To be honest, when they had the original pads in them, them they had more initial bite. So fearsome in fact that Ive detuned them with sintered pads. I had trouble with the pistons sticking on the codes and after a while got fed up with the big ugly grey things. I don’t think I would by the fr versions without any pad contact adjusters though. The pads do wear quick on the ones and I like to maintain an even amount of lever movement so do use the adjusters a often. If the codes are working fine and you are not bothered about the weight I would keep using them but I love my the ones.