Every time.
Every damn time.
Op: a question specifically about using chain cleaning devices
St: oh, I never use them- a toothbrush is soo much better!
Guess what- he probably doesn’t want to use a toothbrush to clean his chain- because compared to a chain cleaner it’s massively more time consuming, loads more messy and hugely less effective. But don’t mind me: carry on recommending removing the chain and washing it in processed unicorn blubber or whatever the most recent ‘best’ way is supposed to be!
/rant