Thanks all, Sant Yago looking favourite at the moment :-)

Weets is literally at the back of the factory, at a guess I suspect you will be going up Folly Lane. That will be fun on a cold start. If they go easy on you then it will be Manchester Rd and Occupation Lane but I doubt this as it’s narrow and would cause traffic delays even on a Sunday am.

Check out the Barlick Tap for post ride beers, they have a very fine selection of Belgians!

OSMand uses open Street map data, well mine does :?:

OSMand does the same thing

Duster is an old Clio platform with the Renault dci engine and x-trail AWD system. X-trails are popular in France too so parts should be easy enough even in rural France.

Not off-roaded mine but it’s getting 40+mpg and it’s stable on the motorway in shit weather.

1st gear is very low but no hi-low box, 6th gear is similar to the 5th in most cars.

Boot height means you have to lay the bike down but my FS 26er goes in with both wheels on. Road bike needs the front wheel off though. 4 bikes with fronts off should be easy enough.

Aren’t Dusters ten a penny over there and the left hand drive ones don’t come with the factory fitted tin worm

Peugeot Puma 1998 Halfrauds was my first – lasted 6 months before a Diamond Back Ascent Ex (Black with the pink tiger stripes – GGGRRRRRR!) replaced it.

Had that until 1999 when I unwisely sold it for beer money

Why not do Location sharing in Google Maps?

CaptainFlashheart – Member
Any recommendations for a week in Italy in late January. Mainly skiing on piste intermediate level. No need for family friendly or rowdy speed…?
What about somewhere 15k or so over the border?

What were you thinking Flashy – although the wife has been heavily researching Val Claret so the choice may no longer be mine :roll:

Bloody autocorrect, apres not speed

Any recommendations for a week in Italy in late January. Mainly skiing on piste intermediate level. No need for family friendly or rowdy speed…?

Hypers on gravel fire road type stuff are fine, even in the damp

Isn’t this the equivalent of wearing full Team Sky kit on a roadie?

Did they refund or replace?

Never cleaned it or seen it cleaned onto the moor despite riding with some OK riders, so chapeau hutch!

Any chance of a sneaky peek at your alternative descent off of sharpaw?

Don’t worry too much, after about 18 months it will develop the dreaded boot loop, mine went last night :evil:

Climb up from Halton East to Barden Moor is a bit of a tester in the dry – in the wet it’s a definite push. Barden Moor will be dry, Harehead to Bolton Abbey will be OK too

Sharp Haw will be a bit damp mind given recent weather

We usually do this

MPV over an SUV every time unless I needed 4wd and ground clearance. Won’t make that mistake again.

Just an update following Ride London – this thing is all day comfy now with the bigger tyres (Voyager Hyper 35’s) on.

We were out for 8.5 hours and no shoulder or back pain or sore hands for the first time after a long ride.

Didn’t really notice the weight apart from when I was loading and unloading out of the car. 34 / 32 gearing meant sat down easy pedalling and able to talk up Leith and Box Hill.

Bikes now done 500 miles and not needed any tweaking other than putting a saddle that fits me on it.

Next up is a 650b experiment to see if Horizons will fit – gives me a chance to get rid of those wheels.

Used the Google Maps share location feature on Sunday with Strava running after 8 hours it had nearly flattened the battery but it worked well on iPhone.

Despite my better half not being able to train properly for last 2 weeks due to illness we still finished an hour before the broom wagon. :-)

Saw a couple of crashes and got caught in the congestion at Leith Hill buy few dramas.

Our first ride where there were lots of flat sections, wow it makes such a difference when you can settle in to a pace for more than 5 minutes!

Why do people talk of Leith Hill as if it’s a monster, :? It’s over in 10 minutes!

On our way out shortly, bit of brekkie and a 2 mile bimble to the start. At least the rains stopped

The breadcrumb screen on the Lezyne is enough to let you know when you’re off route but the mini lacks a beep to tell you to look at the screen which is a bit of an oversight off-road.

Not tried mine off road yet but it’s fine on road. They are pretty active in updating the app and firmware at present

Silica gel packs in an old sock ?

That’s a hell of an optical illusion but I can see it now

It’s claimed here[/url] that they measure up at 48mm when mounted to crests :?

Although the sidewalls are 5mm taller so maybe some extra cushioning.

Just measured my voayager hyper 35’s and they are actually 38mm wide and the 38’s are 40.

Not sure what advantage I would get from those Horizons now other than tubeless and slightly quicker handling.

Make sure the sub base is good, we didn’t and now need annual weed treatment.

Seem to encourage moss growth of in the shade.

Not had a problem with ice and wet but ours has good drainage gradients

Metal ends and absolutely flat outer ends (I use my angle grinder) made my Jagwires absolutely fine.

I use gear cable inners in brake outers on my mtbs – never had one break in 10 years and the reduced friction means more power goes to braking. Also means you don’t need both a spare brake and a spare gear inner in your pack.

On road bikes you are stuck with brake innners though. I’ve found there can be a big difference in performance and feel between different levers (Sora and Tiagra – 2 different generations of). Latest version Tiagra gives better feel and pad clearance without sacrificing power over previous generation using the same calipers and cables.

Many thanks Dirtyrider, my stelvio may be getting a pair shortly and I wanted to double check clearance before ordering :)

Ok been out for a 30 odd mile hilly ride this morning.

Good bits: Position is spot on for me, nice and upright, great for taking in the views and easy to get in the drops and out of the wind when necessary. You feel like you’re sitting in it rather than on top of it.

The new tiagra is a step up in shifting quality to the previous years stuff. The back end has a nice steel feel and doesn’t feel flexy. The handling is very stable so should be fine with a load on it.

Whoever assembled it did a great job, spot on shifting and braking, no squeaks or rattles.

Bad bits: The saddle that comes as stock didn’t suit me so that’s going to be changed.

The fork felt a bit harsh, it’s possibility a bit overbuilt as it needs to support luggage. A 38 tyre will be going on the front to replace the stock 32 so this should help.

It’s a bit porky, you can feel the weight on the climbs, that 32t on the back got a bit of use today when on my previous bike which itself is no flyweight if be using a 28t or 30t. I think new wheels will be invested in at some point as well as a 650b experiment.

Overall though I really like it :-)

Wheels and brakes are the obvious upgrade points on the full builds although a quick trip down the lane showed the BB5’s to be just as good pro-max and Lyra brakes on other bikes I’ve ridden – I think decent cabling is the key but I think the new Tiagra Levers might be pulling the brake cable a little differently to the old Tiagra levers I’ve ridden previously.

They seem to pull more to begin with to allow better pad clearance but there’s a noticeable change mid-stroke to having more leverage.

Such a shame they put the seatstay bridge 5mm too low to allow bigger tyres. The boss for the mudguard bolt reduces the height available by a few mm too.

wors – Member
Why so heavy? I cant imagine the stock wheels being particularly light

Steel fork and wheels would be the obvious culprits.

Couldn’t begin to guess about the mystery hole

Ok so quick test -a 38mm voyager hyper will fit comfortably in the fork and you could probably squeeze a guard on there too. Closer to the crown than the blades.

On the rear plenty of clearance at the chainstay bridge but it’s 2-3mm tops at the seatstay bridge. 35mm slick will be comfortable though. Loads of room at the sides which bodes well for maybe a 47mm 650b.

I’m on a small with 170 cranks and have no toe overlap.

5’7″ on a small with a 31″ inside leg and the riding position is spot on.

Welds look fine, paint is nice and mine has been set up very well. Schrader valves on a road bike seems a bit weird.

Weight without pedals on mine (tiagra build) was 12kg with no pedals.(luggage scales)

Should get a decent ride on it at the weekend.

I’ve seen a pic of one with 650b wheels in, tyres looked 42ish semi knobbly.

I think that’s the way I’ll go if I decide to take it off-road.

I bit the bullet and took a chance – My grey Tiagra small Stelvio should arrive tomorrow. I have some 38mm voyager hypers available to check clearance with.