Pooks Peaks Pootles are definitely socials, no one minded waiting for me and robdob and the ups. I remember that one rob, the push up from the ashes in the snow when i was completely shattered. That was the most earned burger i have ever had! i now ride with a group every saturday, often with Nick Craigs son. Stupidly quick uphill and down, the genes have obviously been passed on. Grrrrrrr.