your mind is right…stick with Shimano, SLX or XT.

Pha, light bikes for kids. I rebuilt my 1984 Ammaco BMX, popped it on the scales, 27.5lbs. Rode it everywhere when I was a sprog MTFU kids ;-)

1×10 saves a bit too

Northwind, thats what I’ve done.

especially if they’re not cash rich,

Correct, only, £1.2m cash at bank.

Really interesting is EU sales £82million, ROW £53million.

cheers all, will take a look. Always like to advertise here for services we need, like to keep it local ;-)

Cheers.

Cheers.

Thought there would be more on here.

Some interesting speculative thoughts above, so I pulled the accounts.

Sales up From 2010 £100 million to £136 million 2011, so not really suffering from credit card details.

In terms of profit and cashflow, looks good 10 months ago, loans of £2.5million not insurmountable debt. 32% gross margin..and grew through the recession by the looks of it, so CRC on face looks pretty solid on paper.

Really interesting reading, didn’t realise they owned a place in Taiwan and are linked with Hotlines.

Did you find the ERD for the Roval ? I’ve got same issue. Pair of knackerd rims but great hubs, would love to rebuild them to Arch EX, LBS weren’t to happy with getting right length spokes etc.

Cheers.

ahhh great, will sell mine off for £450 now then..

Superlight 29er, fits me and I’m 5’6

you should have used a tyre and tube, protects the rim ;-)

You aint a peaks rider are you!

yup, that’s where I live ! In fact, a lot closer than Oldham ;-)

Thanks for advice, will pop it in Shop Matt. I remember on old flows I used pliers to straighten out a big flat and they still sealed.

ta.

“If you touch my car again that’s an offence”

even if i’d just run over you.

This thread has almost wanted me to not sell my Devilles now ;-) I’m though in the camp that geetee1972 mentions lighter so didnt get best performance out of them for me.

Quit a concern for me as I’m getting my 140 devilles sort out under warranty and there going on to a Santa Cruz TRC with a fox rp23 and it seems they don’t do a matching sized vipR so I guess I’m gonna

Batman, They do, I have a VIPR on my TRC.

cheers.. No idea why my search didnt turn that up ! many thanks.

I know where your coming from Mike, were from the same generation where we don’t like adhering to all the bloody rules of today. Most of my riding is “cheeky”, its more fun, and I’m not a great fan of trail centers (not what we ever wanted for wharncliffe).

To be honest, jumping through the hoops with the FE got us no where in the end, and why I gave up knowing full well as soon as there was no legit representation up there building would go wild and it has done.

Anyway, not sure what were even arguing about anymore, and there is riding to be done. Happy riding Mike.

Thanks podge, I think your right, there were many other reasons wharncliffe got busy, the inclusion in guide books, the massive amount xplosion in mountain biking, a certain Steve peat living/riding there may have had something to do with it rather than the “bit” of work we did nfour years ago, in fact given nothing official has happened for four years and yet wharncliffe continues to get busier proves that point.

I guess Mike is upset as his local spot got popular, but I really can’t see how we’re to blame for that.
Remember what happened at the time, horse riders At wharncliffe got organised and approached the forestry to stop there blasting out on to plank gate, a group stepped forward to liaise. Team forestry wanted to put a lot of constraints in place so that group asked for items in return such as agreeing to legitimately allowing mtb riding here. It’s as simple as that.

Mike, call me old fashioned but I believe hard work SHOULD be rewarded, mtbers put the hard work in so should be rewarded, crosses didn’t and therefore shouldn’t get the reward. Mike, those that know me will know kudos and ego are not me at all.

Not quite sure what your point is Mike, but you say it wasn’t a personal attack just after saying I was an ass kisser some how got my back up!

Not to mention demeaning all the time and effort put in by many volunteers up there….. Your words should be chosen more carefully as those were personal attacks.

BTW Mike, the FE approached the MTB riders of Sheffield to be representedd in Wharncliffe. We didnt approach them, I happend to be part of the group who stood up and wanted to help represent, like Ride Sheffield, this is Sheffield and Steve did (who helped on the dig days BTW).

Hold on here just because you do a bit of trail work and you managed to kiss enough arse to get access for biking legitimately up there , it was never needed in the first place I have been riding up there since 91-92

hehe, thanks, ignorance is bliss. I’d dig out the emails from the FE where they were days away from bulldozing the hill repeatedly..But I really can’t be bothered.

thanks for your thanks ! that attitude is pretty much why I gave up and wharncliffe is what it is today.
You wouldnt have stopped the explosion in mountain biking since 1991/92, and wharncliffe today is a result of that..not because of what anyone did at that time.

how the hell did we get on to this though, we stopped working there 4 years ago !

Tarmac trails ;-)

And… I’d be suprised if ANYONE in this thread actually advocates this in any way shape or form…

http://www.ridesheffield.org.uk/2012/10/motocrossers-in-greno/%5B/url%5D

Trails built for MTbers, by Volunteers and charitable donations of time and money..ripped up by motorbikes…

This is all beating around the main point though.

Walkers, Horse Riders and Mountain bikers ARE allowed to ride in Wharncliffe.
I spent many many many hours ensuring that MTBing was officially allowed in Wharncliffe.

Motorbikers / Crosser have done f’all to get approval to ride in there….and therefore they are out. full stop.

another complaint is that they surprise people by appearing out of nowhere

Due to there speed ;-)

almost a fair point, however if your closing on a walker / rider whilst descending the combined speed is much much less than Motorbike….Speed = seconds to decide/avoid.

stab you in the neck with a screw driver is a bit beyond bad language podge.

And everyone is missing the inevitable nasty accident due to the speed differential between Motor powered bikes and human powered…..

I’ve come really close to a nasty crash with a crosser climbing the legal Roman road in hope as I was descending…very very scary moment.

Still maintain fast motor bikes in woods that are populated by walkers, riders and cyclists should not be advocated due to the potential speed differntial and chance of an accident.

Hehe, makes me laff. When Forestry asked us (Singletraction / WRC) To stop building officially years ago they thought they would stop all the building :D

I awlways wanted to build down that end of the woods, can get the longest run of the hill down there and Peaty always said the same, will take a look next time I’m up.

Devils advocate here but since the “crossers and trailies” have been succesfully purged from my neck of the woods at least 50% of the old (and very good) trails ha e completely overgrown and gone!
We all have our uses IMO.

Not the case at Wharncliffe..Its heavly used by riders, stunningly daft to advocate this illegal behaviour.

O…there back again. Be carefull in talking to these guys. One threatend to stab a mate of mine in the neck with a screwdriver when approached.
I’ll pass this on to Forestry as I still have a contact there.

Day one.

I had a pompetamine for same duties, but felt it sluggish, changed that to a Croix as there was a frame going V cheep. Very happy now.

yey, great.. not last ;-)

where are the results ?

glad someone else thought it was ;-)

Can you see this link ?
Strava climb

My Garmin GPS recorded 8900′ of climbing on the 80mile. The length was spot on though !

hehe, i’m going to leave it for now. Cheers anyway.

is it cheeper now its 80miles older ?