Thats good to know. Are they supposed to be a snug fit or pretty slack.
Ive a 40′ chest and the small fitted nice and snug, but for a 40’chest they say a medium is better. They didnt have one in to try 🙁

Thanks for that breatheeasy, I did try on a Phantom 11 and thought the material was pretty thin. Maybe its more technically advanced magic fibres that justify an extra £20 🙂

This thread, might be of some help.
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/mudguards-crud-catchers

If you make your own like I did, dont make them too close to your tyre.
If you’re making an innertube type one like the neoguards, you cant go far wrong.

+1 for Fork Juice…even with regular use the can will last about 10 years too 🙂

Endura 8 panel liners. Haven’t had personal experience but my LBS swears that they are some of the most comfortable and I guess thats a start.

Its funny, cos I actually to some degree think getting muddy is all part of the fun. But riding for hours on end soaking and stinking of cow crap, kinda puts me off a little.
But if I was commuting everday, it would have more guards then necessary!!

haha, MuckyNutz refitted……kept me out of trouble for an hour while I was making the others.

I guess a lot of though went in to how these work. I just dont like how all the crap gets stuck underneath the mass of velcro straps and creates a sandpaper effect on my forks, same with the neoguard 🙁

Well a few of us went out yesterday and I put my new mudguards through their paces. After a couple of miles we hit some super claggy mud (through a field) the wheels came to a complete standstill as the mud jammed in between the guard and wheel, way too close to the tire, be perfect for the road.
Not entirely a success. After 10mins of shoving a stick down to clear the mud I got going again.
They have now been removed 🙁 back to the neoguard!!!!!

Getting wet isnt an issue. Putting your Camelbak on caked in and stinking of manure is 🙁

While treating mine yesterday to a full strip down, found some old Topeak mudguards, out came the Dremel and hey presto. The rear one is to stop all the crud from jamming up my front mech which it does on a regular basis. Ive had a Neoguard on the front and a MuckyNutz, both have their negatives, but will have to see how effective these new one prove to be.

I also have a Cyclaguard on the downtube and a Crud Catcher off my seatpost…..superdry practicality all the way 🙂 Bike weighs 43 lbs though!!

Trance X, might be a good bike but its definitely been hit with the ugly stick 🙂

That’s super lucky Crazy-legs. My riding style is mainly based on luck.

Blower – It certainly is the top of Mill Moor road. I hope you saw the ice before flying down it like a donkey 🙂

Shorts, definitely the way to do it. If I had gone down it wouldn’t have been pretty. Glad no Spicy’s were harmed in your tom foolery 🙂

cheers mate, same to you, take it easy and enjoy.

thedyslexic1 – that’s pretty unlucky, I’d cry if I had a spicy that was sliding away from me. Hope your elbow gets better soon.

Sorry to hear about your troubles. Id go out and take it really steady and like you say, if you need to push it do so. It is nice to be out on yer own sometimes and put things in to perspective. Bit deep that for Christmas Eve 🙂 We all should be thankful we are here as a lot dont appreciate how precious life is. Have a good ride mate, just layer-up and enjoy what you can.

Gonetothehills – man I feel for you, thats not a good thing, having to go to A&E 🙁 Hope you’re ok.

Iainc – I haven’t been out either for ages as my riding buddies are too soft (or possibly sensible). We had a big fall of snow the other day and I was keen on going out but Mrs Stevo put her foot down and declared I was not going out on my own in the deep snow in case I fell over and died. She was probably right.

Good planning there Mickey. It was really thick ice, Id say 3 inches in parts, as if there had been a thor and a river was coming down the lane.

ooooo nasty!!!!!

Definitely looked like a canal. What was strange was the realisation that the snowy track had finished and now I am in big trouble took sometime to sink in. I was hoping that it was a little patch and Id be over it quickly if I kept a steady balance 🙁

Yeah at least all I had was a few horses watching and no other danger.
How I stayed upright I’ll never know.

After it being suggested on here to look out for a skills video from ‘Fluidride, ride like a pro’ Just search on google.com.
I think its a good start in the right direction, but not a replacement for somebody watching you and pointing out what you are doing wrong.

Im saving my pennies for a session with Mr Jedi, just need to sort out some accommodation and some warmer weather 🙂

Its important to honest with your wife, she’ll find out sooner or later.
My Mrs needs to know she’s renewing the house insurance tonight 🙂

It was just a randon conversation I had with a friend. He was as vague as me. Sorry, I’ll get in touch and see what else I can come up with.
The thing that stuck out was that the kids bikes were scaled down replicas of ‘Dads’ bike which I liked the though of. Just wanted to see em for myself.

I’ll do some more digging.

I dont thinks its any of those 🙁 Its a better list than I cam up with.
Thanks for your reply.

wow thats was impressively way over my head but I enjoyed reading it. More to the pivot malarky that just some bolts.
I am in the second camp of living very close to said Orange manufacturer and for some reason, (Im going to put it down to being poor) cant afford a Five, although I yearn to own a skip/scaffolding built bike, maybe one day…..sigh!!!

Yeah fair point, but I still have one going for sale 🙂
I’ll post it in the appropriate area…….

Ive got a copy you can have a little cheaper if ya like. Still in its wrapper as I was bought 2.

No worries at all, should really have put the make up.
http://www.muckynutz.com – Bender Fender

Zoolander – thats just dirty and I dont mean not clean 🙂

B E A U tiful 🙂

Hey just my experience but I had one of those and initially loved it. But it helps to collect and deflect all the mud onto the stanchions. If this doesnt do yer nut its perfect. But I went for one of these, stops all the mud way before it has chance to rise to the stanchions. Any mud that flies out the front is low enough not to be an issue for your face 🙂
Just my experiences.

titusrider, I think a cheap second hand frame is a really good idea and then I could chop and change through seasons rather than weeks.

Coming from the Scott I was familiar and comfotable with a more stretched out ride. I actually swapped my inline post for a layback to achieve this. However if Im not sat in the ‘right position’the frame wont be reacting or performing like it was designed I guess.

Is the seat position personal preference or is there a right and a wrong?
Maybe my 121 coaching could advise what may suit.

Joolsburger – 121 training is high up on my list and am thinking of using UK bike skills. Maybe if a pro taught me how to ride faster, smoother it may make a difference to my bike choice outlook.

oh man, the thread has taken a turn for the HT massive, just as I was getting convinced to stay firmly put in the FS camp 🙂 I think Im gonna have to borrow one for a bit and see how it goes before I take the step of buying a frame. Loving the look of the Carbon 456 muscle or the Ti for lightness and simplicity.

Some good logic there. All that definitely affects the way I look at the whole purchase as I only paid £900 for it, I did nearly munched his hand off as it looked like it hadn’t been ridden, it was kept behind his sofa in his front room.

As far as climbing goes: I think it may be my technique Im sure but as I like a stretched out riding position Im quite well back on the saddle when it comes to climbs I struggle often to keep the front down. If yours climbs like a good’un it must be me that needs to move forward/change technique.

I love stripping stuff and then realising I have no idea how it fits back together….proper bloke. If its relatively easy and no super expensive tools required I’ll give anything a go, thats why YouTube was invented I reckon.

Arms and legs suspension. I dont think I ‘depend’ on the suspension on the downhills, my arms and legs do a huge amount of the work, I guess HT would just require more. Speed is a big issue though…..faster,faster, did I really just survive that? Phew.

I wouldnt consider my riding style to be lazy. But the hooning down steep drops way too fast to be legal does appeal 🙂 You guys might be saving me some money.

epinion of course.

wow, wast expecting such a response.
Definitely a mixed camp there. Interesting to see so many still anchoring for there Full suss, just in case. So the grass is greener on the hardtail side but not for long.

I guess if my budget could lead to another full bike then I would definitly have 2, run them for a bit and see which one gets let out the most.

LimboJimbo – I could see a less comfortable ride being an issue after a while. And what also prompted me bringing this topic up was after having a quick ride on my mates Santacruz Superlight. I thought mine was light, in my ignorance 30lbs isnt that light, but ploughing down a rocky descent the superlight struggled to keep up. The Rush’s extra pounds helped keep it planted……I assume a hardtail would struggle more? (similar rider skill of course)

pretty much spot on mate.
Had it in bits, the outer bearing just under the locking nut and spacer cover has seized. Looks like a simple case of replacing the bearing.

As the nut was tightened it was clamping up on the seized bearing thus stopping the cassette from moving.
Thanks for your help.

Had a closer look. If the locking nuts on each end of the axle are not loose the cassette wont turn. Tighten the nut up with your finger and the cassette stiffens, tighten with a spanner, cassette nearly locked solid 🙁

Surely these nuts should be tight?

Troutie also has a comparison of the Lumen/LUX drop at the side of his light as well as the DX Light.
That demonstrates I guess that different light designs and different lenses effect the light spread and usability.

http://troutie.com/?page_id=972