Is this turning into a climbing grades debate …. climbing is about movement “It’s…the Roman idea that the gods are not creatures out there in space, they actually come into people and the people become gods—gods of love, gods of war. There’s definitely a climbing god which comes into you in the Roman sense. You don’t know why you’re climbing so well—it’s nothing physical, you could have been porking away for two or three weeks and suddenly you’re climbing brilliantly. It’s not mental, it’s soul, it runs deep. That’s why on-sight climbing is so much more compelling and important than any other climbing. If you want to produce a piece of climbing art, you’ve got to bleed to produce it.”