My Ti ^^ up there is bang on 25lb with my aldi luggage scales ..build Ti frame n fork , Ti post and bars thomson stem and clamp middleburn cranks 650b+ wheels (blunt rims hope hub front dmr rear trail blazer tyres tubeless) so either my scales are a bit out ..or Andy I want your steel frame please…..I must add that it did weigh 21.5lb with my crest/hope wheels and old steel fork…so its all in the wheels obviously. ..