Over to you stoffel I believe

Apears to be the same opinionated unobjective wafle that was on last night. Seen nothig so far to convince me the French are doing anything wrong, nor anything to make me sympathetic toards TA or any other Brits ignoring the legal obligation to hold a particulat qualification in the country thy choose to work in.

As I see it, the bottom line is that the french require yout o have a particular qualification for which there is no British equivalent (as you don’t need anything to legally become a mtb guide in the UK, thereofre there is no ‘professional’ qualification). Ragardless of individual opinion of French law, it doesn’t ppear the French are in fact doinganything that contravenes EU directives. Nothing that I can see, anyway. There are accusations of ‘protectionism’, but I can’t see any solid evidence to back these up.

Imagine a Dutch bloke smoking a spliff in England; ‘But for shure, itsh perfectly legal in holand, sho whatsh the problem?’.

3020 miles / 154 hours = 19.6mph constant. Without any break.

We all know what you’re thinking.

She didn’t ride 3020 miles in 154 hours…

Ideally, you’d be looking at a 1970’s track frame, but they can fetch high prices these days. Something like this:

Or, if you can’t find anything with tack dropuyst, then look for something with dropouts like the ons with simling smileys next to them:

:

As you’ll need to be able to move the wheel back and forth to take up any chain slack (chain should have no moe than about an inch of up and down movement, set it at it’s ‘tightest’ spot by rotating the cranks with the chain on)/

Older frames will be 1″ sterer ube, so decent headsets are more digfficult to me by. Seatpots may be 25.4mm/1″. Don’t buy a Peugeot, as some frames have a seatpost size unique to that brand, and you will never fid one.

Show me where exactly.

Here:

*Definitions taken from EU Directive 2005/36/EC Article 3 points (a) and (e):

(a) ‘regulated profession’: a professional activity or group of professional activities, access to which, the pursuit of which, or one of the modes of pursuit of which is subject, directly or indirectly, by virtue of legislative, regulatory or administrative provisions to the possession of specific professional qualifications; in particular, the use of a professional title limited by legislative, regulatory or administrative provisions to holders of a given professional qualification shall constitute a mode of pursuit. Where the first sentence of this definition does not apply, a profession referred to in paragraph 2 shall be treated as a regulated profession;

(e) ‘regulated education and training’: any training which is specifically geared to the pursuit of a given profession and which comprises a course or courses complemented, where appropriate, by professional training, or probationary or professional practice.

Which excludes this:

(11)
In the case of the professions covered by the general system for the recognition of qualifications, hereinafter referred to as ‘the general system’, Member States should retain the right to lay down the minimum level of qualification required to ensure the quality of the services provided on their territory. However, pursuant to Articles 10, 39 and 43 of the Treaty, they should not require a national of a Member State to obtain qualifications, which they generally lay down only in terms of the diplomas awarded under their national educational system, where the person concerned has already obtained all or part of those qualifications in another Member State. As a result, it should be laid down that any host Member State in which a profession is regulated must take account of the qualifications obtained in another Member State and assess whether they correspond to those which it requires. The general system for recognition, however, does not prevent a Member State from making any person pursuing a profession on its territory subject to specific requirements due to the application of professional rules justified by the general public interest. Rules of this kind relate, for example, to organisation of the profession, professional standards, including those concerning ethics, and supervision and liability. Lastly, this Directive is not intended to interfere with Member States’ legitimate interest in preventing any of their citizens from evading enforcement of the national law relating to professions.

@ stoffel. I think your argument is a little flawed. British law is only specific to Britain but if someone who has studied international law then they have every right to practice it in the UK

‘International law’ isn’t generally actually binding within particular countries; more, it is merely a set of guidlines, a framework around a set of consensual legal agreements between different countires. Anyone can study ‘international law’; only those qualified to practise law in the UK can legally do so. I think you need to understand this a bit better.

MTB guiding is not specific to France.

Bu currently, there is no legal requirment to hold any qualifications to become a mtb guide in the UK, but there is in France, hence the need for anyone wishing to do so in France, to hold the necessaty qualifications. So, regardless of whatever ‘professional’ qualifications a person has in the UK, they aren’t qualified in France.

stoffel have you read this link? Pretty much explains the situation I think.

Well, there’s selctive quoting to suit Trail Addiction’s argument, but actualy, when looking at all the relevant text, I don’t personaly think it supports that. The way I see it is; you ae required under French law to hold a parcitular qualification in order to work as a guide. There is no equivalent UK qualification, therefore TA cannot reasonably argue that they hold an equivalent qualification. Ergo, TA have a weak or non-existant argument. This is my own personal view, ad I’ve yet to be convinced otherwise, although I’d like to see if there genuinely is a solid legal argument for TA.

That’s not a useful comparison- UK law is different to French law, so a qualified French lawyer won’t neccesarily have a clue about UK law. And vice versa of course. It’s not a transferrable qualification, regardless of equivalence.

Thanks. I think this helps explain things firther.

Care to point out where he’s broken the law & which one?

Well, I imagine it’s the one which requres hm to hold the correct qualification in order to work as a guide, no?

If you wish to prctice law in the UK, to you need to hold a qualification which allows you todo so, and as fair as I am awae, being qualified in law in another country does not qualify you to practice in the Uk, you have to go through the whole qualificatio process first. Which will cost you an awful lot of money.

I’m not aware of the Uk being held to account for ‘preventing’ foreign qualified lawyers from practicing here. Which they are, unless they hold a UK qualification.

Does the person in question here hold a Frenchqualification allowing him to work as a guide, as apparently is required under French law?

This in an interestng case, but I think he has a weak argument if any at all. He’s been aware of the legal requirement and has ignored it.

Couple of questios:

1: Are you required under UK law to have a ‘professional’ qualification in mountain bike guiding, to work as a mtb guide in the UK?

2: If the guide is operating illegally, are any customers thereofre not covere by any insurance they may have? Is the guide also uninsured for liability?

Great thread, and thanks for raising this issue. Our oranisation has severeal adapted cycles, and they are generaly poor qaulity for the money. They spend too much time in the workshopbeing sorted, whn they cold be being enjoyed by those who would benefit from them.

To be honest it pisses me off. Why does someone think that just because someone has a disability, that they can force substandard crap on them like that?

Exactly. hopefully, discussions like this can perhaps lead towards these issues being addressed.

Bencooper; great stff, and I think you can expect a bit of interest as a result of your contribution on here!

I don’t really see wht the issue is; he’s ignored the law of the land in which he lives and wants to work, and will face the apropriate legal action. The same as any foreign national breaking any British laws here. Non-story really, and i fail to see why he would expect any sympathy.

Pitty we let anyone in this country.

Wouldn’t mind getting a council house in the French Alps, housing benefit for me the missus and kids. Oh and free medical attention when I fall of my bike.

Oh dea. 🙄

I can be in central Manchester or Leeds in 30-40 minutes

Comiserations. 😉

Is this one of those ‘where I live is better than where anyone else lives and i’m better than everyone else cos I’m so clever’ type threads? Just enjoy what you have. Personally, I’m a city boy, and love living here. I can appreciate other people making different choices/enjoying different things. Get on with your own life and don’t worry about others.

Chewk; are you ‘self medicating’,or what? 😯

New frame courtesy of amateur bike shop.

One of our mechs dented a customer’s fork trying to remove a seized stem. Thecustomer now has a brand new fork and stem, courtesy of us. We woudn’t even dream of trying to fob a customer off with anythng less following a mistake on our part. That a bike shop would even try to, is shameful.

New frame courtesy of amateur bike shop.

And nothing lss.

Unless you’re a couple and both earning 60k plus you’ll be finding it hard to make the most of all the opportunities and the place becomes unattractive.

Utter bollocks. We’re on nowher enear that, and have as I said a fantastic lifestyle (we think so anyway). WE just don’t have massive finacnial demands on us though mortgage, credit, travel costs etc. The notion that you need to be super-rich to enjoy living in London is rubbish; granted, it’s vvery (increasingly) difficult for the very poor, but if you’ve got a brain in your head, it’s not vastly more difficult than living in any other city.

Give him your log on.

I coud give a dog my logon and it would be more qualified to coment on a plethora of subjects than many of the **** on here.

Why are others ‘less qualified’?

Yu really need to ask that? On THIS forum? 🙄

Can you ask him what the hell happened to the Israel-Palestine solidarity movement and whether he thinks things like academic boycotts are hurting those efforts? Does he think inclusive dialogue is the way forward or South African style pressure on Israel is the way?

We’ve moved on. He’s particularly enamoured with my whisky (Abelour 10 yr old). He’s walked out of the room in search of a glass of water. We’re sitting in the kitchen. He was sat next to the sink. 😐

I have no idea chewk, as I’m really not interested. I do know he gets a stipedn from the Isreali government for an injury he sustianed in a training exercise. i do know that he doesn’t support tha actions of the IDF and the Isreali goverment. And that he’s probably far, far more qualified to comment on such matters than probably anyone les on this forum.

Follow Binners example and become an internet forum troll. I’massuming binners is unemployed, given the amount of time he/she spends on here. 😯

That’s interesting, because our friend, ith all of his experience, is on the side of the Palestinians. I don’t think he’s representative of all Istraelis though.

I’ve pleaded with him not ot ocupy our spare room, or the basement, and to at least leave us the kitchen.

Oof. Yu COULD; face the steerer top, and the bit you’ve cut off, then install star fangled nuts(carefully0 in both use a long bold to go through both, which would lock them together. Ends would neet to be exactly square on though. Wn’t work on a tapered steerer.

We’ve got an Israeli friend. here right at this very moment. Former member of the IDF. Anyonewant me to ask himanything?

For the record; it’s utterly fascinting and enlighteneing. My mind is being opened.

I wish more folk hated London; there’d be less **** aound and more room for us Londoners. 😉

I don’t understand the obesession with money though; yes, it’s a n expensive place to live, but if you get the balance right, you can be lauhng. I have a leisurely 25 minute ride in to work, my wife walks in. We are very licky to be mortgage free, and be sitting on a goldmine should we wish to uproot. We both enjoy our jobs, and have what we consider to be a fantastic lifestyle. ‘Touristy’ stuff? Rarely go to the west end, but will catch several exhibitikns/visit the big museums/galeries several ties of year, but also do stuff that’s way off the tourist trail; local venues, small theatres, music gigs in pubs etc. Never short of something to do or invitiations, in fact we end up having to chose between several different things very often. Food; no need to go to overhyped ‘michelon’ places if you know what’s good.

I recently had to suffer oming back in on a train from Luton airport; 6.30 and the train was packed by St Albans with the most boring **** you can imagine, going to work in the city. Probabyl thinking they’re so clever because they earnso much, but forget that they spend a massive, miserable chunk of their lives commuting in at great expense. Dead by 68 because they’ve overworked and overstresed so much, chasing the dream. Idiots. All that and you end up a boing **** in a souless commuter belt town. Well done.

44. Born and bread. Lived here allmy life. Wouldn’t even dream of moving to any other UK city, save perhaps Bristol . Newcastles’ surprisingly ok too. Leeds, Manchester, Biringham (urrgh)- no thanks. All the negatives with hardly any of the positives. Biking? Fortunately we have a bit mre going on than just riding bikes at the weekend. Nice to get away now and then; we’re thinking of buying a farm in Cumbria actually. We can do things like that you see, as we’re so rich. 😆

As for driving through centrl London from Canary Wharf to Condor; idiot. There’s a very good Evans in CW that specalises in road bikes! Youdeserved to suffer! 😆

So; I bought a Canon MG7150 from Currys (**** you John Lewis with your ‘legendary customer service’- staff standing around unwilling to actually assist me, delivery times vague at best) for £130 with £20 cashback from Canon. Bargain. Quite easy to set up, works efficiently, scans reasonably wel, copy function workks so easily and the one small b+w print I did as a test came out pretty good (why do they only give you a tiny sample pac of 4×6″ paper? Tight bastards!). So probably will do the job perfectly.

Plus it’s in the house, so no more going out to places to get prints done… 😉

Yeah a guillotine trimmer is a very good tool. A different method of acieving the same thing.

That shooting board doesn’t look like it’s ever been used – has it ?

And are you Fred Gross btw ’cause he’s got an identical one :

It’s not mine, just a picture of one from google.

And someone recommends a shooting board.

If you want a mitre to be accurate, say for a picture frame etc, then a shooting board is a very handy piee of kit. Your job probably doesn’t require that degree of accuracy, however, and most household ‘carpentry’ doesn’t. I don’t know what the op means by ‘general diy’ though; they may well want to do framing and stuff that requires greater accuracy than an electric chop saw can give. Power tools are for speed and efficiency, over accuracy. But then, you think a pocket screw jig is a good tool for joining 12mm ply at right angles. 🙄 😆

Not saying its not propper but need to mind its a house not the chipendales latest cabinet!

True, but if the op did decide they wantted to get into tackiling a few more challenging projects, then it would be good to look at alternatives to power tools.

If you’re after accuracy, then no motorised saw of that type will give you millimetre perfect cuts. For that, you’re better off over cutting, then using a shooting board with a sharp block/shooting plane for fine-tuning.

If it was a Sturmey Archer 3-speed hub that had been buried that long, a bit of oil and it would work perfectly.

We’re going down the private route, but i’m not holding my breath to be honest.

Don’t. It will be an utter waste of time. I wouldn’t waste your money.

I have mild Alopecia Barbera; it affects my ‘beard area’, or chin, jaw and face cheeks. Hardly noticable unless I don’t shave for a couple of days. Nothing that really bothers me, although I can appreciate head hair loss in women as far more socially devastating; my wife lost all her hair during chemotherapy, and I’ve seen how upsetting and demoralising it can be for someone. For me, the situation isn’t that bad, and it’s less extensive than it was, just a couple of patches now. I did have a small patch on the back of my head, at the top of my nech, but that seems to have fully grown back too. I tried some sort of steroid cream, but got bored with it as I really didn’t think it did anthing. All sorts of ‘remedies’ out there, including using onion juice etc. The bottom line is that it’s apparently an immune system problem; the IS is ‘fooled’ into ‘thinking’ that hair is a foreign body, and expells it and the follicle. Somethinglike that anyway. It has been linked to stress,which can cause all sorts of autoimmune issues.

I feel for your relative. I really hope it sorts itself out, and she can have her hair grow back again. But maybe she can take a bit of comfort from my wife an other women; ‘it’s only hair. I’ve still got my life’.

While graphic photos make a point they do so in an unnecessary and unpleasant way

I don’t agree at all. I think it’s vital we all see the reality of what is going on, as ‘unnecesary and unpleasant’ as you may think. Those pictures have made me feel physically sick, but they inform me of the reality.

Hamas can do so without resorting to images that not only horrify the observer but also exploit and in many ways dehumanise the victims.

Who says it’s just Hamas doing this? ‘Neutral’ journaists from arond the world are gathering evidence like this; it’s not propaganda, it’s truth. It’s saying ‘this is what you’ve done’ This is what you’re ignoring’. And those perptrating such actus of inhumanioty need to be confrnted with the consequences of their actions.

If that was my child

It’s not your child. Don’t aply your values, sensibilities and ideals to a situation you are not involved in.

I suppose by ‘weird’ I mean stuff that’s outside of your normal comfort zone,non-mainstream and relatively obscure.

cfinnimore; I see your Einsturzende Neubaten, and raise you Nurse With Wound:

There’s no reason why cycling should preclude black cyclists

There would have been no hurdles preventing me from following that course had I been black

So if there’s ‘no reason’ and ‘no hurdles’, then why aren’t theri more blackand Asian people in cycling? Obviously there are reasons and hurdles, perceived or otherwish, or the case would be verydifferent’

Socio-economic factors aside, I think culture has a lot to do with it. You don’t see very many black and Asian peole using bikes simply for transport, so it’s unsurprising that there aren’t many racers from those groups. A lot of Balck and Asian people don’t see cycling as aspirational; bikes are ‘for children andpoor people’, whlst it’s aspirational to own a car. This will of course change over time, but if your parents don’t cycle, then there’s less chance you will. Wheras the white middle classes will encourage their kids to cycle a lot more, thus establishing cycling as a part of daily life.

Then there’s the club structure withn cycle sport; almost exclusively white and middle class. and mainly confined to the more affluent areas. In my experience, many can be pretty stuffy, conservative and unwilling to evelove (look at the UCI’s hatred of anything new for a prime example of this!). The predominantly male set-up also discourages women in a similar way. Football, on the other hand, is embedded in working class culture and areas, so there are many more opportunities for kids from all groups to get involved; it’s a truly universal sport. And kids have many role models withinfootbal; most areas will have at least one ‘local boy’ who got into Man Utd/Chelsea/Aresnal/Dagenham and Redbridge etc. Bradley Wiggins and Chris Hoy are never going to be rolemodesl for young black and Asian kids on councilestates.

Thingswillchange over time, but there’s still a while yet before we see any significant change inthe status quo. I think it needs a change in attitude throuhout alllevels and withn all groups, before cycle sport enjoys the universality of football etc.

I was just reading about the Netherlands and Denmark where they have ‘presumed liability’ That is what we need here in the UK. It basically means the motorists is liable by default unless they can prove otherwise. They say that as a result of this, motorists give cyclists more room.

Apparently, this is more myth than reality:

Strict liability in the Netherlands

Meanwhile, motorists in the UK kill around 5 people every day. Are these drivers not giving the rest of us a bad name?

I work on the assumption that every single driver out there is a **** homicidal maniac out to get me, until proven otherwise. I find this helps me stay alive.

see loads of cyclists doing things which put themselves at risk. Running red lights is the main one. It’s frustrating because, in my opinion, it gives cyclist a bad name.

I see loads of drivers doing just that. And using ‘phones, speeding, etc. Allof which are far more dangerous than anythng cyclists do. When driving offences are effectively adressed, then we can start to scrutinise cyclists behaviour. Not before. Because demonising cyclists is never going to be helpful.

Maybe he just can’t be bothered getting into pointless arguments with you abbout totally unrelated and unconnected events. 🙄

This thread is spookily like the current conflict; anything thrown up by the pro-Isral/Zionists is immediately and effectively shot down by the ‘Iron Dome’ thrown up by Ernie Lynch and thers. I’m surprised, therefore, that those on the side taking such a battering, can’t empathise with others, and think more deeply about their own voews.

A lot of people, Lewis included, believed he would be significantly better than Nico,and that Lewis would be no 1. Nico has proven to be a lot better than people gave him credit for, and is up there on merit. If it were not for bad luck in the British GP, he’d be even forther infront. As mentioned; Lewis moans, while Nico just gets on with thngs. Maybe Leiws, for all his speed and ability, just isn’t as good as he thinks he is.

I remember people also saying that Kimi would be better than Fernando. In fact, you couldbuy t-shirts proclaiming ‘Fernando; Kimi is quicker than you’. How foolish they must feel now; qualis 9-2, races 11-0 to Fernando. 😆 It’s h=just a shame He and Vettel are in such relatively poor cars this year, hopefully next year will be a lot more even. At least we have two very evenly matched drivers at Mercedes to offer a respte to the procession.

Several hours spent doing a foot search over a golf course

Did you find the foot?

Just got in from a ride, and the heavens and hell have opened up! 😮

Odd that Hamilton has a disproportionate amount of mechanicals than the german fella at the german team.

Odd that Nico suffered a strange failure whilst in the lead at the British GP, with British driver Lewis Hamilton behind him, in a British based team car… 😉

What drugs for Angerfist?