sounds like when you have pushed it back together the seal hasn’t snapped into place causing it to stay loose. could be something totally different mind!

yep good shop!

honourablegeorge – Member
It’s got some decent spec, but I’d sooner spend that money on a Canyon or YT

Why? & Which one?

Im aware its not the new one, but the few reviews of the 2013 model seem to be favourable & considering the price & its intended use, it still seems great VFM?

seosamh77 – Member
I’m not implying anything. I’m straight up accusing them of being a cancer on the music scene! on many levels.

Well you may as well elaborate?

what money? thats the point? the money from streaming currently isn’t enough even without a label taking a slice…

lifer i forgot to ask, you seem to advocate streaming / free music (which i don’t object too), but then highlight vast costs in your example of label costs, without labels & sales revenue, how do you expect an artist to pay such costs?

I haven’t watched the video but your linking to two extreme examples, not a standard. also very US based & the UK for example differs greatly from the US industry.

Im not denying unfavourable deals exist, but to suggest they are commonplace is simply not true, there are so many variables that can make a deal good or bad dependant on what level the artist & label achieve.

davidtaylforth – Member
What do you mean by full potential?

Music would still exist without the music industry. I guess most of the shite (Taylor Swift?) would disappear, along with the record industry and all the other unnecessary rubbish.

Full potential, maximum exposure world over maybe? sell as many units as possible so a career can be had & a living be made? Etc

Of purse music would exist without an ‘industry’ but I think you would find the quality would drop, not improve.

Lifer – Member
His whole point is that it doesn’t need to be.

What’s better?

But it does need to be that way, because that is the way of the world, the way of the entertainment & music industry, it’s far far more complex than even he eludes to. You simply can’t compare releasing music globally in such a simplistic manner, not if you want it to reach its full potential anyway.

Which is better? Working with a label I would say.

You shouldn’t feel obliged to make a financial contribution, the label / artist have decided to let you enjoy the music that way, buy an album if you feel compelled though :)

davidtaylforth – Member
Steve Albini knows his stuff. http://www.stereogum.com/1678835/steve-albini-thinks-the-internet-solved-the-problem-with-music/news/

Is there really a need for record labels anymore?

You can’t make sweeping generalisations for a varied global market like he does. Releasing music in different countries can be a very different task. It is not a case of simply putting music on sale. It can be a very complicated process, especially in the UK.

Of course you can release music without a label, there are examples of it all the time, but its a lot better when someone else takes the financial risk for you (a label) and puts in far more resources & experience than you could as an independent artist.

It’s evident the vast majority are unaware of the modern day roles of a record label & how the music industry actually works.

whatnobeer – Member
If the record labels didn’t demand such onerous terms from the streaming companies then maybe Taylor would get paid a little more? Imo the record companies are desperately trying to cling to old methods of making money and refusing to adapt. Instead trying to sue their way out of trouble.

Can you quote these ‘onerous terms’ for everyone’s reading?

I will respect your opinion but I suspect your not best informed to draw that conclusion.

the-muffin-man – Member
And apparently all her video are still on YouTube which supposedly offers even worse terms than Spotify.

From experience I wouldnt say they were worse than spotify.

teethgrinder – Member
New, upcoming or smaller artists need the exposure, and all straming will help them one way or another.

The tricky bit is always getting the exposure, lots of great new undiscovered music will always remain burried & hidden on iTunes / Spotify etc. Marketing & Exposure still vital.

jimster01 – Member
IIRC Apple are getting on the torrent bandwagon too.

Part of their stratergy in securing Dr Dre Beats I believe.

seosamh77 – Member
Always needs to be a middleman in there! i reckon that’s the problem with music in more than one way.

Are you implying record labels are a/the problem? I think you would be surprised how much good they do for their artists.

Lifer – Member
It’s rubbish though.
Pink Floyd new album is on Spotify but look at the sales.

Interested to know what you mean?

Doubt it was CID

are you on original discs at 90k?

Stoatsbrother, do one will you :roll:

Great ride yesterday, thanks for organising! good to see a couple of old faces & many new ones!

Anymore photos to go up?

FunkyDunc – Member
The other comment about living in a crap area is very untrue as well. They probably live in a very nice area, and the scum travel to the nice area for rich pickings.

This is absolutely spot on

BMW 320d Saloon, lovely for the miles getting to biking, abysmal for carrying bikes as the seats don’t fold down

Just got a cheap Renault Kangoo Van as a consequence :)

Are they any good?

Nobody suggested anyone is lieing did they?

Maybe you & your mate are just wrong? :lol:

benpinnick – Member
Many are I suspect but FWIW but the Bird Zero is designed entirely by us right down to the butting on the tubeset. We do all the 3d modelling, FEA etc. here in the UK and then send out the specifications to Taiwan for manufacture. We then import bare painted frames and do all the assembly here in the UK. As we hold huge parts stock you get the benefit of direct pricing while still being able to spec loads of options (alot at no charge) and your bike still gets to you in under 7 days. Every part on that bike is picked to give the best blend of value, weight and long life, hence why even a £995 Zero has an XTR BB, XT Cassette, Spoon saddle, Hope seat clamp… the list goes on. <Blatant Ad Over />

I’ve never heard of Bird bikes until reading your blatant ad :oops: , but I’m glad you did! your bikes looks great btw, great job!

This sounds perfect, Ill make the trip over for sure! See you there! :-)

Enve kit looks lovely i must say! :D

#backtrack #sharpish

Op, what kind of club are you after? Music? Age range?

its not 1974 Binners

chicks dig cash these days

its funny because he was showing off 8O

Don’t tell him to lie because of the shame :roll:

Old Focus ST / RS? Mondeo ST220?

Old BMW 130I?

Old Octavia VRS?

That the sydney apple store? Once went in there to have a look on stw :lol:

Ordered some Socks, Can’t argue with those prices :-)

Thansk OP

Looking at a whole new bike or just a frame to transfer bits over?

Personally not ridden a Bfe but had a Soul & currently have a solaris & have had many a aluminium frame such as a Diva (presuming its the HT). Id imagine the most noticable difference between the two might be the top tube length.

I would say make the stretch & go for the Soul just for the weight saving & as others will mention a very slightly more complient ride (apparently)

Worth considering a second Hand soul frame if budget is tight, plenty around at the moment.

Feel for you OP, know the road well & know the usual pace of traffic flow on match day, never mind 05:30am :?

I like that arrangement, We still get a Brilliant Stadium for domestic & European cup finals & the odd England game while the England team play around the country for all to watch, whats not to like?

As for the NFL team, hard to draw a comparison as its really only a North American sport (professionally anyway) so its not really the same as say playing a premier league game stateside.

Jacksonville Jaguars would seem a sensible bet to relocate to London, probably called the London Bulldogs of something amusing! I wouldnt be surprised if the NFL team were located in the USA & also had to travel in for home games, Bit like some Russian premier league teams being based in Moscow, Anzi for example!

Go to Brighton (presuming you don’t live there) & go to some new places, then you can all keep going as late as you want!

HRII (2.3) on the front & Ardent (2.25) on the back for me!

Primarni? :D

Mikemorini, Tell her if she sees a group of 5 scouse lads celebrating a 32nd to run a mile! :lol:

Drug are for mugs Jambourgie 8)

mikemorini any feedback from your kid? going this weekend so any further recommendations be great!