and so what about hiding purchases?

it is all part of the game that marriage and relationships can be. Some people here seem very pleased with themselves and what they think the level of honesty and sharing is in their relationships. Yet I bet they don’t tell their wives their bums look that big. And they may yet find out that their wives have been hiding secret purchases/lovers/diseases and that things were not quite as open as they thought. 😉

Marcel – nice thread – keep it up – I got it.

M-F

The odd bit actually. Still tedious. LH has attempted to improve it… In money per viewer terms, and in interesting racing move per lap terms it remains pants.

I run to time or early most of the time and apologise to anyone I keep waiting more than 15 minutes. It isn’t that hard to organise things. But there are colleagues, just as there are people in life who cannot be punctual. And that includes patients…

Ok. I am a parent of 2 kids and probably a bit overprotective of them when they were smaller. But I have left them monitored upstairs in a hotel in the way that GrahamS describes. But that is hugely different from leaving three unmonitored very young kids in an unlocked ground floor apartment at some distance from where you were with your drinking buddies.

Mrs McCann has not always come across as contrite or pleasant and the posters who point to the dominance of this story compared with many other missing kid stories have a fair point. Perhaps her own feelings of her own guilt lead to some of her behaviour.

Personally I hope Maddy died as painlessly as possible some years ago, because almost anything else sounds too dreadful. I also hope the McCanns move on and remember they had 2 other children who need them and need to feel the centre of their world..

Good. F1 has become a snore. There are many cheaper and more interesting motorsports and no reason why the beeb should bend over and take it just because Bernie wants them to.

F1 has tended to look east in developing in recent years. The views of 4 or 5 million Brit viewers may not be that important to Bernie.

Most people have higher depreciation and higher insurance than that. Or much higher servicing costs in older cars. People kid themselves about how much they pay over a year. A few people practice “bangernomics” and do really well. Most don’t.

If the average depreciation is only 1k a year and average insurance £400 and average servicing (2 new tyres a year on average. Plus mot. Plus bigger costs as a car gets older) probably closer to £600 plus rfl of £200ish. And many people still on petrol and spending 20p a mile…. For a newish car the numbers given over the first 3 years are mostly over 50p a mile in most ownership cost analyses. If you are getting below 30p you are doing very well I suspect on an average mileage of 10k

I would call a taxi a form of public transport.

Mrmo has it right. The cost of driving is 50p per mile for most of us. If you get 4 in a car it might be cheaper. Otherwise it usually isn’t. The real issues are convenience, privacy and autonomy.

Fair point. Two secs after.

It’s a great question. I am in the “making people live longer” business and I know lots of people who have useful and happy lives into their 80s and 90s and then die suddenly. I have also seen some great deaths of younger people. But I do see a lot of people – mainly women – get older and more bored with life and suffering from FTD – Failure to Die – and they actually say they aren’t depressed but would rather not wake up tomorrow..

For me, I’d like to have recently seen my kids and hopefully their kids too, and then die suddenly skiing.

Or be shot aged 80 in flagrante post orgasm by a jealous husband.

I don’t like Cadel at all. Charsma-free wheel-sucker.. But I think he is clean.

I’ve never believed Contador, Armstrong or Landis were clean.

Cav would be a pretty poor doper to come in outside the time limit twice. Not sure about Wiggins at all.

Seat up your own separate playlists and synch your music to those. We have had 3 running off the same mac. The only thing we have found awkward is using the automatic updating of podcasts two of us both use.

and it is very easy to do so. Done it lots of times myself on another forum on which I think Dr J posts.

The trap of self-righteous certainty combined with saying the same thing again and again seems one to avoid.

Yep. People want to display their sorrow on a public forum and then get upset when people exercise their right to say things that might argue against them. 🙄

This is surely a place for debate and discussion and threads which are no more than a condolence book are boring sterile and pointless. If you want to mourn someone without the risk of people questioning your assumptions do it privately.

For the record I was sad but unsurprised that AW died. A real talent wasted, but she had choices and responsibility for her own decisions. The Norwegian kids are a tragedy, but somehow touch me less because we knew them less. Wrong perhaps. The grief some people expressed when Jade Goody (the “people’s chav”) died I found particularly nauseating.

+3

The way they handled it so badly took care of any urge to use another method.

Because you may play anything from 500 hours plus of music that you might meet in a year. Not the 3 to 10 hours that most rock bands might have in their repertoire. British orchestras are renowned for their ability to sight read.

Really great soloists might have 100 hours or so completely by heart.

Thanks for the Headsup

I’ll stick to snowleopard

Pah… compared with the fragrance of a retrieved tampon which has been “forgotten” for a week or two that is nothing.

Ryobi do some good deals without the price premium of makita hitachi etc

Nope. I’m the one who tidies up after my wife much of the time. Had to impose a system of hooks for keys otherwise she took mine.. She’s not very bad but is a b****** for hiding important paperwork or ignoring it..

There were enough people pointing out the potential for sleaziness and criticising a few of the posts for the thread to be acceptable and have some balance I think…

But given limited time available to mods – sometime it is easier just to lock a thread.

home made…

obviously 8)

50

clotted cream then jam

cream must be a bit lumpy. Rodda’s used to be ok.

looking better as she gets older

I’d always ask for someones permission to offer advice about any sport – unless you are their coach/trainer.

A Dr writes…

get someone to kiss it better…

Thats tiny!

Yep – who the hell does that school think you are? The responsible loving parents of a small child or something?

oooops…

At home we have 3 Macs ( 2 mini ones doing largely browser and media server stuff and an iMac) one Dell PC and one Linux Laptop. I use PCs at work.

Which crashes most? One of the mini-macs
Which is the most PITA with updates? The PC.
Which is fastest? The iMac.

The macs were not cheap – but do usually just work.
The mac route is not necessarily always more expensive however – Changing 3 macs to the newer snow Leopard OS, adding the full Office-equivalent Mac suite plus iLife (including Garage band) cost about £70 the lot and we could have done 2 more for that. If only MS stuff were as cheap. And you didn’t need to hunt down lost drivers…

But the standout in terms of speed of operation – given the hardware – is Linux.

And yes – Safari sucks. FFX is way better.

Monogamy is tricky. The alternative is harder. 🙁

getting the chance to have what they really want,

and not the courage to take it 🙁

Yep – turned up to the first place with a camera crew… and with the main aim of selling franchisees branded kit and a new image…

I stopped watching.

Isn’t the point of the article to express his view and his love of his kind of cycling – and to start a discussion?

Or should all articles be neutral, objective in stance and bland in expression?

I don’t agree with perhaps 40% of what he says, I’d guess – just as I don’t agree with lots of what say Christopher Hitchens or Matthew Parris say – but I enjoy reading them. If you just read stuff or watch stuff, or listen to stuff to have your own prejudices confirmed isn’t that a bit sad?

Hang head in shame rather than appeal…

silly question perhaps… but why aim to have 2 bikes which are similar except for the bounce at the rear?

Why not try and have bikes which feel different – and give you a variety of experience and which might excel at different things?

It is just a well written and touching piece about what cycling means to him.

We don’t all have to agree with him, we don’t all have to do or believe the same thing. There is no right or wrong here.

One of the great things about the mag is that writers actually do have personal views, and the writing is usually pretty high quality – and sometimes inspirational.

Which is good – because as a journal for investigating the industry (CRC CC fraud anyone?) it is pants. And I’ll believe it has consumer interests at heart when I see an article called “The ten worst bike shops” 😉

A very very interesting thread.

The problems are that:

1) Artists these days define themselves as artists and what they do as art because they are artists, and themselves as artists because they make art. This is a self-perpetuating circle jerk.
2) It is tempting to get really drawn in by the need for skill or craft in art – but that is missing the point. A musical analogy. Lots of great music is simple to play, lots of jazz improvisation is highly skilled but sterile and worthless. And that lovely looking experimental Hope freewheel – is that art?

I’d argue that there are somethings which might not satisfy some as art which I think are – because they really do blaze a new conceptual trail – and I’d include Duchamp, Dali, Mondrian, Pollock – I struggle with Rothko though. I did quite like those bricks when I saw them though…
There are other things which look like “art” which I believe are not. Any one of the millions of repetitive religious paintings found in most Italian museums, paintings of ugly aristocrats adorning National Trust houses which are little more than a predecessor of a big photo.

However for total vapid cynical sterility – it is difficult to beat the works of Hirst – and almost any Video Installation Art. 😈

Snap – nothing wrong with it. (being Middle Class)

Not too much inverse snobbery on this site. Which is good.

Wrong forum. Sorry

Another point which interests me is how many Masons assume that any scepticism or contempt one has for their beliefs (and a willingness to accept a deity of some sort is a core belief) must be based on jealousy and disinformation…

errr…

1) No women (outside their own little enclave)
2) Lots and Lots of problems in the past
3) P2 in Italy. Google it.
4) In my area (medicine) there was a masonic definite power base and circle of influence in a hospital where I trained.
5) The defensive tone of some of the members of the craft who have crawled out on this thread has to be seen to be believed.
6) And the people who are members might be just as generous to charity if they were members of another organisation. The Masons don’t get to claim all the credit for that.

Nothing really against them – it just seems a bit… infantile and pathetic. A bunch of blokes who feel the need to be take themselves too seriously.