okay, never mind not falling off, massive bruises on my hips from landing on the drive, and bruises on my knees from where the bike fell on me :( will persevere, but if I decide they aren't for me, I will have some very slightly used Scott comps shoes for sale :P Skiprat, that'd be good, will make sure I have enough pocket money by then. might have a job at the lbs soon too :D :D wages will be spent on bike parts anyway :lol: