Yeah that was kind of my thinking. Takes the total cost of frame up to the same price I paid for print, easy to forget the frame costs when you find a nice print!

Unfortunately (?) I don’t know any scouts/guides etc, but I did manage to get 10% off buy paying £5 for their loyalty card.

Nickgti – is that wait for a warranty replacement?

If so, what was their initial response like? Do they require a store to inspect the fault before replacing parts? Asking as I ordered online die to local store being a bit of a trek.

I blame this thread, but mainly I blame you – Northwind – and maybe a few bottle of local IPA, for tonight’s purchase of a large Dune.
Here’s to hoping it’s awesome! Yeah!

Man. There are more autocorrects in this thread than I’ve ever Sean.

OP, buy a full Sussex, it’s time.

like that makes cyclists even more annoying and even more vulnerable.

It’s a law change that would mean in any provable case, someone that broke the law for no good reason would be prosecuted. It would become a known law that drivers would need to begrudgenly accept – just because you see hundreds of drivers using mobile phones behind the wheel every day doesn’t mean that none of them get prosecuted – at some point.

Any cyclist with a camera or any cctv camera that witnesses an incident would provide evidence. Any change that provides cyclists a stronger position in road awareness is a good thing.

Why on earth you would say ‘no point’ is beyond me.

Which Superstar pads for Guide RSC?

The reference for XO brakes on the superstar table states ‘4 Pot’ so don’t think it can be these ones.

Currently in a hire Vauxhall until new car arrives, regularly drops DAB signal in the South Downs. Hoping the VW unit will be better

I don’t know how you could argue with kerleys point, scottchegg is right – there’s no accounting for ignorance.

Anything that strengthens the cyclists position in the general publics eye is surely a good thing.

Thank OP, needed a hub and skewer

Pics please owners!

Yeah looked a good turnout. And the location seemed spot on to take advantage

Something wrong with the vid, appears to be stuck in slow motion*

*(wink)

What are you talking a-boat?

Hmm, I often have high windage myself but I assume you are referring to being blown around on the water?

Are there any particular designs that lend themeselves better to this? Happy to take recommendations on model.
Half half an eye on this listing: https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/272222038852

Perfect excuse for a frame upgrade

That is pretty poor timing Jeff! Best of luck with the upgrades though.

Anyone tried a Titec-J bar or Jones bar on a Dune yet?

Steyning side for my sins ! Makes for a bloody good warm up though

Local but new to the area and only just riding again after a long lay off and too many pies.

Of very slightly above average skill, think ‘seasoned aspirational mincer’. Climbed Bostal Road last night for the first time since moving here without having to stop, but several years ago was leading rides on my SS.. So there is hope..

I would buy right now at that price if available

Thats good to know, cheers.
How about the chainline when running 1×10, what have you found the issue to be?

I’ve never ridden a fat or 650b+ and am seriously torn between this Dune and the Marin Pine Mountain 1 at £739.. the latter of which would require much less upgrading.

My usual ride is a 140mm hardtail though, can’t help but think the step to full fat would offer more of a difference than rigid 650b+. Possibly not much in it though.

Is that sealed bearing in the hub then?..

Didn’t think Hope did anything other than

When you put it like that, Northwind, then it makes more sense.

I even have clearance from the powers that be.. So I’m going to have a re-read of this thread and work out the best course for upgrade path. I have a replacement carbon bar that I can’t seem I shift so I’d stick that on.. Tubeless the wheels.. Change the brakes…
How ‘slick’ is the gear change? Can’t help but think about switching the shifters/rear mech out for maybe some cheap deore.
What size is the seat post?

What’s the conclusion on the rear hub? I recall the free hub being a bit crap? And how about the BB, does it last? Are there any good value BB/chain set alternatives?

Seems daft to change so many components but that is usually half the fun.

So it’s £579 currently with an additional £35 voucher makes it £545.

Blimey that’s taken me by surprise!
First thoughts, the large doesn’t seem that much bigger, thoughts?

I know it makes me a whingebag to say so, but I mention it as the Medium seems pretty small in the first place.
If I decide it fits, I think I may well put my money where my mouth is! There’s £35 extra discount on website, how low did we manage to get these for previously?

EDIT: the more I look at this bike the more I like the look of it

Moots

I love the look of the P7. Checking in for regular updates. Pics and feedback please guys

Totally agree, under the skin, the paddle shift box and engine configuration is awesome. Mind you, if you look at a large image of the general shape and squint your eyes it suddenly looks just like the GT3!

Non believers just take a look at the vid in the link, it’s an engineers moist dream.

That Lotus is blimmin nice too, how much does to cost to order by brick?

Please get one.
And please can I come over for a go?

I’m not sure it’s worth it for me – I don’t have enough spare to justify it – but, I would if I did. I have no issue with others choosing to splash out if they find themselves mesmerised by something shiny.

Haha! You may well be right

The lifetime reference was relating to the tattoo analogy.
Of course mtb frames in particular have moved on dramatically over the last 5/10/15 years – road bikes not quite so much.
From a personal perspective I’m looking for a road/touring style frame, I’d chose to run discs, settle on a head tube then just let the angles do the talking. I’m not saying I will fork out £4K at all, I was just listing how I think the eye watering figure can be justifiable.
Personally again, I’m sure I’d settle for something less than half that price when it comes down to it.

For what it’s worth, I’m not having a go at hard working people forgetting my name in the midst of a mob – that’s totally understandable. In my case I actually waited till the stand was completely empty before approaching, was awarded 30 secs, then suddenly dropped like a dog egg. Either way, perhaps you’re more forgiving than I – but it made me feel less keen to do business.

that doesn’t actually make the bike any better…..

But ‘better’ is mainly a subjective term. ‘If’ your considerations are for something as limited as a completely unique and expensive custom frame, then you’re more likely to fork out and covet your prized possession.

We all covet different things – most people cannot afford the things that literally make them drool in admiration. Some of us can afford to do just that when it comes to cycling – which is a sport that is interestingly fused with tradition/craft/mechanics/artistic expression.
Someone willing to fork out £4K on a frame is probably also someone able to view their cherished bike as a work of art.

Leave the Jr Docs out of this!

Depends, I’m guessing there’s a fair number of hours put into them

This.
Just say you wanted to make a good living doing something you love – except there is a lot of competition. You’d have to carve a niche as a producer of something pretty damn special if you want to charge over and above the going rate.
Those lugs, and the finished frames (I urge you to take a look at them) would take dozens and dozens of hours of graft to get right.
Keeping it simple, a good tattoo ‘artist’ will charge you around £80-£150 per hour for something that loosely speaking should last you a lifetime.
A 4K frame would equate to £50 per hour for 2 normal working weeks (40 hours per week) – not including ANY overheads. End result should be something stunning that potentially lasts you a lifetime.

Horses for courses, completely depends where your values lie.
For me, anyone at the top of their craft and creating bespoke wonders deserves to be well remunerated.

Falcao earned £22m for keeping the bench warm at various football clubs over the last 4 years. A net return of 4 goals.

I think that alone makes a £4K frame rude not to buy.
Makes the other custom £1500 frames seem a true bargain in that context eh?

tramp beard and no social skills, it’s part of the appeal.

Yeah he was there. I made a compliment on the name of his bike having a certain cool ring to it.. He just stared at me and I thought he wanted to kill me.
Nice bloke though.

Yeah, I think you’ve nailed it

Yeah that’s fair enough.
I think my main gripe was one guy (4K guy) pretty much dropped me mid sentence to continue a chat with another fella that he must’ve started earlier in the day. I stood there like a lemon for a minute or so before realising I was no longer on the radar.
But yeah, it must be really hard to manage everyone’s expectations in that kind of environment.

Dang, the PX Hurricane looks a good bike

good responses.
Nay, I did manage a brief chat with Mr Shand but his stand was swamped for obvious reason so didn’t expect to be able to chew the grass for long – the Shand collection was mighty nice. Plus 4K would get an awesome full build with Shand (for which I may well be in touch Steven!)

Fasthaggis – my daft forum history has little to do with my cycling preferences. And hopefully my ability to engage in half decent conversation isn’t affected either. Then again..

*ahem* one of the above may have been a guilty party *cough*

And not quite, there were a few nice non-roadie bikes on show. One I didn’t like quite so much, but he had cool t-shirts so I bought one.
Best feature on show, integrated whisky down tube flask, with tap at bottom of down tube. Awesome.