I ended up with that pair.

They seem good (only done one ride though). I think they are essentially what they say -RC3.
Rebound and 3 position Compression adjust without the threshold adjustment of RCT3.

So fully open then 2 firmer settings with the latter being almost fully locked out but not quite.

They say DNA+ so I think that’s the latest dual flow rebound circuit.

Having said that they are OEM so you can never be fully sure that they are exactly the same as after market.

I have dropped the lowers and given them some new oil and they seem very plush and well controlled.

I have a reign of similar age and use a giro atera roof mounted carrier. Similar in design. I don’t see why you couldn’t use a thule.

Your best bet is to contact Fox (or Mojo) themselves. They should be able to tell you which tune is best suited to your bike.

Or you could post something on here asking what tune other folk have with the Camber Pro, assuming that comes stock with a Fox shock.

Different bikes have different suspension actions hence different tunes. But a lot depends on rider weight and style too.

Thanks Simon, is there just the one tune label on it?

Arbie, trouble is if I put more air in there will be even less rebound making it return too quick.

Cheers Homer. XTR chain for £24.

Bumped for the daytime folk.

I presumed the year wouldn’t matter as I think they are still the same shock lengths and leverage ratios / suspention design.

I have one of the earlier ones but with a newish rockshox monarch rt3. M rebound H3 compression high volume. Struggling to get it set up right. Find that I’m close to the max psi (250,30% sag, max is 275) and struggling to get enough rebound on it.

Just after an idea of the ideal tune of different shocks.

Good question. I went the other way round fitting some superstar grips with official lock on lock rings and I had to both shorten and thin the plastic part that goes into the lock ring. Which should mean that the odi grips will fit inside the superstar lock rings with room to spare. Whether it grips it enough to stop it spinning is another thing?

Essentially no, I don’t know for definate. Sorry.

Being new there will be some initial stiction to the seals. Will be fine when it’s built up I’m sure.

If its a particularly good rim that’s in decent condition that you wish to keep it might be worth getting a good wheel smith to build it up with a hub of your choice but you need to factor in spokes and labour costs too.

Otherwise you may be better off buying a full wheel be it pre built or hand built to order from somewhere and trying to sell yours.

Weigh up the costs and decide from there.

I had a black lab. He was a bit of a liability at first but soon got the idea. On the ups he learnt he could go exploring to his hearts content in front then on the downs taught him to stay behind. He loved it too.

Just be careful not to over work them whilst they are young. Can cause health problems later down the line.

But get one. You won’t regret it.

As above. I get the same thing but i find its down to over concentrating and not blinking. Once I blink a few times its fine.

It’s difficult with fixed 160 forks as all frames built for that amount of travel will be fairly stiff- I can’t tell much of a difference between either of the title frames and the Ragley Mmmbop I’m riding now. And at that amount of travel will be compromised to a certain extent for uphill and best suited for proper DH.

I guess these types of frames are designed to be versatile in that they take different travel forks but there will always be a compromise depending on how they are built up.

That said if you don’t mind a bit of wandering at the front on steep ups its not too much of an issue.

Suppose thats kind of the nature of the beast with frames such as them. It was definately worse on the BFe than the surge though. But the BFe was short, probably the smallest 16” i have ridden and felt to have shorter stays too so that makes sense. I don’t think I would want to ride the BFe as an all round bike with 160 forks. It would be very slack both on the HA and SA. But as already said as a DH hardtail I think it would be very very good.

I think if its for all round riding it would be ideal to have a travel adjustable fork on both of them. But if not the surge would be better in my opinion.

Have you thought about any other frames? Why those two?

Re the size I’m 5’7” and when I said i had the m surge it’s the smaller of the two as they are labelled as medium and large?

I have had a mk1 surge (m) and a mk2 BFe (small/16”).

I preferred the surge for all round riding. Had 160 domain u turns so could wind them down for tamer stuff. It was heavier but I imagine that was more down to the parts on it as opposed to the frame. Felt that although it was billed as a freeride frame it was better all round.

The BFe had 150 revs but felt very slack on the seat angle and I felt like a lot of my weight was over the back. That said it was a very fun bike. It was very easy to manoeuvre and pop the front end over stuff. Would be good for full on DH. It seemed better made too and is British so to speak.

Hope this helps

It seems like a real design flaw. Surely everyone will eventually get some dirt or debris in the mechanism.

Will try guarding it from the back with an old tube and see how it goes.

Stu, a pic would be great.

Scot- that sounds like a Lev.
Northwind- there’s still a slot located at front isn’t there? I also need a bit of layback too.

Rubber protection at rear (of the saddle) sounds like the best option I think.

Ta Stu. Had that thought. Front and back?

Managed to get a Rab arête for about £70 from go outdoors.
Only down side is it has no hood but for the price can’t really complain.

Me too. Thank you. Must be able to use them multiple times.

Mtb fix, it’s down the outer edges as though the shoe is too tight. I do have wide feet but the AM shoes seem pretty wide. And the shoes haven’t seen masses of use so I don’t think they will of softened too much.

Thanks everyone. I might have to try some insoles. Or maybe a shimano DX with a bigger cage to support the outer of the shoe more.

I do have an appointment to see a podiatrist as I have been having issues with my calfs/knees from running so it may well be that I end up with some anyway.

Ta Was, il try that.

Marty, Iv tried under tightening them and it doesn’t make a difference.

Thanks everyone for the help. Think I have sorted it.

Rolkin, never got ur email but thank you.

Simon

Pete,

The eBay item is for the holders as opposed to the stops.
Thanks for the help though.

Simon

I have just got one of these myself. Not built up yet though. Will be building up at Xmas time.

Went with medium blue frame, and will be putting some u turn domains on it. Nice short stem, full deore kit, cheap wheels off classifieds, long FSA seat post (the seat tube is very short).

Should build up into a good, cheap and versatile bike.

I have a black Lab (working stock) and he goes everywhere with us. He will happily do 20 mile without a problem.
Having said that you have to moderate the trail centre and hard pack surfaces to avoid problems with their pads and nails.

As im sure you are aware they are very obediant. He goes ahead on the climbs and then sits behind me on the decents.

As has already been mentioned for long distances it would have to be working stock ie the slightly slimmer type.

He is never happier than when out with us on the bikes!

I recently bought a Panasonic Viera TX-P37X10B plasma. Its 37". Has 100hz (good for fast moving pics) and has a really good picture both normal def and HD. Only thing is its not full HD but I do have a blu ray player and the difference is amazing. Apparantly you are better off getting a good quality screen over a poorer one with full HD.
It seems to get good reviews and you can get them for below £500.

Roads were fine. Most of them have nice wide shoulders (almost comparable to bike lanes over here!) and they weren't all that busy. Did Vancouver Island as well.Set off from Vancouver over to the island. Rode down to Victoria. Then ferry to Washinton State and down from there.

Could not recommend it enough.

About 7 years ago rode from Vancouver to San Francisco down the coast. Also did some MTBin on North Shore / Whistler. The touring was awesome camping at state parks for a few bucks a night.A lot of them are either in beautiful forrests or right on the beach. You also get to see Seattle / San Fran both of which are cool places as cities go. Vancouver is by far the best city i have been to though.

Was supposed to cycle all the way to LA but loved the North Shore so much went back up for some more.

I went to saalbach a couple of years ago.
If you wanted to do some xc singletrack type stuff it would be worth trying a guide as the maps aren't particularly good and we found it difficult to locate that type of riding where bikes were actually allowed on (youre not supposed to ride on the main walking tracks). Did manage to find a couple of really good rooty single track type trails though and i am sure there would be loads more.

The bike parks aren't massive but are easy to get to.

Leogang is the better one and just over the valley from Saalbach. Its easy to get to by using the lift from Saalbach then a 20/30 min fire road ride to the top of the Leogang lift. From the top of there there is a good but moderately technical dh trail running down the RH side of the lift. i found it to be awesome in the dry but very tough in the wet as it is very rooty and pretty steep. Then from the middle lift station there are a few tracks down to the bottom. The official DH track is quite technical.the FR is good fun and is all rollable. and there is an easy wider track also with a few very small jumps. At the bottom are dirt jumps and north shore type stuff. Some is big some is good for practice.

Hinterglemm again is a 10 min ride up the valley on the road. There is the Adidas FR park. There are a few trails here but they are slightly easier than Leogang.

And there is another DH trail in Saalbach but this was not open when we were there so can't comment.

as for nightlife it was dead when we went but it was just before the main summer season. There are loads of places to eat though both at Saalbach and Hinterglemm.

Hope this helps and sorry if i have gone on!
Simon