Ever tried it?

60 miles is the most ive done on the road bike and that was boring enough.

200 miles of road riding, what fun!

In that case my reply was pretty stupid.

I think its more likely tire pressure/rider error more than anything, as the Advantages are bloody good.

no but the suspension curve of a single pivot system lends itself better to the maxxis range of tyres. Hense why the Giant mystro linkage works better with the kena or Bonty tyre range.

That has to be one of the most stupid posts in the history of STW, well done.

Avid brakes are CRAP! Buy some new ones and save yourself the hassle.

buy the latest SLX brakes with the proceeds – mine stop me if I so much as brush my finger on the lever!

Thats what I found, crap modulation.

its a bit bizarre how you are so pleasant on the phone yet enjoy raising the issue in every single thread relating to anything to do with on-one

Middle class keyboard warrior innit.

I would stick with the Advantages, brilliant tyre!

Errrr, I hate to point out the obvious, but, don’t read them.

Awful…

Ok mate, whatever you say.

interesting as he/she seems to get a bit nasty when disagreeing with someone else’s opinion.

Errrr, I haven’t at all!

I know D0NK, total rip off if you ask me.

£140 for a drop out anyone?

Hazro HZ30W here, its awesome.

I know what Im on about. Smaller frames are much better for this kind of hooliganism and you can put yer feet on the ground without catching yer nads!

Ahhh, I missed the bit where the OP told us how tall he is, oh wait he didn’t!

It doesn’t **** matter if they are a bit divey on shallow trails. I spose your the kind of person that uses the exact same spring rate/weight distribution on steep as **** alpine stuff as you do when your riding the llandegla red trail.

I don’t ride trail centres and I know how to set up my suspension thanks. Your idea is crap, who would want a saggy front end and a stiff rear? That would ride well, not!

Oh god if the handlings that bloody bad on shallow trails with 160’s on, then get some air sprung ones and lower the bloody ride height by increasing the sag a bit. Then increase the pressure at the back a little.

That will make it more oversteery on shallow trails.

Twits.

Or reduce them to 140mm like I did, that way they wont be diving all over the show and unbalancing the bike because you are running them too soft.

Twit.

Cretins 😆

Brunch 😆

Dont worry too much about HA compared to an Alpine, as they’re much the same when in the sagged position as the alpine has more rear travel.36s and CCDB and you’ll love it.

Care to explain that one?

The frame will be too big to make it chuckable hence you wont get full use of the 160mm’s. I think the people telling you to avoid 160mm forks are those that have bought frames to big for themselves.

WTF are you on?

Avid suck balls

Try torquing up the allen key by inserting the short end into the bolt, placing your thumb under the curve and using your next to last to apply the torque. If you need a bit more also use your middle finger. Fingers act as good torque limiters.

How much torque in NM will your 2nd to last finger give you exactly? 😆

Just buy some X2 Evo’s and be done with it 😈

I don’t think he knows what he means

WTF is he ^ on about???

Don’t take it to heart lads. I was just giving my opinion and don’t like it when someone tells me I’m wrong, as thats all it is, an opinion!

Skywalker – do you actually have anything useful to add to this thread or are you just here to argue and pick fault with everyone’s opinion?

The latter.

You mean to say you test rode a Five Pro back to back with an Alpine, and the Alpine felt heavy.

Thats surprising……

Why do you think the Alpine would be worse up hill and on the pedally bits?

It has a steeper HA and weights pretty much the same as a Five AM.

In case you didn’t notice this thread is about the possibility of the OP being over biked. If you don’t have an opinion why comment?

Apollo FS 26?

Whats your definition of ‘over biked’ then smart ass, as thats the question I was answering?

It has nothing to do with what bike I have.

didn’t you say you had 160 mm forks on you’re Five at some point?

Yeah, you learn by your mistakes no?

I really don’t understand why people would want to put 160mm forks on a trail bike thats designed around 140mm forks, especially when they make it ride crap unless descending. If you need the extra travel and stiffness buy an Alpine, its not rocket science!

Really?

No of course not. Riding a bike that smooths out every single bump requiring minimal effort from the rider makes things a lot more interesting 🙄

what’s this obsession with being over or under biked? Surely if you can ride what you want at a pace that seems okay, you’re fine?

The more travel you have the smoother everything feels making it pretty damn boring and a lot less fun.

Thats why you ride isn’t it, to have fun?

Handling down hill and on single track is immense, and not barge like at all, the handling uphill admittedly isn’t perfect, but only on seriously steep stuff does the front get to light and start lifting.

You are right, the handling is excellent downhill with 36’s but along the flat it is shocking. Up hill is also a nightmare. The front lifts and it is almost impossible to stop the front wheel wondering.

Have you ridden it with 140 32’s to compare?

You can’t help someone who doesn’t want to be helped, let him get on with it. Some people need to really be in the shit to realise what they are doing wrong.

There have been a few threads on here about 140 vs 160mm forks on a Five, and 95% of the people who tried both said the same, it handles like shit with 160mm forks.

Do a search.

What’s the height difference between 32 140s and 36s at 140?
Edit: it’s 10mm. 1cm. It ain’t going to make any difference.

That’s what I thought but it does. Even with them reduced to 140mm it still handled like a barge.

Easy way to ruin a decent bike putting 160’s on it. If you need 160mm get an Alpine.

But what do I know, I’ve only owned both?!