5thElefant – Member

On a side note I have never understood why people mismatch tyre sizes or tyre types for that matter.

Here’s a couple of reasons. You have more force going through the front than the back so more grip on the front is good. Clearance… I can’t physically fot a 2.4 in the back of mine.[/quote]

By the rational that more force is going through the front why do motorbikes run wider rear tyres than front? The amount of pressure being put through the front during braking especially as virtually zero braking force is going through the rear (2 x 320 discs up front with a single 200mm? disc out back). Before anyone says that it is due to the power being put through the back end during acceleration this applys to all motor bikes from 50cc all the way through to 1000cc superbikes? Will a 50cc bike really overcome the grip provided by a similar width rear tyre?

Surely grip front and back is good? In my limited experience I have found a narrower rear tyre makes the bike ‘feel’ faster downhill. The stopwatch tells a different story.

I guess I just feel more comfortable running the same front and rear as I definately ride the rear wheel an awfull lot more on the descents only really weighting the front into corners.

I have ran 2.4 Rubber Queens Front and Back. When those died I was pestered into going 2.4 front and 2.2 back. I have to say the non black chili UST 2.2 rear has impressed me at all and I will be going back to 2.4s all round as soon as it is dead. The 2.2 is totally outclassed by the 2.4 in terms of grip. The new 2.2 black chilli UST should be loads better.

On a side note I have never understood why people mismatch tyre sizes or tyre types for that matter.

MSP – Member

I find the RQ a good summer tyre, but clogs up with mud too easily in winter.

And it doesn’t roll that well either, great front wheel grip, but I prefer a better rolling tyre on the rear.

I have to disagree on both points there. The tread patter is so open I dont see how it can clog in mud at all. I have used mine year round and although they are not great in mud they never ever clog?

For the grip of the tyre I havent found anything better rolling at all. Other tyres grip as much but are draggier or roll as well but dont grip.

If you post up on the ride the lakes website I am sure a friendly local will show you round. If your up during the weekend I might be able to make it out.

Kentmere was rideable on Monday night with the HP wood and 3 rivers descents being highlights. The climb up from Kentmere hall had a lot of soft snow and was basically a push. It took 2hr20min, double what the ride that would normally take.

We have had another 3 inches of snow since then as well so the conditions have no doubt changed. I think you may struggle to do any meaningful riding but there is plenty of fun to be had.

It was -8 in Kendal last night

rightplacerighttime – Member

It’s 3:50pm just now and it’s getting dark. Where’s the benefit to people who live in the north and finish at 5?

Try thinking about how it might work on other days of the year than today.
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OK then 21st June where I live (roughly the half way point between Lands End and John o Groats.)

Sunset @ 21:27
End of civil Twilight @ 22:23

It is light enough until 10:30pm to ride quite happily with out lights and you want to move it until 11:30pm? No thanks.

We don’t get dark enough here for astronomical twilight for almost 3 months of the year and in the middle of summer it looks like the sun is going to rise in the north on a clear night anyway.

The cosmopolitan city metropolis of Kendal

Why would you grease it as a matter of interest? I wouldn’t grease something I am trying to stop moving. It seems counter intuitive.

As for marking the bb/frame I was suggesting a paint pen not a hammer and chisel. Easily removed if needed and provides an easy visual reference as to whether the screws have moved when out and about rather than checking the set screws.

The ***** word rhymes with booked

Probably neither. You don’t want the ebb moving whilst your riding. As for how tight the set screws need to be I can only pass on the advice that was given to me as an apprentice mechanic many years ago ‘tight is tight, too tight is ****’.

I marked my set screws with a paint pen so I can see if they loosen off (not happened so far) and put a line on the ebb and bb shell so I can quickly check if it moves.

459 016 on the map as HP Plantation. Hope you have a good time.

Please don’t take the bridlepath north of skeggles water as you will be up to your hubs in mud. Either ride to kentmere via HP wood or long houses descents and then then take the Sadgill BP or take the bridlepath south of skeggles water over to longsleddale. Personally I would do HP wood and then Sadgill two awesome descents with easy climbs.

I go as far as cotton wool buds through the links in the chain.

OCD? Me? Never!!!!

One wrap of stans yellow tape and using UST tyres has seen me right. No burps or anything.

Surrounded By Zulus – Member
We don’t have any climbs that are both steep and long in this country.

Don’t we? Where do you live because they do round my way. I have a climb which is 100% rideable which is a good 30 minutes non stop with no descent during that. It climbs about 500M.

DezB – Member
I mock my own child… Cos it’s FUNNY!

Selectively quoted I know but today’s parent of the year award goes to….

Hope there is no drug testing then as you would test positive for ephedrine 🙂

The 1998 (4XV?) models are quite highly sought after.

Best place I have found for help, information and a laugh is http://pbmagforum.co.uk/

I think you may have just invented that but it sounds good!

Not 100% sure I get the idea behind a mass start 'challenge' ride. If it's a race then fair enough it should be marketed as one. I think this is more a case of ambiguous wording to avoid the red tape of officially classing it as a race.

Is it a race?

I have used a pair of 2.4s for about 9 months in the lakes and they are fantastic. When they died I was persuaded to put a 2.2 in the back paired with a 2.4 up front. I have never understood the thinking behind fitting a narrower tyre on the bike and still don't. I will be going back to 2.4s when the 2.2 is dead.

I found the 2.4s to be as good as a high roller grip wise with less rolling resistance. Only thing to be wary of is they will skim over mud without biting in.

Entonox – Member

Anyone who has bought a Zesty wished they'd gone for a Spicy?
Or visa versa?

Cheers

I have had a Spicy 316 for a year now. I have to say I do not regret it one bit. 100% of my riding is the lakes so whether anyone thinks it is overkill for here I dont know or particularly care. It is my only bike and have used it for rides up to about 60 miles and used it in challenge rides like the Sam Houghton in Kentmere and it is the rider not the bike that holds it back uphill(3Hrs 26Min with 2 punctures for long course BTW).

I can climb on it as well as most though mine came with Vanilla 36's so it did take a little bit of time to get to used to postioning on the steeper climbs. Weightwise mine is at 32lb though not a lot is standard any more however I do run Rubber Queen 2.4s F & R all year round and there is not a hint of XTR anywhere near it so 30lb is easily achieveable without sacrificing the robustness.

Just for clarity I wasn't laughing at James Cracknell being in an accident. I was laughing at the idiots criticising him. Why should anyone change they way they lead their lives when they have kids? Why does having kids change anything? My life didn't end when I had kids and guess what I ride down hills fast on my mountain bike. I must be a shit dad?

Having said that I think we have been trolled big time.

Won't some body think of the children!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Don't tell other people how to lead there lives and I wont call you a t#*t.

Deal?

I have had a Spicy 316 for a year now. I have to say I do not regret it one bit. 100% of my riding is the lakes so whether anyone thinks it is overkill for here I dont know or particularly care. It is my only bike and have used it for rides up to about 60 miles and used it in challenge rides like the Sam Houghton in Kentmere and it is the rider not the bike that holds it back (3Hrs 26Min with 2 punctures for long course BTW).

I can climb on it as well as most though mine came with Vanilla 36's so it did take a little bit of time to get to used to postioning on the steeper climbs. Weightwise mine is at 32lb though not a lot is standard any more however I do run Rubber Queen 2.4s F & R all year round and there is not a hint of XTR anywhere near it so 30lb is easily achieveable without sacrificing the robustness.

Just to clarify I do not have any specific objections to this. Just interested to hear others thoughts.

Pook – Member

Can you hold your breath for ten minutes and do you have a rubber chicken with a pulley in the middle in your pocket?

That is a specific and obscure reference but, just to let you know it wasnt wasted, I got it!

Re the bike, £400-£500 on a second hand hard tail. If it doesn't end up getting used selling it on is going to cause minimal cash loss.

sailor74 – Member

thats the trouble with tubeless, rip/cut your tires and they are a write off, anything other than a neat hole wont seal and you have to cary tubes anyway.

Sorry to hi jack but could someone explain to me why ripping or cutting your tyres whilst using tubes doesn't write them off or require the use of a tube to used to get you moving again?

Whilst the re-route due to fire was enforced it would be unfair to ratify this time as a record as subsequent years will, hopefully, be run over the original (slower) course.

As the course was re-routed due to forest fires Matt Lee has already said that this year wont count towards the record. I believe the re-route reduced the time by 9 hours.

That must be very frustrating as he was neck and neck with the record most of the way through. I guess with a life being lost during the race this year (David Blumenthal) then to have enjoyed and got to the end safely must be the reward enough.

Where I live (Kendal) the Sunrise/Sunset times are currently;

Jan 21st Sunrise @ 08:30 Sunset @ 15:45
June 21st Sunrise @ 04:36 Sunset @ 21:49

Changing the clocks would mean;

Jan 21st Sunrise @ 09:30 Sunset @ 16:45
June 21st Sunrise @ 05:36 Sunset @ 22:49

The additional sunlight that late in the evening in summer is a complete waste of time especially when I am sending my kids to school in the dark in winter as a result.

The Cheshire definitive map shows at as an unadopted highway. Basically he is responsible for the upkeep of the lane and therefore would appear, on the face of it, to be private.

brant – Member

My frames, generally are combinations of dropouts, tubesets and geometries. We've got "headtubes" thrown in the mix this year too, and we're just nailing a few aspects on all of those, and then we can start to throw out some more versions and different versions of stuff we have now, and coming.

I don't expect that made sense, but it did in my head.

Clear as mud!! 🙂

Translated as your working on it?

Any news on the aluminium or steel version?

Unless my numbers come up shortly I think the titanium version will be out of my reach.

Nan bield can be done a lot quicker if you are prepared to sacrifice the gatescarth descent. Monday night we parked at sadgill and did gatescarth, nan bield and back to sadgill. 4 1/2 hours in total as one of the lads had a major mechanical. Reckon that put an hour on at least (he ended up on a runner bike!). Shortcut via harter fell if you want to knock another hour but to be fair gatescarth is worth the carry back up nan bield.

precisely – if they are otherwise equal why would you want the one which takes 5 times as long to adjust? I just know it would piss me off every time i went to adjust tension, however infrequent that may be… plus i'd need a little 10mm spanner which i wouldn't normally take with me riding.

lighter, less prone to creaking, no chance of damage to bottom bracket thread, easy to swap drop outs for geared alternatives?

How often do adjust the chain tension on your bike?

I would have thought a reliable, finely adjustable and secure system would be the priority. Not speed of adjustment.

Not saying EBBs are not secure or reliable etc. Just that extra time to adjust is gonna make flap all difference in the scheme of things.

I dont think that in this instance this is anti trail centre snobbery.

The guys above are local, as am I, and are giving the benefit of their knowledge to higlight that the 'natural' riding on offer is far superior to the 2 lakes trail centres.

You can get better trail centre experiences elsewhere. If you're coming to the lakes to ride I would suggest you make the most of it and ride trails that you don't get elsewhere in England.

In the last 2 weeks I have ridden Nan Bield, Gatescarth, Garburn, Jenkin Crag etc. etc. If your suggesting that the Altura or North face are better then your welcome to your opinion but I do not share it.

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/launch-singular-pegasus-titanium

Few photos and confirmation in above thread

How long time wise are you looking for?

0.848 Read em and weep!!

My vote counts, yay me. 😉