Royal Navy Doctors? You’re lucky it was only a needle you got in the arse!

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When I was serving in the RAF I used to get a Kenalog injection once a year and never suffered problems with my hayfever. It’s an’off-label’ use which means NHS doctors are unlikely to prescribe it (I had to go through all manner of hoops to get the RAF doctors to) so you may have to look around at private options.

There are reported side-effects but I never experienced any that I know of.

Can I vote for ‘perchypanther’?

I want that satisfying noise!!

Fat Harry would be proud.

After 12 years in the RAF (and a brief spell working as a night shift manager in a M&S warehouse), I went back into education at 33 to do an Access course then started an Adult Nursing Degree at 34.

There were older people than myself on the course (the oldest being a 52 year old).

It’s never too late to re-train, we’re not old dogs after all…

(Ice) Hockey Hall of Fame/

Sure, there is other stuff to do but every time I go to Toronto a visit to Stanley’s house is a given.

“To diagnose this condition, special techniques are used to measure the amount of pressure.”

Thorpie – So I assume that you carried out an ABPI Test to help confirm your Google diagnosis?

“He used to eat a little, then a little wouldn’t do it, so a little got more and more…Just keep trying to get a little bigger, just a little bigger than before…”

I heard an interesting story from a fellow nurse involving an ex-serviceman, a ‘rectal foreign body’ and bomb disposal…

I had five plants, two are still going strong in the greenhouse, alongside the coriander, Thai Basil, cherry tomatoes and courgettes (although the latter are going outside soon).

I always rather liked a ‘sporty’ VC10 take-off.

Four Conways at max chat and the nose pointed very much upwards, some might say they could hold their own against the usual suspects.

My Nissan Qashqai 1.5 Diesel regularly gets about 68mpg between where I live (Nottingham) and work (Leicester). Book max MPG is 74.

I don’t hammer to and from work, just put the car cruise control and listen to the radio.

As a socialist I thought you would recognise the need for wealth to be distributed from the rich to the poor in order that the whole of society can be more equitable. Is the solution to a professor or doctor in Albania coming here to work as a barista to build a higher wall, or to improve the economy of Albania so that there’s no need for them to leave?

A Professor or Doctor from Albania coming to the UK to work as a barista does little to help improve the economy of Albania. It makes such states subservient and dependant upon states who can afford to employ such learned folk in menial roles.

I know, we should set up some sort of co-operative union of European countries to co-ordinate and manage that kind of thing. Any ideas on a name?

Well done Pondo, you almost made a funny.

If you truly think that the EU is set up as some Socialist utopia to bring parity among member states then I have a bridge you may be interested in buying.

For all the politicing that has gone on within the EU, who still benefits the most? Western European states. Who is at the mercy of decisions made by those countries? Southern and Eastern European states.

As I said earlier, I’m still an undecided voter, but I’m finding it more and more difficult to ally the realities of the EU (rather than the, at best optimistic dreams) with my Socialist principles.

Dazh – Ahh bless.

So you don’t think there is in anyway an issue with Western countries draining those in the East of their best and brightest to do jobs that many in the West deem beneath them?

As a Socialist I can see problems with this, especially if we ever want to curb the rise of right wing nationalism, carried on the back of rhetoric that accuses Eastern countries of “living off handouts from the West” etc.

Many in the West are happy to encourage more Eastern Europeans to come to our shores, as long as it means cheap produce in the supermarkets.

I await your ‘witty’ YouTube clip.

Whilst I’m still an undecided voter I can’t see how free migration within Europe, leading to a brain drain in the East so they can pick our cabbages in the West, can be considered a good thing?

Yes, some money may flow towards the East but what about helping to actually to develop nations so that they can be on an equal standing to those in the West, rather than just be a supplier of cheap labour?

You had me at “chainsaw”…

Ahh, my old stomping ground.

Start at Merstham, up across the golf course/strawberry fields (a short distance from the quaintly named “Fannies Farm Shop”) then through my old school at Gatton and onwards…up towards the Bomb Hole and beyond…

I had a Mini Cooper S the other year as a temporary car whilst waiting for my current car (Nissan Qashqai Ntec+) to be delivered. The Mini was pretty horrible, interior seemed cheap given the list price and the gearbox was very agricultural. Very much a style over performance vehicle in my humble opinion.

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The vast majority of the income is fixed in the contract sum that is £x per patient.

Of course of you’re good at playing the QOF game a bit more money sloshes around.

When I injured my back (off work for 8 months) I sold all but one of my bikes and quit cycling for about seven years. I later took up Ice Hockey, before climbing back into the saddle this year.

It’s just this build hospitals line that gets me without the staff, as I am sure you probably know better than me how difficult it is to fill posts.

MrOvershoot – I have current, real experience on how difficult it is to fill vacancies in hospitals and yes, if we did “build a hospital a week” (the Leave campaign have said we could, not we would) on what we may or may not save by leaving the EU, they would be difficult to staff. That isn’t what I took issue with your statement over though.

The Emergency Admissions Unit I work on is staffed about a third with nurses from Portugal and Spain. Leaving the EU wouldn’t mean that suddenly we couldn’t recruit nurses from there. The UK (as the US, Canada, Australia, etc) could very well say “we need nurses, so registered nurses will be given preferential treatment to move to the UK”. It’s not some sort of complex issue. The government identifies a particular skill shortage in its workforce and allows preferential recruitment.

Not sure where the staff fit in with this as once out of the EU Johnny Foreigner will have to jump through hoops of burning straw to bring their skills to work in the NHS.

MrOvershoot – Who says that will be the case? I could walk into a nursing job in the US/Canada or Australia, all countries with fairly strict immigration controls. Why? Because countries who require certain skilled labour allow such labour in. Given the the World Health Organisation predicted a few years back[/url] that things are only going to get worse then, in or out of the EU, the ability for overseas nurses to get NHS jobs is very unlikely to change.

And no, I’m not some rabid Leave campaigner, just someone a little tired of the absurd “the world will end” rhetoric being pumped out by both sides.

As someone said earlier, get some Jammers. I’ve used these in French pools with no problems, and given the borderline malnourishment that us regular night shift workers enjoy, ‘muffin top’ isn’t too much of an issue.

are not tenanted gardens a repository for all the cra tennts bring with them and dont want, old furniture,,cookers, fridges, beer cans, rusty bq, etc, then add in empty beer and wine cans and botles, you really have no need for a lawnmover, just beaware of newly dug soil someone or something may be buried below.

What a terribly quaint and one might say, bigoted, view of how we tenants live.

I’ve re-turfed the front lawn and have replaced one of the back garden fences of the current property we live in. I talked the landlord into giving us a rent reduction in line with the cost of the materials but provided all the labour for free.

We’re not all scumbags who lurch from one property to another dumping crap, some of us treat other house as our home, no matter how comparitively brief our stay in them.

[Quote]Working Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday on a pleasantly balmy bank holiday weekend.[/quote]

Working Friday, Saturday and Sunday nights on a pleasantly balmy Bank Holiday weekend on an Emergency Admissions Unit, when you know some folk are going to use it as an excuse to drink until they’re hospitalised!

But for the moment let’s assume they do exist then the logic is to find out what they want etc …

“Assume ghosts exist” and “logic” in one sentence. Oh my.

How about you provide me with peer-reviewed scientific evidence that ghosts exist and once we have that we’ll work out what comes next eh?

My first posting in the RAF (RAF Locking near Weston-super-mare) was a training unit for radar operators/engineers and as a result we were the holding unit for quite a bit of (expensive) radar kit.

One day we received a signal from Command asking us to scrap 12 very expensive ‘valves’ that were used in the main air defence radars used by the RAF both in the UK and Falklands. To ensure we scrapped the right ones a list of serial numbers was included but, given the cost of the items, we contacted Command by phone to double check.

“The serial numbers are as listed, what is so difficult to understand” was the response we got from a desk jockeying Chief Tech.

I think you can see where this is going…

The serial numbers were actually those of the serviceable valves, the Chief Tech had interpreted the manufacturer’s instructions incorrectly.’Lil old LAC Sootyandjim and his trusty sledgehammer “made unusable” £14.4 million worth of previously perfectly serviceable equipment one sunny Friday afternoon, leaving the RAF without serviceable spares for 4 months.

No disciplinary action was taken against us mere Stackers, I don’t believe the Chief Tech got away so lightly.

Peters and Nichols were actually at extremely low level (about 30 feet) when they were hit by what was believed to be a SA-16.

If Wikipedia is to be believed then in Iraq the Tornados got in and delivered the JP233 as planned, but then were vulnerable while exiting the airfield they’d attacked.

This is correct. The use of JP233 required the carrying aircraft to stay straight and level at around 500kts for about 15 seconds. Flying through some of the most heavily defended airspace in the Middle East, those 15 seconds were a lifetime!

This said only one Tornado was actually lost carrying out a JP233 attack (after the bomb run), most other Tornado loses occurred during loft attacks, when the aircraft were high and slow at, or shortly after, the release point.

Tom_W1987 – Member
And what got swatted like flies in Iraq?
Tornadoes.
Granted they were shooting up airfields.

Your almost throw-away last line doesn’t really have the weight it deserves.

They weren’t just “shooting up airfields”, they were carrying out the Interdictor/Strike mission they were designed for and which their crews had spent years training specifically for.

The entire training ethos of the Tornado force pre-Iraq had been, stay low, use terrain to mask your approach, get in and out quick. The weapon system they used (the JP233) was specifically designed for this purpose.

Unfortunately the heavily defended airfields they were attacking in Iraq, whilst being of similar design and protected to a similar level as those they’d been training to attack in East Europe, were both vast in size and situated on the billiard table flat Iraqi terrain.

Little terrain to mask the approach and large and/or multiple runways/hard standings to attack. There was nothing inherently wrong with the aircraft, just their application was inappropriate. This can be bourne out by their increased success and the reduction of losses when the Tornado fleet was switched to medium level operations alongside the Buccaneer.

To be honest, the USAF never wanted the A10 (which is why every time cutbacks loom they stick it up on the block). The USAF only decided to launch the A-X Program (that led to the A-9/A-10 competition) because the US Army was increasing pressing Congress to let it provide it’s own CAS, which would have put a large dent in USAF budgets.

[Quote]At best they seem to have misunderstood that the NHS exists for them – it doesn’t patients should always come first.[/quote]

But without them the NHS folds and then the patients will definately come last.

In my experience of working with my junior doctor colleagues “da money” is far from the first thing they worry about with Herr Hunt’s meddling, but it shouldn’t be the last either.

I believe we all work for the NHS because we truly believe in the ideal of a ‘free at the point of use’ healthcare system. That shouldn’t mean we do it for peanuts though.

…Stuff that I’ll go round the docs and get it for free.

Or if the can’t get an appointment for ten minutes after they phoned the GP’s, or if they decide they don’t like the GP’s answer, they’ll rock up at ED demanding they be seen by a specialist in grotty toenails.

To be honest that is one of the biggest failings of those who came up with the carrot for martyrdom, who would want 72 virgins? Sounds like too much hard work.

72 ‘women who know what they’re doing’ sounds a far better a prospect.

Managed to pick up a Fender Rumble 15 Amp this evening for £30. Spoke to a guitarist friend of a friend earlier and he says it’s a good starter amp.

Need to pick up a lead for her guitar tomorrow. Are they pretty much standard or are there specific ones for bass guitars?

It’s not exciting hi tech life and death stuff like what makes good telly, but it’s much more common than the exciting stuff those clever hospital doctors deal with and it is something that we as a society now need to provide a health service for.

Docrobster – I feel your pain and agree with you about the the problem with ‘life issues’ progressively being turned into ‘medical issues’ and thus a magic bullet or drug being sought out to ‘fix’ them.

It’s not all exciting stuff in secondary care (though I guess you know this from your time doing the rounds). For every SVT or T2RF we admit there are ten ‘Collapse?Cause’ (usually care home residents who aren’t being sufficiently cared for) or 20 ‘ETOH Withdrawals’.

Nothing like getting punched by a withdrawing alcoholic at two in the morning, just after you pat-slide them onto a bed, to make you really appreciate which ‘drugs’ are really the ‘bad ones’.

Weird, BMWs normally fail in other ways…{insert indicator related joke here}

Well I don’t expect that many people are languishing in A&E departments with severe cases of onychomycosis…

I think you’d be surprised at the pathetically minor ailments some folk do turn up at ED for. It’s very difficult sometimes to stay professional and not tell people to man the $#@€ up and do one, it really is.

My ‘favourite’ is a regular attender who lives in the countryside and comes to hospital with ‘heart pains’ to get a bed for the night, when he misses the bus or doesn’t have enough money to get a taxi home after drinking sessions in town. Every time he comes in we run the same tests on him, ECGs, cardiac monitoring for the night, even an angio a few times. All the time he is demanding this and that be provided, complains to anyone and everyone that he isn’t being taken seriously etc. Then he sobers up in the morning, packs his few belonging and self-discharges.

There are also any number of folks who claim ‘vomiting/abdominal pains’ because they rather like effects of Morphine and Cyclizine.

One of them was sent packing a few years back so went to the local press to complain, hospital can’t comment without said person’s consent (which they obviously didn’t get) so hospital gets ripped to pieces in press for sending poorly/borderline junkie* (*delete as appropriate) person away.