I should add that what you’ve proposed is a decent ride. It might not be super high mileage but it will likely feel like it. Enjoy

Keeper of the Peak will advise on trail conditions but I’m sure a local will crop up to advise on Middle Moor shortly.

JL: if it’s grim and rainy you’ll probably have it to yourself. If it’s a cracking day you might find it busy. I’ve personally never been on it when it’s been unpleasantly busy, but maybe I’ve been lucky.

Rushup? If you’ve never done it you’ll not know how good it was. Just do it and let us know what you think. The alternative is riding on the road and it’s not bad enough to justify that.

No dancing, but good suggestion 🙂

rhabdomyolysis or tetanus

@scaredypants that’s what I expected 😆

<Frantically F5ing to see if anyone has any useful comments. Is disappointed>

Seriously, I would be interested to know if anyone else has had this.

I ride road and MTB reasonably regularly. The ride on Sunday was only a 30 miler and not a desperately hilly one at that. It’s the kind of ride I’d knock out of an evening without breaking a sweat so why do I feel like I’ve been in a man-sized tumble dryer for 2 hours? Is it even anything to do with the bike ride or is it quite simply that the dehydration from the drinking session on the Saturday (admittedly a bigger session than usual) meant that even walking to the shops for a Lucozade would have caused me muscle soreness?

It’s not the first time I’ve done exercise hungover so just a bit surprised it’s hit me so hard this time.

^ 😀

two words 😉

Mine too

North Yorks Moors railway from Whitby to Pickering: Goathland station was used in Harry Potter as Hogsheade station and Pickering has a castle which all kids love, don’t they?

Your kids might be a bit old for Old Jack’s Boat on CBeebies, but it was filmed in Staithes which is a quaint little fishing village not far away and home of a young Captain Cook.

I have a Fizik Gobi and it was a huge improvement over the Madison Flux I had before. However when I did a big, non-technical ride with lots of sat down pedalling, it showed its less comfy side. Just to put this in context I ride road too so am well used to long mileage sat down.

Probably doesn’t help the OP at all 😆

On this subject, I enjoyed reading this

Ilam Hall tea rooms

Good call. When the sun is shining this is one of the most beautiful places to have a cuppa and a scone anywhere. Staffordshire, you see 😉

Ratboy was the surprise hit for me. Impressed.

At least someone came out of this not looking a complete moron

#MysticClegg

when bojo promised

Aren’t the politicians learning? No one can promise anything*. This is unchartered territory.

*except perhaps serving article 50, which I notice no one has promised yet 😉

In the tradition of ignoring the OP’s questions and reminding people that some of the best bits of the Peak District are in Staffordshire (and 30 mins or so from Bakewell):

– The Roaches. Such a great fun place for kids to explore with awesome views and free. Nearby Tittesworth Reservoir has a great playground as well as teas and ice creams, or if you fancy a pint after your explore the Lazy Trout and 3 Horseshoes are both good.

– Peak Wildlife Park – literally walk amongst wallabies, lemurs, goats and penguins as well as loads of other animals kids will love (otters, zebras, meerkats, tortoises…)

– Churnett Valley Railway[/url] – If your kiddie is into steam trains. There’s a real ale trail on next weekend (8th/9th)

But your effort level to walk up a steep off road climb is almost certainly less than grinding up a 25% tarmac ramp at 60rpm…

The question was about riding, not walking and I suggested that something that makes you get off and walk is arguably harder. Getting off is “giving up”. All bets and comparisons are off at that point 😉

Had another think about this since my earlier post and I still think road riding is easier, but hopefully I can better explain.

I’ve yet to find a steep road that I cannot ride up on my road bike, even with several heavy miles in my legs already. The smooth surface and relative lack of resistance means that even if my legs are turning only very slowly, I’m still going up. There are plenty of off-road climbs that have got me off and pushing/carrying. This is as good a measure of ease as anything else in my opinion. I could say the same for downhills too, although that is more about technique and skills than out-and-out fitness.

Mine was going to be operated on but the senior consultant over-ruled that decision (the cynic in me thinks this was for budgetary reasons). I didn’t ride for 3 months because I’d heard horror stories from fellow club cyclists who tried to ride too soon. Moreover, it was during November/December and raining a lot, so not the worse months to miss out on.

It wasn’t as painful as others have experienced and I could sleep more-or-less OK. I have a desk job and can also work from home so overall it didn’t affect me that badly.

Absolutely agree with physio and keeping it mobile once the physio/consultant says it’s OK to.

Of course people will vote with their hearts and not their heads. For every expert opinion there is a counter argument and few people have the time, energy and inclination to build a truly informed opinion or, worse, to know if what they’re being told is the truth. This is even more relevant in this referendum, since the leave option was quite simply an unknown that had no precedent to form any forecasts or modelling for the future.

It’s no different in a general election. How many people vote Labour based on pre-conceived ideas that left wing is best and vice versa? As a youngster I used to be a bit of a floating voter and manifesto reader, voting based on the promises in those manifestos. When those promises are not kept the informed decision becomes irrelevant and gut feeling takes over: what “feels” right?

With this in mind, the rose-tinted spectacle wearers got all nostalgic about a Great Britain that was never that great and thought going solo was the route back to that imagined nirvana.

Definitely feels like a political game of chicken that has gone horrifically wrong.

We voted the same.

I’ve heard a few couples say they stayed at home because one vote cancelled out the other. I think that’s a great shame since whilst turnout doesn’t affect the actual result, it does give some insight into how engaged the voting public are. If 10% of partnerships had differing opinions and half of them decided not to bother voting because their votes cancelled each other out, how much would that have shifted the turnout % if they had bothered to vote?

Not read all that, but will share my story.

It all depends on the technicality. A lumpy/rocky/muddy MTB ride can require upper body strength, balance and co-ordination; you can be a fit roadie without possessing these skills to any great degree.

I ride road and MTB. I’m one of the last to the top of the hills on my road club rides (which are hilly!) and near the bottom in 5m TTs. I took a roadie pal – stronger than me on the road by a noticeable margin – on a snowy MTB ride a couple of years ago. It nearly killed him 😆

Britain’s soul is a little grubbier than it was before

Well said

Interesting that you mention Trump. The division of the UK as a result of the referendum and the rise of Trump both make me fear for the future. I’m not confident about this unknown era it looks like we’re entering.

I very much give a monkey’s arse. Like others I’m fed up of the crap being spouted and it makes me despair of politics. Whatever the outcome it will be hugely disruptive for the UK and I hope my unfounded fears are just that.

try this on… absolutely belting:

I knew within about 20 seconds that this probably wasn’t the kind of thing I was looking for, but thanks for trying 🙂

Must get out riding with you soon. It’s been too long.

Perhaps it’s because I’ve mellowed and I make a very conscious effort not to let bad driving frustrate me, but in my experience driving standards are not getting worse at all. There are – and always will be – idiots (and I’ve made my own mistakes over the years), but overall I find myself less annoyed by other road users than I used to be. Granted I don’t have to drive round city centres at rush hour, which could make my blood boil 🙂

If you’ve ever been to an IMax cinema then you are only just filling your field of vision

…and as molgrips says, you then have to move your eyes a lot to watch. Some people like that, some people don’t. Sitting in an iMax cinema (or sitting very close to a huge TV) is like going to the opticians for one of those peripheral vision tests 😆

I would love to see a really good home cinema setup with a good 4k TV, but chances of having one in our house are slim to none.

Interesting thread. We went from a 28″ CRT to a 42″ (Panasonic) plasma, both input from a loft aerial rather than satellite and watched from approx 10 – 12ft away. Both delivered good pictures and distinctly better than friends who had 32″ ish flat screens fed by Sky. I don’t find the difference between SD and HD mind-blowing though. It’s not like I can’t tell the difference, it’s just that I don’t watch BBC SD, for example, wishing I could watch it in HD. Similarly I’m more than happy watching SD movies from iTunes as opposed to paying a bit extra to rent/buy HD.

People do tend to look sweatier/shiner in HD compared to the SD broadcast. Not sure that’s a good thing 😆

Greyspoke has a reasonable summation. My 46 was my first full susser so obviously it was amazing. I’d gone from a crap and heavy hardtail with awful suspension to what, at the time, was up near the top end of what you could buy off-the-shelf. It was a superb place for long days out and the “long travel XC” moniker was very apt. The high BB meant pedalling over rough stuff was better than many bikes I’ve tried before and since. It was great on the technical and pedally Ullswater singletrack for example. There’s no escaping the fact it was like sitting on a (tall) horse though.

I loved it and it did me proud (I had a great week in the Sierra Nevada on it), but I don’t miss it and wouldn’t have another.

I thought this thread was about the English Defence League riding on the coat-tails of Brexit. Happy to see it was LL Cool J instead.

Dominik Eulberg is ticking the boxes so far. Thanks for the suggestions…

are you after something harder?

Not really, but I’m after something I’ve not heard before 😉

someone with the same idea, but no launch product

That’s exactly what I was thinking.

Just walked past the kitchen calendar and must admit it is handy having it visible. Is there such a thing as an “always on” e-calendar that syncs to Google/iOS calendars? I know a cheap tablet could do it but it seems like there’s a (small) gap in the market for something here…

^lol

Same with me, but I have to accept (for now) the double entry onto my phone. If we get rid of the paper calendar it’s one less stocking filler for my wife at Xmas 😆

Easy.

You and I have different definitions of easy. This would rate as “faff” on my scale 😆

Warm soapy water and this brush work wonders; the bristles really get between the teeth. Much better than anything else I’ve used, including “proper” cassette cleaning brushes. I only ever take the cassette off and clean it if I’m changing hub bearings.

[edit] – what droppinneutron said

Cassette cleaning brush by stilltortoise[/url], on Flickr

AnyList is a good app for shared lists and is perfect for shopping lists. It’s free, with an upgrade option to un-tap the advanced features, but I’ve never felt the need.

Would like shared calendars but in our house the (paper) kitchen calendar still rules for family organisation.

main prerequisite is a good camera. Coming from an S5 which is pretty good but lacks certain controls.
Which phone takes the best pix?

Are you after more control of the camera or simply the best (point and click) camera? The hardware (optics, sensor etc) control the quality, but the settings (e.g exposure control) are part of the app you use. The stock iPhone Camera app, for example, has some manual control over focus and exposure, but if twiddling with settings is your priority you may want to look at different apps.

Can’t help on the “which camera” I’m afraid. I have only ever had iPhones.

We have some that have moved into a bird box. We’re leaving them there; it’s nice to have them to be honest.

Trying to make a relationship ‘work’ for the sake of anything inhibits freedom to be oneself, in either or both parties.

I (try to!) make my relationship work for the sake of me, my wife and my kids. Why wouldn’t I? Does that mean I make some compromises that inhibit freedom to be myself? Of course it does; it’s not just about me any more. I know my wife (and kids) make compromises too.