I have family in Both Cornwall & Devon. Location is important, Near a main road, not to far into Cornwall to attract not Cornish types!

Scott – wednesday would be perfect!! you not at Fluor are you?

Yes

I work at fboro business park, Can show you round Tunnel hill or Caesar’s camp after work. Wednesday night?

Or both linked with the canal for a longer ride

kimbers – Member

The final descent is closed

But we did it early on a Sunday morning and only the last couple of hundred meters is actually unrideable

I was with Kimbers and also the signage on ClimachX is rubbish!

oldtalent – Member

On roots and rain you have an entry for Southern Enduro, venue TBA 1st November 2015.
I assume this is inaccurate?

It’s still a faint possibly.
I have all the paperwork, insurance quote & route planned. However the venue is going through a transition period with it’s lease. Which mean unless that’s sorted I can’t use the venue.

That why I have to been taking about it. I am in close contact with the committee so if the lease does get sorted I will start banging on about it.

Looking forward to the promised 4 race series next year, any more details Scott?

Southern enduro:
In 2016 We will be running 4 round series in the south east.
I am working on 2 new private venues that currently have no trails and are not on chalky hills like QECP.

They will be run very much like the QECP races. Friendly and fun.

Check out the southern enduro Facebook and twitter for updates.

Well what can I say! That was pretty insane!
By far the most challenging race I have ever organised but strangely the most successful in term of going smoothly.

The weather was bad from the start but we are lucky It started raining again. I say this all the time QECP is best in the dry or the rain.
After it rains it rubbish because you end up on the mud not cutting through to the hard stuff underneath.

Some question answer/Points:

One question, did anyone else think the transition times were very generous?

Yep, we want to keep it fun and friendly for all. Don’t want to knacker people out on the transitions. Save you energy for the stages etc… With the timing system we can be flexible with the start and stage 3,4 & 5 all ran ahead of schedule to get people to the finish as quick as possible to cut down the waiting at the top.

Surprised the medic’s weren’t more busy.

Dry condition tends to be worse for the medics, much higher speeds and harder ground. Chatting to the medic post event they where very happy with how the event was run and said the are keen to work together again.

And what about that cheeky climb out at the end of stage 3?

Original plan was to end that stage at the fire road. I am pleased we decided to shorten it a bit but may could have shortened it a little more 😉

Stage 4 end, we made the decision to take out mini steep after practice, It was clear that it was to hard for 50% in practice, even for the people can weren’t struggling on it I would not of been safe to past people walking/sliding down it.

i did more work on S5 this year hope you liked that?).

That confused the hell out of me when QECP team rider Karl was talking to me about the bus stops on s5, I was like “What bus stops?” 😯
BTW Smiff cheers for all your help with taping and detaping.

Big thanks to all the helped and to everyone that races in the rain!

One of the biggest shout outs must go to Mattbee wife who persevered to finish the race! Clearly struggling in places but at the same time always having a smile on her face.

Thanks for all the positive feedback too, it make it worth while. Next stops, sort out the Southern enduro series for next year 🙂

Or locking his keys in the car 😉

HR/NN should be fine it would be muddy (ground is still hard) but it will be sloppy. Low tire pressure is good advice.

Shorty on front and trail tire on back will be a good combo.

The worst time for grip at QECP is the day after it rains. Rain on the day should just make it fun/funny 😉

Stages 2 & 3 proberly have the most new bits

I will be there in the rain tomorrow taping the trail. For some reason I’m really looking forward to it 🙂

bob_summers – Member

Interesting, saw on the news my LBS (Orbea dealer) was recently robbed, 35,000€ of stock taken. We’re in San Sebastian but police think everything would have gone straight out the country, unlikely to be sold on locally. Will pass it on.

Did the shop also sell Ridley bikes?

Yep you need a DH bike for Aston Hill:
https://www.rootsandrain.com/photos/523891 😈

oldtalent – Member

Wow I did not know that. I know a few who would have had it, will remember that for next time.
That only really applies after we have release the start time and closed the reserve list.

Joe YGM, found a buyer from the reserve list.

Does that mean I’m in?!?!

YGM

About 30 on there

You are, just got FB message from a French hospital. I will be emailing you tomorrow 😉

He was sitting at the top of the trail when we got there with a Whyte rider (looked geared up, maybe a sponsored guy, Pete ????)

I think he is on here, getonyourbike or something like that.

We have had 4 drop out in the past 5 days so you are going up the list 😉

Pics look good, must try a red kite enduro this year.

Cheers for the email that will really help me out with a race venue I have.

ninfan – Member
Well, technically you’re both wrong, because you can race on a footpath – its bridleways that you can’t

Can you? If you could PM me with more info that would be great. Email in profile.

whitestone – Member

You were comparing the current situation in an incorrect manner not what might be if the law in England was changed. Therefore your comparison remains pointless.
OK

whitestone – Member

But the Scottish path isn’t legally designated as a footpath so the comparison is pointless.
But if the English path was legally designated like the Scottish path you could race on it like they do in Scotland. I know it’s not at the moment but it could be.

grumpysculler – Member

The FC seem to be growing ever more hostile toward MTB events
is this because of budget restrictions or is their something else afoot…..

Events are completely different and not covered by right to roam in Scotland, nor should they be IMHO. [/quote]

But in Scotland with the land owners permission you can race down a path that would be a footpath in England. You can’t do that in England even if you have rented the land.

2 different locations:

Both with in 30mins of Thessaloniki Greece’s 2nd biggest city. Fights £100ish return.

Both trail heads: http://bit.ly/1CAEPLe

Plus urban DH race??

Personally as a punter:

FF helmet rule not big deal as I got one but not communicated to us well.

Insurance not a big deal as I can get it for £17 but not communicated to us well.

Champs cancellation bigger deal for me, been training hard for it, spent money on accommodation but not big deal still going to go up there and riding my bike. but not communicated to us yet unless you are on Facebook.

All in all I don’t think any of these would be an issue if we where told why, when how etc.. So PR failure ?? I guess so, shame because they run excellent races.

http://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=3389387

Sorry my bad, it’s rd 3

Legend – not anymore

paddyb – Member

Pity about eastridge, its always one of the best rounds

Agree, UKGE at Eastridge is one of me favourite enduro races to date!

Disappointed. Was considering eastridge to but not anymore.

I want it to go ahead for selfish reasons too.
Spent £200 on accommodation, sorted out insurance and talked myself into wearing a FF for 50km two day in a row.

I was really looking forward to it to, both UKGEs I have done to date have been ace.

its a well of negativity in here!!

P.S UKGE doesn’t have a Hardtail Cat, it’s rubbish 😈

I think the UCI might be Adopting Emba’s rule for enduro. Not 100%

BC already have that, so why not work with that as a basis?

BC have never had standards for Enduro, So we will use EMBA standards as a basis. However the QECP Enduro Rules are currently based on BC rules and standard (the ones that apply anyway)

The Enduro Mountain Bike Association (EMBA) was created in 2012 to develop the discipline of enduro mountain biking around the world.

Well you are double counting a bit there – EWS in UK is run by Tweedlove

EWS representative was not from Tweedlove.

This is the reason we(the race organisers) are looking to form
standards e.g. safety, marshalling, communications, minimum medic coverage Signage, Taping etc. Have all be diccuss and come 2016 we should have a standards to follow.

Yes all races won’t be on board but that is there choice, all where invited.

No I don’t work for BC.

#fanboy 8) 😉 8)

Who was on this panel of organisers?

We hold meeting at BC head quarters but I would prefer the pub. On the enduro panel (Sorry for lots of acronyms):

EWS
UKGE
Mini Enduro
NDH
QECP (Me)
SES
nofuss
tweedlove
redkite
WES
PMBA
WGES