a minute the official Chinese figure of 5% mortality, figures of 20% are leaking out.

Utter nonsense and daily mailesque levels of scaremongering. Have a word with yourself. 😉

True infection rates are very hard to grasp and depend on self presenting patients, accurate tests, good admin and a truthful government. Mortality numbers are far easier to establish for obvious reasons. Hundreds of thousands of low acuity infections are reasonable to assume given the relatively low mortality of those unwell enough to require hospital admission. This means that the actual mortality rate will be even lower than currently being reported by eager for drama media.

There is lots to learn about this virus but so far it seems only a little more nasty than flu in severity, with it’s dangerousness coming mainly from how easily it appears to spread. I can’t help but think that given the numbers of people arriving in the UK having travelled in close proximity to 2-300 other in a recirculated air pressurised cylinder for several hours from affected parts of the globe, we should probably switch from efforts to contain, to efforts to increase bed capacity in the NHS by about 30-50%, because as it stands, UK hospitals Will. Not. Cope. with a mass influx of poorly people, an order of magnitude higher than normal winter pressures.

Left field thought; slightly different but comparable situation here, 3x 8-9yos all on boosters. We have a Navara as our family people mover, as the huge, versatile load bay suits our purposes too. No issues with width of the rear seat with three bog standard width booster seats. Also a great MTB vehicle, second only to a lwb crew van, and loads less soul destroying to own than a people carrier.

Multiple groups have estimated the number of cases is doubling every five to seven days.

This is surely good news though, in a way. It suggests that whilst it seems to spread like wildfire, only a small proportion of people get ill enough to come to the attention of the authorities, and still fewer actually die. So very spready, not very killy. Like colds and flu, really. And next year there’ll be a vaccine.

I am now the proud/slight embarrassed owner of a £5K Nissan Leaf

That’s a bargain. They look a bit 😝 but they drive 🤩… smashing bits of kit.

imposing arbitrary household rules on others.

His house, his rules. Seems reasonable. Otherwise where do you draw the line? Some kids that age smoke; is that okay? Maybe they’d expect you to provide the fags, as that’s what their parents do. You gonna pop to the shop for them?

Also, the rules in question are hardly onerous. If you come over to socialise, be bloody sociable, don’t stare at a screen the whole time.

FWIW, I fully expect a hardening of opinion about the (mental)health implications of excessive smart phone useage in kids, and even adults within 10-15 years. It’s fairly obvious that there is some very clever/sinister technology that isn’t good for young (or my) brain.

Agree re waze. It’s not as good as it used to be but it still helps loads, in more ways than just guiding you to a destination. I often have it on even on regular journeys.

Your roof, your rules.

Food fussiness is par for the course I suppose, but regarding electronic devices, I don’t think they’ve been part of our way of life for long enough for there to be any societal norms that are accepted by the majority of people, which is where the friction occurs. It’s surreal to me that parents don’t strictly control such a potentially harmful item, but someone else will be thinking the exact opposite, and plenty more people somewhere in between. We haven’t yet reached consensus point on electronic etiquette.

@houns that looks lush. Is it Button Oak?

this forum is a bloody oasis most of the time when you look at (anti)social media.in general.

Nothing is perfect, but this, I agree with. Look how quickly gung ho I’ll thought out opinions are intelligently challenged, for instance.

off to hoover up every bag of twiglets I can find so I can munch away on them whilst watching the end of the world.

Fair point <scurries off to buy a load of Jerk Chicken flavour sensations crisps>

CDC have just quarantined 200 people, the first time they have ever carried out an enforced quarantine in 50 years

And the U.K. has done the same(ish) with its 80odd repatriates. And a jolly sensible thing to do it is too, when you are bringing people back from ground zero of a new virus; I can’t really see how they could have done anything else, given that the repatriation was a political rather than a science based decision.

Hopefully, you are right and the infectivity rate is low and the data is being skewed.

I’m not right or wrong, I’m just saying let’s wait and see, it’s not quite time to fight over the last loaf of Warburtons toastie at the Co-Op just yet.

And if 19 million were infected were infected in the US with Coronavirus countzero, with the current estimated mortality – 380000 would be dead.

Let’s not get too excited just yet. 19 million people diagnosed with ‘flu’? That’s 6% of the population; I find it to be an iffy statistic.

Upper end estimates of coronvirus infection in Wuhan are suggestive of around 75,000 cases (only 10,000 cases declared worldwide, so far) which would be around 0.7% of a dense population that is at ground zero, with no precautions being taken because they didn’t know about it. It is very unlikely to reach that infection density worldwide I would think.

19 million people have been diagnosed with flu

I’d be asking just how they were ‘diagnosed’ with this statistic.

Maybe if you’re dying the last thing on your mind is “I wonder if my will is up to date”

It’s been my experience with dying people that ‘putting their affairs in order’ is actually quite high on their list of priorities.

Majority of people can just charge overnight every few days

Just plug it in whenever you get home. Timer set for stupid cheap rate midnight – 4am-ish. Job jobbed; it’s really not a hard concept. Who would need a 500 mile fuel tank if you had a petrol station (or even a refinery, as an analogy for those lucky enough to have solar panels) on your drive?

How many people need 7 days battery life on their mobiles ‘just in case they go on holiday and there are no convenient plugs?’

Still with the obsession about charging points. Who does more than 150-200 miles a day regularly without returning to home?

You sir?

Get a diesel.

The rest of us?

An EV suits, unless you can’t charge at home. In which case get a little petrol car, an EV would be a faff.

(I’d like an estate too, mind you, or even better, a pickup that doesn’t look like it’s straight out of an 80’s arcade game)

People who are considering an electric car need to get out of this obsession with public charging points. We’ve had a new shape Nissan Leaf for over a year and 20,000 miles now, and have used a public charging point TWICE. Once because it was a novelty and free at Tesco (and a good parking spot) and once at IKEA again for novelty value, because we didn’t need it for range. You plug the car in at night people; it’s always full in the morning, and unless you’re one of the 1%ers that drive LOTS a day (get a diesel car, it’s okay. They are designed for you) or doing one of your 1% long ass journeys (get a coffee) then you simply won’t routinely NEED public charging. We live semi rural, have family around an hour away that we see regularly and longish commutes and school runs (32mile round trip and 44mile round trip respectively).

Honestly, one of the very BEST things about an EV is never having to go to a petrol station again.

Think of it like your phone. It’s only if you hammer it or if your battery is knackered that you ever need to charge it during the day. If that’s the case, you need a different phone, not a petrol powered one.

Edit; and if you can’t charge at home, don’t get an electric car. They aren’t for you yet.

Have any of my fellow newly medicated peeps noticed an effect on cardio performance? I regularly run a 5k route and have found that I’m 3-4 mins slower post meds now. I’m trying not to let this bother me but it is somewhat demotivating, which is counterproductive with the whole health thing, tbh. Still, my BP is definitely healthier.

Isn’t that exactly what Apple do?

I followed a delorean through our village the other day. It wasn’t doing 88mph.

Compressing the gas does release heat (rather than “generating” it).

What’s your understanding of the word ‘generate’ then? I think it means something different to ‘create’ which is the inference you appear to be objecting to. An electricity generator doesn’t ‘make’ electricity from nothing, it converts chemical energy into kinetic energy into electrical potential energy. Strikes me that the word ‘generate’ kinda works in the learned professor’s context?

I think your argument has more merit when it comes to ‘generating cold’ as cold is an absence of heat, but it’s a little pedantic 😏

Just been reading up on the Ticwatch Pro.

These look nice. Anyone got one?

After some teething issues with the app I’m now happy to (in STW stylee) recommend the combo I use, which is a wahoo tickr strap combined with the wahoo app. Works great on iPhone and uploads to Strava with one click at the end of the ride or run. Just make sure the GPS has acquired your position before you hit start as it doesn’t seem to be able to do it after the go button has been pressed. Grrr

Have sent details to our Press office today @drac. Next edition this Thursday 👍🏼

It’s not unique. Politics is not fact based, nor is nationality (beyond the trivial), race or gender politics. Or social conservatism.

Yes, but the uniqueness comes from the protection and ‘special status’ that is conferred upon religiously based opinion though. No one is going to excuse bigotry or insidious discrimination based upon which political doctrine they happen to support, but as soon as it’s based on religion, it becomes more legitimate. It will still get criticised,but that criticism in turn becomes open to counter criticism as ‘religious intolerance’ ‘islamophobia’ ‘antisemitism’ etc.

An awful lot of criticism that would be entirely justifiable if it’s target were based on a purely political ideology gets neutralised by the protection afforded by religious legitimacy.

In the UK everytime someone attempts to move the legislation towards this the outcry from organised religious groups

Yup, see; the incredible demonisation of the Liverpool Care Pathway when the worried Christian middle Englanders became (mis)informed of its existence. Absolute travesty that set palliative care back decades in this country.

This is spot on.

It’s inarguably true; however further than that, the problem with religion is that as it is, by definition, based wholly upon articles of faith rather than fact, it is uniquely vulnerable to being ‘interpreted’ any which way people want.

This combined with the unique sureness in their own righteousness that religion instils in people makes it a potential, as well as often a very real force for bad.

Have to say… whatever religious background Chewkw is from it sounds a hell of a lot more sensible and pragmatic than a lot of western Abrahamic religions.

Re the ‘religiousness’ of various festivals; you may as well argue the origins of chickens and eggs; the truth is complex and multi factorial, without solid evidence either way and therefore lends itself to being hijacked to ‘prove’ the point of either position.