She stated that people with disability often dont know the value of money, hence they need not get the minimum wage. 

This is a very poor reason, pretty offensive actually. Wages should be based on the ability to do the job not the value you attach to money. Some disabled people can do particular jobs to a very acceptable standard and should be paid the going rate.
There is a discussion to be had about the less able disabled being supported in work. How can you encourage an employer to give a disabled person a job when that person’s productivity is going to be considerably less than an able person ? Being allowed to pay a lower wage might be part of it. Money is the most obvious benefit to working, but there’s plenty of other things that make working hugely beneficial to disabled people.

It does work, bought and sold a few items using it. Once though a bike I wanted was £1800 or best offer. I would have paid the asking but put in a offer for £1650. That was rejected but you get 3 offers so I went £1700 then £1750, all were turned down. In the end I didn’t buy purly on principle, why say offers unless your prepared to accept even slightly less than the asking price ?

Whilst in the states I was pretty taken aback from the big signs on the side of the roads warning of a $10,000 fine for littering. Ten Grand!!!

They do take it seriously, case in point 😁

I did the Wolverhampton tough guy event once. They were breaking the ice on the lake thing we had to go through before the start. Totally traumatised me !!! Coldest water I go in now is the Med in summer. Chapeau to all you cold water swimmers harder than me 👍

Maybe go straight to powder coat. Give these people a ring their only a few miles from you.

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 i do motorbike trackdays at £250 a day, that’s without fuel for the bike… 

Ouch !! But brilliant fun I’m sure.
MX practice tracks are much cheaper. Local one’s to me are £20/30 respectively. Likewise if it’s busy they split it into groups and 20min per hour is “PLENTY” for most people.

There’s a few devices out there, just one here.

https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/anti-chain-suck-catcher-device-bike-cycle-problem-solver-triple-double-chainsuck/201242603574?ul_ref=https://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=2&pub=5575376664&toolid=10001&campid=5338268676&customid=CjwKCAiArJjvBRACEiwA-Wiqq5YCn7My7KPXLNePFnkEyNvCtVpO0GWe0RXP71iVy6zbQCB_wtJyDxoCER0QAvD_BwE&lgeo=1&item=201242603574&srcrot=710-53481-19255-0&rvr_id=2206784631731&rvr_ts=cb65a7af16e0a4d12a54182cff855933&_mwBanner=1&_rdt=1&ul_noapp=true&pageci=f8c84a3f-1280-4f98-8c7b-9c0dc426ba39

I had a phone call from a policeman. My father had hit a parked car then left the scene. He was flagged down as he came back past after going to the supermarket. He hopelessly failed a roadside eye test, so the policeman gave him the option of voluntarily surrendering his license or get taken to court. My father wasn’t having any of it so they called me to persuade him. He did after I told him he’d loose it anyway in court and he could end up killing someone. But it was a massive blow and a big step in his eventual decline.

We have the highest fares and most profitable rail companies in the world

When taken as a whole they don’t seem very profitable ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-46398947

Quick spelling test in the taxi household got 3 out if 4 spelling Pinocchio correctly. No prizes for guessing who got it wrong 😳😳

 I was asked by the person on the phone if I had passed on the good news yet to the others about a contract we just won to which I said yes, but the jungle drums beat me to it.

Thanks for that OP. In that context definitely not racist. Good luck for the future hope everything works out 👍👍

Personally I think the OP has been poorly treated, some of the language used against him “pale male and stale” is jaw dropping. But he hasn’t quite said how the term jungle drums was used ? I mentioned I’d heard it used in a racist manner and this is how it was. It was my first job late 70’s, in the sales office there was one manager who’d sometimes ask one of the girls to get some one on the phone. There was one black girl Janice and if he asked her, it was get so and so on the jungle drums, only her everyone else was phone or blower. The term can be used in a racist manner, something I’m aware of. It’s a term I’ve long since stopped using.

@monkeycmonkeydo
I saw you at my local,go on which one are you 😉

People often say long travel bikes sanitize easier trails and that short trave/hard tails make them more fun. If your toning down the gnar a shorter travel bike makes sense e-bike or not.

Equally I have never heard the term ‘jungle drums’ to be used in a racist manner 

I have, used to imply a black person is to stupid to use a phone.

And politicians are now claiming it’ll “be over by Xmas”, or within 6 months… it won’t be… it can’t be. 

Brexit itself will take years whoever tries to implement it. These claims purely refer to getting the withdrawal agreement through parliment. I’m not sure why people don’t understand that ?

I’ve got an oxo gg and it takes seconds to clean, just goes in the washing bowl with everything else. My pestle and mortar takes for ever, its normally full of change, paper clips ect, ect. So it’s got to be emptied then cleaned before and after use, and I’ve got to sort out all the junk that I’ve taken out of it in the first place 🙁

How many people these days have actual disposable income, that would be my question.

Most people actually, but I doubt £6000 is what the majority spend, that figure is distorted by the few who spend vastly more. As in the £100,000 mentioned above.

It sounds now like he’s going to go to the doctor tomorrow with a view to getting signed off for a couple of weeks. If nothing else it’ll give him time to process what’s happened rather than making any rash decisions.

Any physical symptoms aside, he’s been rather badly shaken by the whole thing.

If he does he’ll probably find himself unemployed at the first “convenient” opportunity.
He’s not hurt, his best option is to get back to work and discuss what might have happened. That or find another line of work. Is he happy with what he’s doing, in general and with his current employer ?

Scrap Metal Prices UK

Alloy wheels showing 80p a kilo so maybe £48 ish.

If your interested in European wilderness this is an interesting site.

https://wilderness-society.org/

Good article here.

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2018/oct/07/five-europe-best-wilderness-spotting-wildlife-romania-poland-finland-greece-portugal

60 next birthday, I’d go option 1. I’ll never buy an e-mtb, e-bike as transport I fancy one now.

However I’m completely unconvinced by anyone who tries to argue ebike riders put in more effort and calories than riding a normal bike.

Thing is you can, you just go up even faster than the pootler. In practice it’s only STW posters that actually do 😉

 It’s the rule of road cycing. It’s actually quite hard to replace all the calories you burn,

Not for me 🙁🙁

That many STWers have an almost superhuman ability when it comes to driving,

All brought about by the absolute necessity to fit winter tyres to drive about the home counties in sub 10c temperatures.

I don’t know who does your Mot’s but its worth getting a proper idea about what the problems could be. I go to this guy.
Maki Motors

11 Dominion Way, Cardiff CF24 1RF
029 2048 0703

https://g.co/kgs/VH3anS

He’s very fair and reasonably priced, but more importantly he’ll work with you to get your vehicle through its Mot. I’d go down at some point have an emmisions test and see what he says.

And that is kind of my point. How many cassettes that get sold see a road race? 

Not many, but I like a 11t with a compact I’m not comfortable spinning to high a cadence so like something to lean on. Riding down this or anything similar would have me in trouble trying to close a gap with a 50/12. And that’s a club or mates ride not racing.

Check out my effort on this segment on Strava https://strava.app.link/rWrSy7LMI1

Edit:
Link seems to show the whole ride, its the Down Down Down segment I’m referring to. Storey Arms down towards Brecon.

Every society has issues regarding violence. Sating that growing up in the 60’s and 70’s there seemed to be a greater acceptance that violence was normal and a reasonable way to resolve issues. I remember far more schoolyard fights and pub punch ups than now. Perhaps it was because of the influence of our parents and older family members who’d been involved in both world wars.
But then maybe it was because of the lead in petrol.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93crime_hypothesis

After all, who amongst us hasn’t felt that hanging out with convicted abusers was the honourable thing to do?

The short preview explains this. Honourable in standing by a friend who’s got himself into trouble, and served his sentence . Something he goes onto say he deeply regreted and was a mistake.
But anyway this thread will only go one way so crack on.

It’s one of those dammed if you do dammed if you don’t things. There’s enormous pressure on him to talk about his relationship with Epstein, but whatever he says Royal haters will either not believe a word or condemn him for what they do believe. I’m not a Royalist or anti Royal really, they exist and thats ok, but Andrew is a man like any of us. Beyond the trappings of wealth and position, he’ll have made mistakes just like I have. I’ll give him some credit for talking about them.

@funkmasterp
Never heard a song that made me feel so hungry !! Crab cakes it is for tea 😋😋

 I end up taping at least one of my bikes every month

Still got the original tape on my Canyon 5ys and 14,000 miles 😎

Don’t forget Deep Purple Burn is mt all time favourite album.

A bit forgotten but Budgie are great.

 you find that states in the USA that use capital punishment have higher rates of murder and serious violence. The explanation offered is that the public view killing as a being a more legitimate course of action than those in non capital punishment states –

It’s all a bit chicken and egg though. Would removing the death penalty reduce murder, or is it the States that already have high murder rates feal the death penalty stops it getting worse ?

Rather assumes that it really was fluimucil in there. Is that known to be true ?

It’s not known to be untrue. Opinions however…….

All the info you need here.

https://www.gov.uk/take-pet-abroad

Your freind doesn’t need to travel with it. Company that tranports pets.

https://jalsauk.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAk7TuBRDQARIsAMRrfUbjjtlhQFofqiOnpNbriwLKzhHMeG77aWgt4YDC6r4XZEY5VJOneNEaAkKkEALw_wcB

Tried some last night, they are hot thats for sure, but I didn’t find them unbearable. Doubt I’ll buy them again as they just didn’t taste that nice to me.

I’ve moved on MG.

or just one of those other sort of “facts” where you can’t actually prove it, but just “know” it’s true?

Yes, one of those other facts, and if you read my post in full you’ll know its true. If you don’t the world has somehow past you by. Go to a mosque talk to Muslims renouncing Islam creates a terrible crisis within families, far more than in any but the most devout Christian family. I’m not judging it’s just how it is.

There are many cases of people, including Christians and atheists being complete dicks. But I don’t go around saying ‘atheists are dicks’ or ‘Christians are dicks’. The reason your comments are racist is that you are taking an example of dickish behaviour and reasoning that, because the people happen to be Muslim, that they are behaving badly specifically because they are Muslims – 

Obviously, all manner of people can be dicks. But disowning a family member for renouncing Islam isn’t Muslims being dicks, at least not in their eyes. Amongst even remotely devout Muslims, of which there’s many renouncing Islam is a fundimental betrayal of their religion, family and community. Muslims love their children as much as any parent and will grieve a child they disown as if they’d died.
Using the term Muslim in the way I’ve done doesn’t imply all Muslims would behave as such, only that it’s prevalent in their communities.
And MG stating obvious truths isn’t racist. I get the impression the only Muslim you meet are educated professionals, not so much the normal working class families that I meet so often.
P.s
I’ve said my piece on this, so I’ll say no more on it. Agree disagree thats fine.

I think it was more about giving him the stage to demonstrate that he’s an out-of-control bully, which he pretty much did.

The opposite IMHO. It seemed like he was being bullied, a neutral would probably sympathise with him.