Gazc & Househusband, thanks for the heads up, never heard of the Geax Datura before but @ £15 delivered I’ve just ordered 1 now! Was running RQ’s f&r and can’t speak highly enough of them, was gonna try swapping the front for a Baron over the winter tho as I’ve heard great things about them, I’ll give this Geax a try and see how I get on, the Baron can wait for spring now (that sounds a long way off!)