This news tells me that everything she has won during the last ten or so years, is forfeit. Also, that there are those, who competed “clean” but had their careers curtailed for never beating the dopers.

Still, it’s barely imaginable that we should believe all these world beating champions, actually having backround health problems. How many asthmatics have there been in the pro peloton?

Pro athletes are having a laugh at the gullibility of the public.

I pity anyone “clean” who faced sharapova while she was playing top level international tennis, with a heart condition????

captainsasquatch – Member
And the knee jerking works the other way too…Your friend is correct in that they could move and work in the USA, but it wasn’t a right and they will have had to have jumped through one or two hoops to do so.As a UK citizen I could hop on a plane, land in Paris this afternoon and start working this evening with no more hassle than if I were moving to Brighton. I have a right to move to and live in any mamber state.

Ah, yes, that “knee jerking” does indeed seem to work in the opposite direction. So, here we are back to lifestyle and convenience being the reason to stay.
:lol:

mikewsmith – Member
So again another Brexit poster can’t give any reasons.
I could write the same about the fearist remainistas.
Convenience and lifestyle are not sufficient reasons to force those who believe they would like the UK to leave, to remain.

Right. Lots to do.
:-)

Gowrie – Member
No Solo that won’t do.
Oh, that will do.

Other than trade, movement of people and sovereignty, there’s been little or no discussion of the reasons why we would want to leave. Now I’ve considered trade, movement of people and sovereignty. 
And you would have us believe you have considered all those matters, absolutely free of personal bias, politics and preference?
Riiiiight ;-)

However:
Catch 22 – in the event of Brexit you won’t be allowed to!
The irony isn’t lost on me.Makes me wonder what’s going to happen to all the expats who are currently benefitting from freedom of movement

In light of such ridiculous/scaremongering views on BREXIT. Is it really any wonder that this thread has demonstrated, for the umpteenth time. Theres nothing to learn from or inform one’s opinion, in this thread?

Last year a friend moved to the US. Thing is, last time I checked. The UK isn’t a member state of the USA. Furthermore, just as when/if the UK does leave the EU, there will not be deportations and a ceasation of immigration in the UK. Nor will Brits be expelled from the EU.

Fearists be fearing!

konabunny – Member
I woukd consider uprooting and moving to the EU if there is a exit vote.

Don’t forget your life jacket

A bit dramatic, but in keeping with the strategy of project fear.

But the Capt makes a good point. If you like Europe so much, the Alps, ease of travel, cheap beer.
Then just relocate, to Europe. No need to drag the UK with you.
;-)

captainsasquatch – Member
The more I see of the arguments, the more convinced I am that there is clear polarization and absolutely no movement from one side to the other.

I woukd consider uprooting and moving to the EU if there is a exit vote.

A perfectly sensible idea. Could take Kimbers with you?
:-)

kimbers – member
Well, yes, actuallyUnless you are gullible enough to be sucked in by all that sovreignity bollox, or plain old xenophobia

So folk who don’t agree with your pov are gullable, daily mail reading, Xenophobes.
:lol:
And that is the remain strategy. To try to bully folk into their pov.
Stay Classy!
:lol:

and I can’t don’t want to see an upside to leaving.

Is probably closer to the reason behind a lot of the remainistas comments here.

HTH.

peatybike – Member
In Of course! Simply down to the premise of easier access to the Alps!

kimbers – Member
Is it a coincidence that those 2 countries are the most expensive in Europe to live in.10 quid a pint in Norway !!!

Ah, yes. Folk basing their decision to remain on lifestyle, such as convenience of travel for a few weeks a year. Because that really is what counts and should be the only basis upon which to cast a vote!
:lol:

Voting, on anything, really is wasted on some folk.
;-)

The EU idea is old and out dated, but a nice gravy train for those on the inside. All one needs to do is listen to/read about any topic under consideration by the EU parliament to see how slow and conflicted the EU is.

Mrs Toast – Member
Probably best to leave the HR department to investigate before jumping to conclusions.

Yay! On the surface, that sounds a good and well balanced idea. However ime, 95 percent of HR departments are 99 percent female!!!
Sooooo, by this fact alone we’re not going to get a “balanced” response to situations such as described in the OP.

Mrs Toast – Member
ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DESPAIR!

Exactly! It would seem we still have a long way to “go[/i]” when understanding “empowered” women and their agenda……….”Despair“
Why?

kimbers – Member
I think someone’s been suckered in far too easily by farige and the daily mail

It think that’s ^^ a crude and ultimately fruitless attempt to start an argument. Barely worth a reply :wink:

I don’t listen to the person you refer to and I don’t read that paper.

Indeed, if you had read my initial post you’d have noticed, I’ve been listening to the news on the radio, Radio 4’s the Today program, to be specific.

Reading the thread: FAIL

Starting an argument: 0/10
:-D

Listening to the radio this morning to hear the news about that French minister warning of the possible end to the UK border controls in France.

Made me chuckle. This kind of behaviour from our EU “brothers and sisters” demonstrates exactly why the UK is thinking of leaving.
In my view, in order to escape being continually dictated to by France and Germany.

What do Hollande and Merkel know or care, about life in the UK?
Zip!

Ignore that. I has the dumb today.
:-)

Stato, thanks.
:-)

Solo – Member
original OP.
:oops:

Apologies if I’ve missed the answer to this question. I like the look of the frame in the original OP.
What is it?

I’ve been wanting a new frame for the commuter, something with decent tyre clearance and road disc compatible. I was looking at a Genesis equilibrium disc framset, but I’d be open to suggestions.
(Sorry for the slight hi-jack)

mefty – Member
We are lucky enough still to have a local independent bookshop and when I was last talking to them they were of the opinion that the take-up of ebooks had tailed off and business was still quite rosy for physical books.

Yes, very lucky.

Co-existence; Electronic readers/books/whatever, won’t replace the original book. It’s just that now there’s additional choice of physical format, for those who like to read. Horses for courses, etc.

CaptainFlashheart – Member
XC90. Big old barge!
And yes, it has heated wing mirrors.

Oh dear!

CFH. You are actually dead, however, unfortunately it would seem that nobody has told you.

Northwind may be asking for the forgiveness of his forefathers in Valhalla, while contemplating the purchase of a bread slicer. The poor left handed sole.

But there’s a special place in hell for the volvo owner!

Burn, baby, burn.
;-)

I’m currently wearing my Crocket Jones, Weybridge.

As it’s highly unlikely I will ever be in the same room as you the OP, I can recommend they purchase a pair of this shoe.

martinhutch – Member
I love having shelves and shelves of books. Makes me look well-read – until they look at the titles.

Say here although it could be said about having shelves full of records/cds/dvds. Thankfully my music isn’t on display. It saves a lot of embarrassment ;-)

molgrips – Member
Books are actually crap, because you have to either use your fingers to hold them open or both hands. Paperbacks can’t be rested on a pillow particularly easily, and thick hardbacks can only at the end of the book if you are lying on your left side, or the beginning if you are lying on your right I haven’t learnt to operate them properly.

Books are superior. They don’t need recharging, they can be dropped onto the floor and still work immediately afterwards. I can lend someone a book and it doesn’t stop me reading another book. In a Hundred years time, my books can still be read, the batteries won’t have died and the charging socket standard design won’t have been consigned to history, and on, and on, etc, etc.

It’s books all the way!
:-)

teamhurtmore – Member
So those nasty immigrants are taking jobs that nice Brits wont do

I don’t think there are many people who genuinely feel that way and comments like that do nothing to encourage me to participate here, in a debate about BREXIT.

As before, we need immigration, but the UK needs to do it, it’s way. imo.

teamhurtmore – Member
Re immigration: the scaremongering about wages is dependent on people falling for what is known to economists as the “lump of labour fallacy” – more simply that the number of jobs in an economy is fixed. IT ISN’T.

What generally happens is that migration population growth increases both the supply AND DEMAND for labour, leading to increased investment, more jobs and higher wages. Understanding both supply and demand gets an A*, relying only on supply only a C- I’m afraid.

THM. I have the impression you’ve a better econimics head on your shoulders than me. I hope the subtly of my edit is sufficient.

And for the wider audience…

Leave doesn’t equate to deportations and a cessation of immigration.

teamhurtmore – Member
However, despite the normal rhetoric, increases in immigration actually increased both the supply and demand for labour and hence tends to benefit wages or at worse has no effect.

I see your point and would be inclined to agree if I could see wages increasing. Frustratingly I don’t see the lowest paid receiving any significant increases, while the board room salaries are colossal, imo.

It’s the old management issue. Management are great at reducing all costs, but themselves.

teamhurtmore – Member
I think you missed the intended humour kb !!

Quite. Although I suspect, in the case of that specific post, we would need an immigration policy for extra terrestrials…
Evidently we don’t have one, yet.
:-D

ratnips – Member
I’m undecided

Judging by that selection of photos I’m sure you are already decided.
;-)

teamhurtmore – Member
and/or increase prices – you decide!

Assuming that was a response to my post. Increasing prices of goods / services doesn’t guarantee that money will find it’s way into the pockets of the lowest paid.
More often that money finds it’s way to the directors and share holders.

I know it appears to be very cynical of me, but companies do seem to be blind to any concept of a little less profit for share holders should equate to a higher wage for a worker.

Anyway, that’s thread drift, so that’s it from me, for now.
:-)

I expect to be voting to leave so as to change the UK’s format of the link we currently have to the EU.

EU parliament is too cumbersome and I don’t for one second believe that the EU parliament will vote through those changes, requested by DC, which will require such a vote.

As for workers entering the UK. It seems obvious to me that “business leaders” continue to demand that workers flow into the UK as a strategy against a shortage of workers, which would in turn force companies to increase wages.
It’s supply and demand. Business calls to continue permitting workers to enter the UK as a guard against having to increase wages.
I’d like to see a slight, downward adjustment to supply, so as to see a improvement in demand via wages offered to those working here.

nealglover – Member
Solo, I don’t mean to offend

No worries, my post is based on what I’ve encountered when I’ve had to address similar issues. Where I have seen the end of the pipe compressed against a washer and where the olive grips the pipe so that the nut can “pull” the open end of the pipe into the valve.

I’m not a plumber, far from it, so I could well learn something from this thread. I was just offering advise, based on my experience. I just hope the OP gets it sorted as easily and cheaply as possible.
:-D

Unfortunately you don’t appear to have an isolator on the pipe in the picture (not a dig, my house is the same and it’s crap that for a few £ plumbers don’t fit isolators)

ime, the pipe compresses a “washer” seated in the valve itself and it’s the washer which needs replacing (pence).

Some washers are fibre as shown above, some are rubber. I tended to use PTFE tape on the threads in the past, but if your washers are in good order, then ime, the PTFE is only “belt and braces” at best and not really necessary, imo.

If/When it was my turn, I’d drain the rad, replace the washer which is compressed between the end of the pipe and the valve and re-assemble.
This would be a lot easier if there was an isolator valve in the pipe, imo.
Good luck, I hope you get it sorted asap.

IdleJon – Member

Are you joking?

Nope, there really is a stretch of road heading to Grimsby which is crazy loud. I mentioned it to the sales man who then relayed the story to me. about the road I was describing.

Dread to think what it does to the tyres.

I once drove to Grimsby and while doing so, twice, encountered what is quite possibly the loudest road surface, EVER!

Apparently the surface is directional, but when it was laid, it was laid in the wrong direction.

British Engineering, eh?
:lol:

molgrips – Member
And that’s exactly it. Lots of rumours and internet about it, so scientists do study after study on harmful effects of sweeteners and they can’t find any.

At least, that’s what I found – anyone got any actual scientific studies I’m interested.

Actually, that was part of my point. I didn’t try to find the “truth” in an internet flooded with “truth” and “counter truth”. Instead I watch/listened to what those “ in the know” do.

If your a scientist/academic in the field, forbidding your children to partake shouldn’t effect your funding in the same way as if you actually “said” or “published” something.

If you didn’t know already (again a point I was making in a previous post) Science today, is for sale…..

scotroutes – Member

Were they OK using WiFi?

Oh, wow! That was sooooo cool.
:mrgreen:

molgrips – Member

Allegedly. The question about sweeteners is controversial, unless you’re a scientist.

A few Boffs at a Uni I worked at a year or so ago, wouldn’t allow their children to drink pop containing Faux sugar.

Read into that, what you wish.

SaxonRider – Member

water: does anyone else hate it?

Took about 6 to 8 weeks to adjust, then all good.

Different manufs do actually taste different. Volvic was too bitter for me, I’ve settled on Evian.

GrahamS – Member

(I’m tempted to try an experiment in the car park but I like my handbrake too much)

Best leave that stuff to Mr Block.

Roll VT!

porter_jamie – Member

goes to check name on front of building, checks signature on email – er yes, i do. i work at one.

I’ve worked for several OEMs and their suppliers for a couple of decades.

slowoldgit – Member
Add in fog lights

They have their purpose. Sadly most folk appear to think that purpose is to activate and leave switched on for 3 months!

aracer – Member

It’s strange how cars still keep wearing out then.

Only if you use them ;-)

porter_jamie – Member

sitting there with the engine running and clutch pedal down is wearing out the crankshaft thrust bearing, the clutch release bearing, stressing the mc and release cylinder seals.

And you do realize OEMs test and develop in order for their products to survive all but the most abusive driving habits.

tinybits – Member
(with a little bit of engine braking)

In them slightly olden days when brakes had a vacuum assist, it was important to keep the engine running, so combined brake and engine braking was prescribed. It was also important for those cars which had power steering during that time.

However, today and for a few decades now, improvements mean the brakes do not need assistance from the engine, ECUs keep the engine running in all but the most severe stall events. So it’s quite sensible to rely on the brakes alone to reduce speed when coming to a stop.

jimjam – Member

In neutral the engine turns the fuel pump iirc, but when in gear the car is turning the engine and the feul pump is doing nothing.

Brakes to slow down:
Car in neutral/dipped clutch as you drift on the brakes to a controlled stop. Engine revs are at idle!

Engine resistance to slow down:
Engage a lower gear to provide “engine” braking, engine revs climb, more fuel is used!

The carburetor / fuel injection system of your engine does not stop squirting fuel into the cylinders, just because you’ve engaged a lower gear and so increased the number of revolutions your engine turns per minute.

plyphon – Member

Yeah, I’ll stick my auto in neutral but keep my foot on the brake. Disengages the engine/clutch but means I don’t have to touch that pesky handbrake.

That’s exactly what I do.

Yes, passed my test in late 80s when block shifting down while wearing stonewash denim jeans, was the fashion.

Both my current cars are Auto with electronic H/B and I’ll be damned if I’m going to be switching the H/B on and off all the time. That’s a sure-fire way of generating expensive bills.

So, for those wondering why folk sit on the brakes, there you have it, Auto boxes and electronic handbrakes.

What a fantastic modern age we live in!
;-)

Ecky-Thump – Member

I was also amazed that they tell ’em to apply the brake through the corner now.

There’s the first one!

Left Foot Braking!
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