DrJ – Member
I think you’ll find that’s Communism.
I think you’ll find a large whooshing noise above your head

To be a pedant, it’s Socialism, but yeah… Whoosh!

Just think of the income tax take on those astronomical consultancy fees though..
Not being offshored in the Caymans, honest mate

The thing about capitalism, you soon run out of other people’s money.

Que “parts darts” thread…

And in other news… Strong and stable Government

Cupid Stunt?

I used to nick my mates car and take it for an evening raz around Bolton and environs, Bitd, when all ford keys fit all fords.
I used to park it up in the same place as it came from, or for devilment, in the next street

Nahh, Old Swan would show em a trick or two ;)

The last TT I had in the house for mixing before I went fully digital /controller was, and don’t laugh now, Numark direct drive, it just did the job solidly and sounded great. Some of my last vinyl rips were done on that deck, and a couple of DJ’s I know have copied them after wearing out their vinyl

You do surprise me, Vestax were sold on their scratch ability credentials, most stuff I’ve used of theirs has been solid kit, but admit it must be 10 years since I’ve used a Vestax TT

Where would we be without China for a start?

And where would China be without child slave labour mining minerals in Africa…

Nowt wrong with Vestax IMHO

I name mine “GMP mobile covert surveillance unit” to put the shits up the scrotes

All of them ? Most Tories I know haven’t inherited anything as their parents are still alive.
Grandparents? Great grandparents?

Pointless banging head against a wall, Mol, the concept of privilege and nurtured mindsets is lost on this one…

I’ve entered an alternate universe….

And today on vox political

In 2002, a secret Liberal Democrat document came to light – produced by the Association of Liberal Democrat Councillors – in which local activists were urged to “be wicked, act shamelessly, stir endlessly” in order to win elections.

Though I’d like to see proof of such a document

I’ll never eat a tunnocks for entirely different reasons.

Tory donating ****

As TJ says, its background noise, and is hard to recognise as such, so is its all encompassing pervasiveness

Christians can’t enforce their views on LGBT etc on anyone. The most they can do is tut loudly or have a passive aggressive prayer meeting nearby.

Or create pressure groups, or get people of their ilk in to high ranking political positions, or just tie black people to burning crosses

Torquemada? The Crusades? The Moral Majority? Mary Whitehouse?

Or, hows about engaging the 34% of registered voters who felt so disenfranchised they didnt bother to vote?

nope

Hitler was more centrist if i recall…

And its laughable that Corbyn is described has “Hard Left”

Labour are about level with the Greens IMH, and Corbyn is espousing some our (Green Party)best policies

Exactly. Millibands Labour took the old Liberal ground, Liberal edged towards conservatism…

And that just shows how far to the Right politics has shifted since 1997, Cranbery

it seems the entire Labour leadership is such disarray that they are not presenting an effective opposition.

How can you genuinely believe this?
During the Coalition, with Milliband, granted, there was very little opposition, lots of abstinence and lots of voting in favour.

Since Corbyn, although granted this is one of the weakest most shambolic Conservative governments i’ve borne witness to, there have been countless reversals in tory policy and budgets. Just watch PMQ’s on wednesday and Corbyn has May on the ropes every time, May’s tactic is evasion and sly personal digs and scripted one liners.
This is from 2016
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tory-conservative-u-turns-policies-david-cameron-benefit-cuts-junior-doctors-academies-a7018276.html

We collectively didn’t engage enough in politics is how

I’d love one of the political parties to give a true unfudged figure of the actual unemployment rate of able bodied /minded adults, then maybe we could deal with it in a grown up fashion without finger pointing and name calling

Mefty, it doesn’t change the fact that Faron is a rampant homophobe though…

Corbs has been ahead of the curve on just about everything..

And we called George Osborne “Omnishambles”

Pensions, in work benefits and housing benefit, I can think of easy ways if politically unpalatable to cut the bill of the last 2, I’d say the bill for the first needs to increase…

90billion on welfare, and the lions share of that is paying housing benefits.
The way to control that is rent caps and affordable social housing, but how many times has Phillip Davies fillibustered debate for housing reform? Remind me again of the political allegiance of the Rentier class?

Frank, you asked for evidence, I provided evidence.
The Government admit to 61 deaths directly linked to welfare reforms, where as Callums list say 4000 could be welfare reforms being the major contributing factor, and a lot more, up to 81000 where benefits reforms were a in the mix of an already potent brew, such as your examples.

Not all are suicides, some in the government 61 deaths are the David Clapson type deaths, where sanctions lead to his electricity running out, ruining his insulin in the fridge, combined with the meagre contents edible in the now defunct fridge, a tin of fish if I recall. Found dead though keto acidosis with said tin of fish, a few teabags, and a stack of just completed CV’s by his body.

His sister has started a private prosecution against Ian Duncan Smith for corporate manslaughter, and I’m proud to have contributed financially to bring about that action.

https://www.crowdjustice.org/case/david-clapson/

http://calumslist.org

4000 plus reasons not to vote Tory on http://calumslist.org damaging the middle class? Get bent

I hope this is more than a wake up call for the need for moderates to get into politics as their failure to turn up coupled with the undemocratic FPTP system has allowed extremist elements to take over this country.

This.