That last one looks a bit rude……….if a little square. Whats it for?

*edit* re-read…36mm spanner. d'oh!

Go to Golsipe if you can, tis awesome, well worth the extra push past Invershnek. You will not be disappointed……. except that everything else you ride might not seem quite as good!

And Laggan is also ace (and a bit savage).

Wouldn't bother with Pitfichie if you're not over that side of the country anyway.

There are supposed to be really good loops round Dunkeld, but I've never ridden there, perhaps someone else can help.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ3sCdXd70Y

whats with not completely welding the head tube gusset? I noticed that on the 456 summer season frame too (on the chainstays tho………)

I was reading a review by a Scot now living in Canada and wondered if it was you! was just gonna ask how they compared.

Coln –

purpose of post was merely to have a mild rant…… as you just have, not offer advice as, quite obviously, I don’t have and will probably never own a sat-nav. So untwist your lycra at the thought of someone having a perfectly valid opinion and voicing it on a web forum. Like thats not happened before either.

Its all very well to rely on technology, I have to do that daily in my job and its getting right on my thrupnies right now cos its so unreliable. Maps have their drawbacks sure, I just think they outweigh the disadvantages of a sat-nav.

Obviously this has been discussed here before so I shall stop now since all the people who have wasted their money on sat-navs are getting excited.

Like Frankie says, Relax!

Why does someone always come out with “Use a map”?

Because some people can’t understand why you would put the route of your journey and in some respects your life in the hands of a black box. Fairy nuff, don’t try to read and drive, so pull over, use your memory and prepare for the journey. In the centre of towns there are often things such as street names and sign posts that direct you to where you want to go. I’ve heard stories of people being getting sent up one way systems when the road layout changes and the software doesn’t update, so they’re not foolproof. Paying attention to where you’re going is the important thing.

Its just my point of view, I wouldn’t waste my hard earned on crap like that but many folk obviously do. And I bet the box of old maps you end up with got costs less than the pile of fvkt old electronics you’ll have in a few years! (and you can recycle the maps easily) ;-)

Did you have an Alpine before?

Don’t waste your money on more electronic tat. Buy an atlas, buy a map, you’ll have them forever. Get directions from the web. Research your journey.

Unless you’re a taxi driver or a courier what is the point of these things?

how’d it break?

what was up with the summer season?