Isn’t that called being “born again”? Though often an ingestion of a large quantity of drugs seems to be required.

It’s still a choice. It might be a choice under duress,

Not really, I don’t think they could choose not to change their beliefs, that’s the nature of belief isn’t it?

or getting changed in front of a load of gay men in a changing room at a sports centre etc.

especially since Gay men report, having slightly longer and thicker penises than non-gay men.

Bogaert AF, Hershberger S (1999). “The relation between sexual orientation and penile size”. Arch Sex Behav 28 (3): 213–21.

Sexuality is complicated – maybe it’s got a genetic element to it, maybe not. What is pretty certain is that it’s not a matter of choice. Whereas religion is.

But that ignores all the social, cultural and environmental influences, amongst others, which make people either grow up religious or turn religious. It’s not as though anyone one day says “i’m going to start believing in God today'”

I’ve lost track of what my argument was, tbh, and I have to get my daughter to Guides so I’ll leave you calibrating your gaydar and say cheerio.

I thought so. After starting out defending the gay rights, you end with a little joke about cocksucking gays and some stereotypical generalisation about ‘gaydar’. Well, thanks for your support.

Re your earlier question: I have no idea.

Ah, sorry. I thought you were arguing from and informed position, not just guessing. Ok, that should make your views easier to understand. Thanks this clears things up a bit

‘I’m a bit gay but I didn’t swallow so it doesn’t count?’

I’m not sure what you mean by this, but to be honest I think it might be a bit reductive and offensive

Once again…

Does the specific scale I work from, have any bearing on your argument?

Do people who are religious have a scale of how Christian they are. Isn’t it kind if an ‘either you are or you aren’t thing’ ?

I think they do, I’m sure peopel say things like “I’m not very religious” or “she’s very religious” or “I’m not at all religious”

But, it would be nice if you answered my earlier questions

So on a scale of 1-10 how gay are you?

That is a rather private matter for me, but if you would like to know yourself. This is an easy entrance…
http://www.okcupid.com/quizzy/take

Is that the extent of your argument?

well all you’ve done was ask a question. At least I’ve answered one…

Ok, then so you are telling me that gayness is genetic, and where it appears that identical twins are of different sexual orientation, it is only because one of them is pretending?

Is there a ‘gayness’ scale that you work from?

Not Specifically but if you think such a thing is necessary for you construction of ‘gay’ then you might use the Kinsey scale or any elaboration of it since 1948, if you prefer, you could use the Klein Grid which has more dimensions.

Does the specific scale I work from, have any bearing on your argument?

People can, and regularly do, change their mind on religion, but I’m not aware that anyone has changed their mind on whether to be gay or not.

Why do you see it as a polarisation rather than a continuum? People may become more or less gay over time. Have you never ‘experimented’?

Maybe one of them is pretending to be heterosexual?

Is that the extent of your argument?

The nature/nurture debate is very interesting, on many levels, but perhaps not so relevant to this debate.

Well, if one line of argument is ‘Show me someone who was born Christian’ then it is relevant

Unless they’re indoctrinated in the womb by a mother with an agenda one must assume it is, yes?

Then you would expect that there would clearly be lots of identical twins who would share the same sexuality, right?

Right, so what what do you think is the mechanism of that? Do you think it is genetic?

Who am I to argue?

I was hoping, a reasonable rationale, research-informed person who is capable of making up their own mind and not just taking someone else’s post-hoc rationalisations.

See, a simple yes or no would allow some engagement and discussion. If you would rather avoid that, then carry on posting those kinds of responses

I am serious. Are there folks who really believe that people are born gay?

You all think it’s perfectly OK to marginalise Christian in about as derisory way as those Christians marginalise homosexuals.
bencooper: Show me one person who’s born a Christian, and I’ll concede your point.

So bencooper,

You think people are born gay? It’s genetic? There is a Gay gene? have you published these findings?

desperately trying to think of something original..

Keep going, don’t be cowed by these other punsters

am now intrigued to know what sort of website Digital Chocolate is

obviously!

Take them to court, see what the Circuit Judge has to say

I bet it really hertz being tasered.

That would probably depend on how often it happened

Shoulda agreed to apologise, ridden up to the window and complimented the young lady on her physical attributes, then cycled off in the other direction

With the Police carrying Tasers, there was always the potential for this.

They should be charged with assault and battery

*edit- 13 seconds out!*

Datsun s211 / SPL12? or the 510 Bluebird?

What criteria makes a classic? Age? Desirability?

This is the big question. For a long while conventional wisdom required some degree of race / rally success. Not so much now, it would seem.

The problem is that nostalgia gets mixed up in the definition of a classic

The MR2 AW11 was a fantastic car. I had one as a youth, would love to have a decent one again, probably worth getting before they all disappear

but that would imply that they knew a plane would be crashing into a nearby building, so they deliberately did’t have a back up, to try to mislead us.
However, computer scientists are currently trying to recover data from floppy disk found in the rubble. Unfortunately the the slidey back metal bit is a bit bent which makes it hard to get the data off.

Well you haterz can say what you like, I’ve added it to my CV

no real world experience

What do folks mean when they apply this to people who work at universities?

Because of the information that was held at the WTC complex and the investigations that were on going there.

We look at the situation and see the tragic loss of life, but we fail to see that the amount of information that was destroyed in those building was massive!

i know, but why were they so cack-handed as to bring it down in such a way that it was obvious to even the most naive viewer?

I don’t quite understand why they collapsed WTC7 in such a way that is was obviously deliberte

You only entitled to that which you can defend with rational argument. You need to construct and defend your case for that view and you need to recognise when that view is not defensible

But as always, my opinion is based purely on my personal experiences. I own a dog, and live quite near a large Orthodox Jewish community.

In that case, you’re not really entitled to an opinion

It’s spelt Qur’an

You big bunch of racists

actually, it’s not, in Arabic there are no written vowels, so any spelling of it will only be a phonetic approximation. As such Koran or Qur’an are equally right and equally wrong. It depends how you pronounce it which matters.

The koran says that Muslims can never be friends with jews.

Really? Wow, i thought the koran asked them to treat Jews with respect and stuff ‘cos they were people of the book.

No, but really, this whole thread is just an exercise in irony right?

It’s density, which is in turn affected by pressure and temperature, PV = nRT and all that innit

Edukator, are you a teacher?

Seek the wisdom of the North and you will become immune to advertising

“so eggheads I’ll be doing supersonic speeds in a tinfoil suit how do I slow down?”
“well we expect the thicker air will slow you down gradually”
“ah, you expect, ok cool”

“Well look at it this way, if thicker air doesn’t slow you down, then it is unlikely that the thicker ground would slow you down either. So either way, you’ll be ok”

speed of sound is a defined speed, no?

No. speed of sound varies in different conditions, same as the speed of light