Shorts day it was most definitely called at my then 11 year olds primary school and at the same time, my pal who’s son he felt was being ‘molycoddled’ the pal being an ex para military sort and probably co source of boys being dumbed down intel. There was no competition, it was all teams and no winners, no losers, sorry a fact, along with the no sheath knives no axes scouts thing. Conkers however were not banned and girls and boys played equally, but I gather elsewhere were not as lucky.

This is red herringing and you appear to have your dereks crossed, my real name isn’t derek, nor ever has been.

Think I’m leaving this now, not looking for accusations of troll or a thought crime ban.

yunki – Member
what are these restrictions?

Well the obvious one is that which is under discussion, wether or not ‘they’ get to roam free, as to the rest, quite honestly the only ones that spring to mind were the boy scouts since that body I always felt brought a controlled sense of adventure to that age group, with the chopping down trees, building fires and general scout craft which believe me is lost these days as a young man of my acquaintance a scout leader frequently points out to me.

Conkers? Did I not read they can’t play conkers. Then Sports Day? It was called Shorts Day and there were no winners and losers, that’ll really set you up for life.

GrahamS – Member
that doesn’t mean the male of the species should be deliberately dumbed down to equal them, which is my point.
So to you equality means dumbing down boys to level of girls?

Wow!

No it means that just because we offer equal opportunity to all, that ‘opportunity’ should not be over restricted with cotton wool.

GrahamS – Member
that doesn’t mean the male of the species should be deliberately dumbed down to equal them, which is my point.
Wow!

So? Are you not suggesting that young lads of today do not experience greater restrictions as a result? Even though it is also true more adventurous would be axe wielding girlies are also swept up in the same trap?

convert – Member
Which kind of makes my point about the er ‘quality’ of todays ball free boys…
OK, I’m going to say it – you sound like a bellend. I pity your poor repressed 18yr old daughter who has such a plonker for a father.

I’m sure my ‘repressed’ daughter would fully agree on the bellend comment, but that is not the point I’m making. I’ve brought up four daughters, they all windsurf, mountain bike, can snowboard rings round most of their contemporarys, but that doesn’t mean the male of the species should be deliberately dumbed down to equal them, which is my point.

Whichever way you play it, boys and girls are not the same, were never supposed to be the same and other than a few, don’t actually want to be the same. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be given every opportunity to do what the **** they like, but not letting boys sort out their own differences doesn’t exactly prepare them for the realities of life further down the path, nor preventing them playing with knives, axes under supervision (reference here to Boy Scouts banning sheath knives and the carrying of hand axes)and all manner of other ridiculous supervisory limitations that have come to pass down the years.

And back on topic whilst it was a tragedy that will have wreaked a terrible effect on the parents I would not add to that grief by holier than thou protestations of better parenting authority buoyed up by this ludicrous pc climate we now find ourselves in.

NIce pick, my really good school pal drove one of those can remember many an adventure, seem to recall a bench front seat and column shift or maybe that was another mates Ford Consul.

codybrennan – Member
My girls (2 of them) do about 99% of the things that boys do, and the rest they just discard because they’re too sensible.

Which kind of makes my point about the er ‘quality’ of todays ball free boys…

And do you know what, the girls of course have total respect for the weeners city boys, soccer divers, emotional ‘retards’ and other blubberers from Gazza down.

convert – Member
that boys are different
Why do you feel this?

Permit me to correct..

Boys should be different, I realise in this day and age of PC blundering, molycoddling, no blame, no bullying, and certainly no risk taking, we are selectively breeding away the little ball bits…

And as to the incident it was a tragic accident, fate, it could have happened right outside the house, or even from falling out of his bedroom window, it was written that’s it.

I got one of those monster waterproof ones, a bit heavy but it does cut down on the number of calls you receive.

Don’t even like my 18 yr old daughter going out now, but did remark to Mrs Lannister after the news, that boys are different and it’s a shame the idea of a seven year old out playing so far from home is bound to be frowned on by the mollycoddlers these days and there will be some serious tutting and handwringing, but…

At that age I’d catch a bus five miles to school and when it went on strike I cycled, I’d also spend all day away playing and we had bomb sites, much more fun.

Winter is coming.

Like everyone else we only started buying toilet rolls and none branded stuff, but as time as passed pretty much try and buy everything there, the Norpack butter, the chocolate, the wine, even some beer, the meat, fish, seafood, veg all fine and half the price of Waitrose, the other store in town. Only snag the council charge to park so you risk a ticket, whereas in the next town Lidl is free.

However you do have to work around the six fingered banjo players with their two headed kids up from the Marsh and it is a bit low light depressing as CG so aptly puts it, but sinking your teeth into their eating liquorice puts that all behind you.

Oh and did I mention their chocolate with hazlenuts in it? Thing of the past now thanks to the dietfest.

Went to the vet yesterday, booked in to go again in 4 weeks, if between then and now he has another ‘turn’ they will do blood tests.

We’re not sure, think it was also similar weather conditions, low pressure rain, lightning which was our first thoughts it was a few months back now and we hadn’t really thought much more about it, I’m trying to remember wether we’d bleached anything then but it was so long back, we’ve really no idea.

I’m pretty sure I’ve found out what caused it. In his morning enthusiasm, he often wanders into the shower to hurry me up in the morning, now he didn’t this day, beause I’d locked the door whilst I bleached some of the tiles, that had gotten a bit mouldy it being saturday with no rush for work.

Now I didn’t see him go in there, but he must have doubled back to find me, gone in sniffed about and got a dose of bleach fumes before the mrs went in, I’d warned her, but there’s no warning him of course it’s got to be that, too much of a co incidence.

it set him off retching and the rest is history, got to be that.

Must be more careful in future, we tend to take all the household products we use for granted bu it can be devastating for pets, we don’t use weedkiller in the garden for precisely this reason, I feel awful now, it’s totally my fault, I’m such a careless ****, can’t tell you how bad I feel now.

Surely if more than 1000 folk try to enter a country against the will of that country isn’t that technically an invasion?

= Army.

Hmm, not too happy about giving him drugs just yet, don’t give myself drugs if I can possibly avoid it so I think I’m going to go down the hollistic/homeopathic route, having read a bit since posting this, lots of stories all coming up idiopathic (cause unknown) diagnoses, this is only the 2nd time it’s happened, the first time my daughter witnessed it and to be honest we didn’t entirely believe her due to her oft dramatic over reaction to things like spiders in her room.

So I’m due to revisit the vets in 4 weeks time and if he has another, likely it’ll be drugs, but until then I think it’ll be stuff like vaccinium, omega-3 and 6 fatty acids and vary the diet a bit, can’t be altogether sure of the crap companies put in dog food.

No kids and yes we’ll be careful.

What’s the story with epilepsy tablets how many how often and how much, just visiting the vet costs 80 quid these days..

Things are compounded here by the War & Peace show, so the A20 is packed with Military Vehicles, things usually get sorted over the weekend because ‘they’ go back to work for double time. But the people smugglers have found a new way to launch migrants onto the empty freight cars, so there’s been a couple of big rushes which have shut it down, ferry is probably the most reliable route to France right now.

M2 – A2 works.

In a word, you’re pretty much ****, if you must, use the M2, A2. The way this thing works, the French strike Tuesday to Friday, during which period they assist would be migrants to enter the tunnel, in exchange for tyre burning services which the french police who are in the same union turn a blind eye to. Then over the weekend, for which they are paid double time, they work normally which clears the backlog, they seem also to be working monday, not sure why, but by doing this they get to earn a five day weeks money whilst screwing us over.

They hate the English in case you were wondering.

Bolli the builder said “And I would dispute that it was “mild questioning”, I thought it was quite aggressive. I would also dispute that he lost the plot – I thought he stuck to the plot quite well.”

And we agree again, that Forgethisnameon C4 has been trying to be the tough guy and failing ever since Paxman hung up his hat, I also thought it was refreshing, him and that absolute other nob end on C4 make me puke.

Mrs Lanister drives one, in fact she’s just been shafted by another mini service where they drop her up the outlet to do a bit of shopping, then ring me to give me the bad news, (discs are .01mm undersize so need replacing) I tell them to foxtrot oscar and when she gets back they are all huffy with her and she has no idea why.
But other than don’t get conned by their smarmy service, it’s a steady enough vehicle, we can get Milo in the back have had five adults, it’s a mini so don’t expect cavernous luggage space but it pootles along nicely, you can chuck it about should the mood dictate and it’s not too uncomfortable on a long journey.

I can even reach the pedals and see over the steering wheel.

He’s getting a lot of coverage right now and the bloody media ar having it away with him which does beg the question do they think, (tinfoil conspiracy)being right wing b’stards, that by getting him elected it’ll help keep the Tories in power forever? I seriously think they may have misjudged the mood, he’s a serious guy, no doubt a conviction politician the like of which we haven’t seen for a long time, lots more like him than they realise and this continual slamming the poor, disabled is going to eventually bite them in their collective butts.

GrahamS – Member
You are a strange (half)man Lannister.

…it is now frequently asked of me for identification purposes since I clearly engage in more activities which require its use…
Sorry – I’m confused. If these activities “require its use” and you don’t have one then how exactly are you engaging in them??

Passports do not carry your address per se
But you know what does carry your address?

Your old paper licence!

So really the only additional concern with the photo licence is that if you hand it to someone then they will know what you look like.

And you are a strange (half) wit GrahamS, is obfuscation a pre requisite for software code construction? Or did your grey matter catch a ‘bug’?

You must have missed this

More discussion here

I really think he’d do a good job, we’ve been ready for a leftish trending government for a long time now, we voted left in 97 and got right hence the trend of not to bother anyway.

One thing they are all missing is the Green vote, oceans filling with plastic bags, big money in pointless wind projects half of which cost more to start up electrically than they generate, propping up oil for all the wrong reasons (BP a big donor and mate of Blair), if they did nothing more than offer a sensible set of progressive green policys a lot of us would return to the fold. Nationalising Utilities & Transport is in everyones interest, but so is looking after the planet ffs yet nobody seems to be concerned about that in the Labour movement.

squirrelking – Member
It’s got your birth date, your picture, your address, how much more ID is there? Even your passport doesn’t carry that much intel.
So really, you’re annoyed that your photo drivers licence has the address on it? Something that your ratty old paper copy has as well. Passports carry everything but that plus a whole lot more.

No, I’m ‘annoyed’, which isn’t the term I’d use, since ambivalence would be more accurate, to the fact that a photo and regular fee payment is now required and it is now frequently asked of me for identification purposes since I clearly engage in more activities which require its use as such than the average cycle forum keyboard warrior and have clearly enjoyed greater freedoms in my time on this mortal coil than most here, so object to them being eroded.

Passports do not carry your address per se although you may give the address of someone to contact in the event of your demise I seem to recall.

Well I must say, Ernest my champagne sipping constructioniere, I totally agree with all that, surprising as it may seem.

scotroutes – Member
It’s no more an ID card than a statement from your bank or a bill from a utility supplier.

Don’t get out much do you chap?

It’s got your birth date, your picture, your address, how much more ID is there? Even your passport doesn’t carry that much intel.

scotroutes – Member
tyrionl1 » Got asked for it only yesterday, some solar panel salesman wanting it, very disappointed when i showed him the paper one.
OK, I’ll bite. Why would a solar panel salesman want to to see your driving licence?

I’ve no idea, something to do with the Feed In Tarriff maybe, identity confirmation, anti money laundering, any number of reasons, haven’t tried to set up many bank accounts or entered any financial agreements lately I guess, it’s an ID card, no question of it another erosion of civil liberty and I gather you get charged to renew it very so often, I don’t know this since I refuse to have one, but I heard that.

GrahamS – Member
Really? So you what, (going to guess here,) live your entire life in front of a computer?
I’m a software engineer, so yeah I do. Though I currently work from a serviced office so I do have to put my pants on these days.

Presumably because you don’t have a photocard you can’t do all those things that apparently require it like… erm…?

How do you live?
Got asked for it only yesterday, some solar panel salesman wanting it, very disappointed when i showed him the paper one.

How do I live? A long time ago on a planet far far away from software engineer world, that’s for sure.

At my height, i also need it to get served in bars.

GrahamS – Member
smacked a bit of ID cards by the back door which of course they now are.
Are they? Can’t say I’ve ever been asked to produce mine.

Really? So you what, (going to guess here,) live your entire life in front of a computer?

Do you bother to get dressed in the morning?

Please tell me you’re not typing your response naked.

I get to eat Jaffa Cakes as part of my diet, so they’re especially cool.

Passed my Bike test in ’64, driving a year later ’65, still got the red license, but it was sadly replaced by a green paper one which is currently held together with selotape and causes much confusion renting cars overseas.

Never really agreed to the idea of photos on drivers licenses, smacked a bit of ID cards by the back door which of course they now are.

Thank you for the link to the Highway Code, I do have one now, those nice people on the anger management speed awareness course gave me one, they not being happy at my bath chair travelling at 33 mph through Southampton.

Edit for cougar, the huge numbers were the rest of us post war baby boomers, lots of us still about refusing to grow old gracefully.

The sad thing.. I don’t even know or remember when it changed.

Shouldn’t they have sent us all a new Highway Code? This 1947 edition is getting dogeared.. 😉

D0NK – Member
And huge numbers (like me) were taught…..
<insert futurama gif here>can’t tell if trolling or stupid.
(I guess “taught” by stupid teachers is a third option)

I think that mission critical thing might be about to change with Apple Pay..

As to their profits, can’t say I’m unhappy about it, I’ve been a sucker for everything Apple since the day they hitched a Mac Classic up to an electronic typesetter, battled the PC World all through the Gil Amelio years watched as Silicon Glen gave them all the ideas prior to that. Anyone remember Apricot?

Sandwich – Member
30 years in it’s still good in the Sandwich household. (Next Wednesday is the day). We must be a reasonable example as my daughter wants to emulate us.
Stockholm syndrome is a powerful thing.

😆 Quality assessment 😆

Stockholm syndrome, that is exactly what it is, 30 yrs also just gone (june 29th 1985 was black friday)

well done on yours. I’m still battling it out at the foot of the food chain with the dog. Argue every single day, today she decides to hoover the breakfast area at 7.45 am is she mental? Aren’t they all? It’s the lack of logic that keeps you wondering, like a Sudoku puzzle you can’t solve because someone deliberately set it up wrong in the first place.

D0NK – Member
Huge numbers of peple don’t know the limit.
and huge numbers know but don’t care, differentiating between the two will be tricky.

And huge numbers (like me) were taught it meant end of speed restriction and haven’t paid much attention to highway codes nor any other BS since. Except that bit where they made us wear helmets on m/bikes and came out with that godawful machine they stuck in your mouth to tell if you’d been drinking too much.

Talking of BBC and new stuff, I’m looking forward to this, I so hope they don’t **** it up.

The Last Kingdom

The books were/are epic.

Even the use of the word Anarchy, ingrained into everyone from birth as a ‘bad’ word when really it simply means the desire not to be governed by a ‘state’ corrupt or otherwise. To be profited from, to be used as an excuse to invade others and profit from them, to be used as lathe turners, canon fodder, call centre automatons to enrich the man.

The trick is knowing that there could be something so much better

Then fight for it.

That’s when you get a revolution.