Now testing the Charge up time but suspect it will take about 6 hours 30 minutes
its real hard watching the red light dont know if I will stay awake

OK times up
it would seem my calcs are not too far out as the battery protection kicked in at 6 volts which is sound and what is to be expected as the cells dont like to go below 3 volts each .

total runtime was 4 hours 38 minutes on the level three or Hi as I have called it

so it would be fair to go for the other approx run times .

I have Spoken to Smudge and he did just quote the Manufacturers blurb and he is going to email them and point out their wrong calculations .

having said that they are still pretty good runtimes for the light output .
one thing not to forget though is the runtimes will be quite a bit shorter when the temp drops to freezing and below and could be 20% less when the battery is very cold .

:twisted:

Blue light on at 2 hrs 15 mins

time seems to have gone into slow motion
2 hours in and battery at 7.3 volts

Battery started at 8.4 volts. And one hour in its 7.7 volts

Boost dimming is heat protection as there is no way a light this small can keep cool at the higher drive currents

There the on paper lumens if you ran 3 amps through the leds and could keep them below 25 c
wish I could find some of these super XMLs @ 1400 lumens but it seem the less you pay the more you get in the lupins

As a rough guide, how would these number equate to lumen output?

med = 0.960 amps = nearly 7 hours
hi = 1.40 amps = 4 hrs 45 mins
boost 1.85 amps = 3 hrs 30 mins

Thats difficult to work out as there will be losses in the driver
it would need a meter in between the driver and the leds to see what amps the leds were getting .

But if they were getting the same amps as the power draw then approx lumens would be

low about 300
med about 800
hi about 1000
boost about 1400

But they may be getting more amps while the battery is full and when it gets to about 6.6 volts when it reaches the same voltage as the leds this will be when it dims a little

:P The ghost dog is Paddy the Parsons russell terrior .
not yet got him any welding goggles

might be my power supply is fibbing or my maths is way out
so light went on at 16.00 on level 3 will report back when it goes out if I am still awake then

Steve will have a look and report back .

Nothing bad to report on opening it up .

in the front it looks neat and a tidy oring seal to the front bezel
plenty of thermal glue in evidence .

in through the back door and the same oring seal so a good degree of damp proofing that end .
very tight for space and everything looks tidy and well done

the main weak spot on the bastids is the cable entry and one I was interested to see how waterproof and I was pleasantly surprised to see it had a good strain relief and an extra rubber seal too

so it should be rainproof from the evidence I have seen though I wouldnt go swimming with it .

It appears to be quite well made and I am struggling to find fault with it .

I would do away with the ridiculous strobe mode ( at least it is separate from the main user interface) and put a switchable hi power red led on the rear as thisisnotaspoon suggests

Power draw from a 7.4 volt supply is and approx runtimes
low = 0.280 amps = 23 hours
med = 0.960 amps = nearly 7 hours
hi = 1.40 amps = 4 hrs 45 mins
boost 1.85 amps = 3 hrs 30 mins

the battery status changed to blue at 7 volts in the battery
and to red at 6.4 volts
started to flash at 5.7 volts I would expext the battery protection circuit to kick in and shut down the light .

I did notice a drop in the light output when the red status kicked in and the meter backed this up with the amps .

Lipseal
Glad you like the wee spider eyes :lol:

Update
For the Maths on full it is drawing just under 2 amps so the three hour runtime should be doable

Yes will have to pop it up on youtube but not had time

Immediate problem sorted I have swapped the back brake with the one off the FS bike .

Might be time to get a new one. As this one is pretty old now .

Of the four brakes I have. 3 are Tech M4. And the bad one is an old Mono M4
Be a good time to have all four matching

Be approx 10 miles

Thanks Coatesy will do if stuck

currently trying
Have pumped the pistons out as far as I dare and given them a good clean
and a smidge of brake fluid now trying the zip tie the lever back for a while and see it that improves it while I order some new seals .

Possibly you have altered the hardness of the seals or the silicone allowed the pistons to creep through then the seals settled with the pistons too far out.

Globalti that appears to be what is happening now its daylight and I can see the action close up the pistons are coming out and not returning
and after a few pumps of the lever they are holding the disk quite hard
so as an attempt to spin the wheel gets a quarter turn if that .

It would appear I have buggered the seals good and proper . :cry:

B) :oops: Tinkered with lots of brakes and lesson learnt wot not to do :oops:

Lights were great :D

Cheers James Dont know what went wrong with that link
Ipaditis I guess

Sorry Mowgli for no reply but yes got heaps of B2flex`s available

juan No point at all but we don’t all drive 2 cv cars which ar adequate modes of transport
who needs 200 horsepower .

It’s a nice light to ride by on low. But makes me smile when I hit max now and again . :lol:
And It means I can annoy my mates from farther back

You need to do this to your Vision 4

Vision 4 monstered

Lipseal Demo Spider will be in the post today

Cant tell you owt about wellies but at 06.00 in the morning when I take out the Lumenhound I meet a bloke jogging in wellies it was pretty strange the first time as it was dark and I heard him before I saw him

Accidentally purpose…?

I don’t know what you mean
:wink:

What we don’t hear about is the cheap ones that do fail or very rarely whether this is cos the users can’t be arsed
I don’t know .

But a few of my customers this year have come over from the cheap side due to failures
One had four fail @ £25 each so lost £100

The feedback does seem to be good as reading this thread you would be sure they are bullet proof .

What no one has commented on is no one knows the quality of the cells in the cheapies batteries though I guess Smudge. Knows

Yes my stuff is in the expensive side of lights but I can tell you it’s certainly not going to make me rich
And sales are pretty down on last years by this time

Also there is nothing changing in the led front that would keep me at the cutting edge they seem to have just about peaked with tiny improvements being announced but nothing amazing.

Fortunately ther are still some folks with a bit of cash to spend and want something completely different to the run of the mill stuff Hence the Spider which is doing pretty good on the sales

torro rosso will et him past and the back end teams will be easy pickings

But then there’s. crash kid Roman kamikaze kid , and then he has to get past the faster cars at the front end and that won’t be easy as the Rb is not quick on the straights unless they can change top gear

Might add a bit of spice to a boring venue .

And Massa is not prone to letting folks past easy

That Festool and tracking is ace
firm I worked for got one and a router with 2 3 and 1 metre tracks for a big borderfit wood job and it sort of stayed on my van when they sold the shop to the new owners :D

don’t remember owt about left hand thread .
But do remember I had to use a stupid amount of force

I made a clamp of wood to squash in the vice to hold the body and it was a struggle I nearly gave up

I do have one in to replace the batteries in so will check after the F1 Quali this afternoon

back road from my house is tree lined no streetlights and single carrage way
Very dark and raining the other day so going very slow and suddenly neatly had a Ninja jogger on the bonnet
Dressed in all black

Donk Yes will do send in your hope and I will hop it up to this spec
but it would mean a new battery

First ride with it this morning with the Lumen hound

and ran it for 10 minutes at Paddy speed without it dimming down though it was warm to touch and dimmed within 2 minutes of stopping

if I was a worker at exposure or lupine ans most other light manufacturers I would also be a tad worried
But are they manufacturers or just resellers of chinese lights that have come back and bitten them on the arse

Yes it seems that Exposure use a very strong threadlok sealant
Wear a pair of marigolds and get the hair dryer or even better hot air paint stripper
Apply heat to ouch hot and the gloves will give you the grip to start the unscrewing

lipseal
My demo is out at the moment with Rich at Cyclistno1 but I do have the one I lent to What Mountainbike
For the review I can lend that to you for a try out .

Sounds to me a solution to a problem that never existed
And over complicating a simple torch .

So can it tel when you are going over a slow nadgery trail and need lots of light

Ok ta plenty to look at

what valves then

Bloke bought his wife a pair of crotchless panties
not for anything kinky
Just so she could get a better grip on her broomstick