You are right, all manufacturers have issues, its not the end of the world. I would be buying new anyway so it would have a warranty.

They are not that heavy to be honest

7.49 lbs is a respectable weight, roughly the same as a Five.

Mine turned up today, damn they are light.

When I’m in charge ,anyone found guilty of serious violent crime will provide several hundred kw of energy from their incineration.

All others imprisoned ,will power the prison like hamsters on a wheel. Any spare will get pumped back into the grid.

It’ll be ugly but it sure will be effective and green.

Prison will be hell, and all inmates will get the option for total freedom from chores by direct transfer to the furnace.

Culling is the only way to ensure the positive survival of our race.

Harsh, but I think very fair.

You got my vote

Hmmm, yellow, I like! How long have you owned it and have you had any issues at all? Is that a medium? How tall are you?

Sorry for the 20 questions.

Thanks mate, I mailed you.

Surely someone owns one!?

Whatever you feel comfortable with.

I was being sarcastic, although reading it again it didn’t come out that way at all.

So you kill someone when you are a minor, get away with it for a few years, then when you get caught get a minors sentence even though you are no longer a minor. Seems a bit wrong if you ask me.

I have just been doing a bit of research, seems the problems where with the old Tracers. Would like to hear from some Tracer 2 owners if they have had any issues.

Thanks Mate, works red, blue, yellow, and white are all lovely, difficult decision. Have you ridden one at all, got any photos of the frame in detail?

That guy in the video didn’t time his pre-jump too well, amateur.

Exactly what I was thinking 😆

just wondering if the outland free ride handlebar set are any good for xc bike ?

Yep, nearly got rid of it now though, but its lingering.

Dude – you should listen to your body – my mate is currently 3 weeks into a stay in Intensive care in an induced coma due to carrying on regardless while having pneumonia!!

Thats not a good start to the new year, hope he gets better.

That Antfarm look pretty nice

Why is the 456 advertised at £169, then when you go to buy it its actually £199?

Walking at the gym on a tread mill. You have to start somewhere and walking is probably the best place. If you are at the gym you can stop when you want, take a break, eat, drink, whatever.

2 dogs

I keep looking at the Anthem, its probably all I need for where I live TBH.

Walking the dog longer than 30mins kills me, went swimming, managed 2 lengths breaststroke and had to call it a day.

What do you mean by “kills me”?

My girlfriend smokes, I gave up pretty easily, just depends how much you want to.

On the Anthem I’ve never felt undertravelled going down (Only used it at local trail centre mind), but do notice lack of control and grip from skinny tyres and bars.

Stick some fatter tires and wider bars on the Anthem!

If you have too much travel for the terrain you ride it takes a hell of a lot of fun out of it. You just plough through everything making it a lot more boring and less challenging. Its harder up the hills too like you already mentioned.

If you can only afford one bike to do everything then 140mm is generally a good compromise.

My new found love for using pedals to take me uphill in search for virgin DH trails

New to cross country then?

Guitar for 16 years

Errr, that went well!

Buy it as cheap as possible, learn how to fix it all your self, sorted.

KS i900

Thats what I would get. Better looking IMO and they have a pretty neat remote leaver that fits onto ODI Lock ons. You can colour code them too if your that way inclined. Supposed to be pretty durable too.

Putting neoprene/inner tube over things like shocks and forks is a seriously bad idea. It traps the crap that does get in, and causes a whole load of issues. I think this is why fork manufacturers stopped fitting them as standard.

This is a biker forum?

I tried one on, it was too round for my head.

I’ve got new X2’s, power is fine.

17″ by unanimous decision

Cheers for your insightful comment. It was just a long-winded way of saying that maybe expecting a slack hardtail to work well on tight, twisting singletrack was unrealistic.

I don’t quite understand why people can’t just accept that some people like and suit one type of bike, depending on their riding style, terrain etc and others like another. There’s no magic bullet. No right answer. Just what’s right for you.

But why use common sense when black and white thinking is so more helpful?

Yeah you’re right, I take it back.

Thanks for the input folks

Take it to a Trek dealer if you are concerned about it and you are the original owner, you never know you might get a new one!

That one ^ lol

Hi there,

today I finally came to grips with what I don’t like about short-travel steep head angle hardtails.
BUT I still want to understand what the hype is all about. Maybe I missed the point.

First of all quick background: I am a northern, trail-riding type of rider but want it to be TERRIFYING rather than just a mere exercise. I love a 2h blast of rocky, steep techy stuff up on the moors. It’s just great to pop the bike over bed-rock steps and finesse my way down steep, rocky, staircases. I don’t mind a bit of flat, twisty singletrack, but I’m not an XC racer and I don’t have a clue what a wood looks like. I want a bike to be stable and robust with real composure on steep stuff, be good on steep, technical climbs and capable of blasting down rubble fields without heading for the scenery. I’m used to slack head angles and steep seat angles with a long-ish top tube and a short stem. In theory I like the sharp-steering bit of racer-ish hardtails as I might be able to go round tighter corners if I find any.

THE STEEP HEAD ANGLE PART

Testing a 71?, 80mm front travel 120mm stem hardtail (and yes I know that all other variables of the geo are important too, too) I found it it – once again – fairly irritating that the front-end felt so ridiculously unstable on anything steep, over-reacting to steering input and feeling incredibly nervous. For my liking the front wheel was tucked too far in, not “in front of” me, not under control, hitting loose rocks knocked it sideways way too easily and on anything steep, the combination of twitchiness and short travel made the bike quite unstable feeling.

OK, so am I the only one who doesn’t get the “short travel steep head angle” magic?
Or is the 66/73° convention just better suited for my type of riding?

I like the “long top tube/long stem” part of the UK hard tail concept as I expect it to deliver pints of semi-skimmed milk regularly and maybe the odd box of eggs.

THE COTIC SOUL PART

I am asking out of interest, but if I put a Boxer on a Cotic Soul would it still be too steep for my type of riding? What if I stuck a 29er carbon race fork on the back end, grew flowers from the head tube and called it Agatha? Has anyone done that? Would it feel ideal for my type of riding or would it make more sense to simply buy a frame designed to do what I want it to?

Ultimately I shall find out for myself, but it might save me a few trips to the florist if anyone else has already tried it. Why would anyone put a pug-ugly dog on a steel bike anyway?

Many thanks for any input!

Cecil

ps: Is there a fun and agile luggage trolley for my case?

What an idiot

Thanks, anyone else?

Thanks trailflow

I gain or lose 2-3 lbs over the course of a day. It’s mostly water.

Spot on