‘The e-bike is a powered device though’

Right, like a chairlift…….or a shuttle van & trailer…….you’re right it’ll never catch on …..

A motor on a bicycle is all wrong for me aesthetically, like an outboard motor on a surfboard.

It’s indecent on some level and undignified.

I guess that’s the difference between some cyclist who value the purity of a purely human powered experience and others who value an adrenaline fix and ‘getting radical’?

 Every time we speak he raves about his e-bike – and tells me he’s fitter than ever.

Maybe if he got a motorbike he’d get even fitter? :D

And these heavier and faster e-bikes tearing up the tracks and expecting actual cyclist to get out of their way? :D

Surely at some point they must be restricted to their own tracks?

People are kidding themselves when they say they are only getting an e-bike to be able to do the 3 hr ride when they can normally only manage a 2 hr ride.

Pretty soon you will be dependent on it.

And batteries will get a bit more capacity and you’ll be doing even less actual cycling.

You seem to have misunderstood what a bike is for.  It is to get somewhere more quickly/with less effort than on foot.  An eeb get’s you there even more quickly with even less effort.

The e-bike is a powered device though.

I didn’t mean to offend you but I just gave my opinion which is that they are silly :D

A labor saving bike makes no sense to me because the point of a bike is to get some exercise. If you find using your legs too much of a chore then maybe get another hobby?!

FYI I can kind of see the point for commuting or for old people.

Otherwise they are just a seductive way to get people to buy a lazy persons gadget without acknowledging that fact.

Just get a motorbike then. An e-bike is just a silly half-way house, neither one nor the other.

I try to now I’m 40. My muscles tend to tighten up and I have back problems so stretching helps.

They are for the weak!

Love the way the video promps you to blame the cyclist by saying that a cyclist almost collided with a van instead of the reverse.

A direct answer to your question though is yes my Ebike is a lot more fun than my first MTB back in 86.

It’s my feeling that fun levels just normalise out as technology gets faster/stronger/better.

When I was a kid I could have loads of fun on a shitty BMX, but now that I’ve experienced long travel bikes and specially design trails it would be hard to go back, but If I’d never experienced the latter I think I would still be having loads of fun on the old shitty bikes.

You get the adrenaline or dopamine hit and then get used to it.

<span style=”font-size: 0.8rem;”>The boredom is just too much, 40 mins in and I’m wanting to go harder. One hour in and it feels like I’ve been on the turbo for 4 hours and want to get off.</span>

I know some people need goals but this to me is just a way to ruin the fun of cycling.

After years of back problems I feel lucky to be able to ride without too much pain.

Basically, Glycogen last maximum 90 mins, mostly less and is used above the Z2 ceiling.  Once this is gone, essentially your body defaults to stored fats and carbs and back into Z2 which is also a much less efficient metabolism.

That’s not quite true. To ride with no glycogen is to be bonked. I assume you know what that feels like? It’s more like you body uses glycogen all the time riding but at lower power levels it also consumes significant stored fat too. The pro-riders aren’t doing long rides because their Z2 is so high but because they eat a lot on their rides too.

U can use G-clamps to press them in.

More riding = more fun to me.

I do wonder though, does the e-biker of today really have more fun that he/she would have done 30 years ago on a rigid MTB? Are there really more smiles?

Loads of fat bikers near me normally on e-bikes :D

when someone is injured by some one on an derestricted ebikes. Once the media jumps on the bandwagon we will all be tarred with the same brush

Yeah it’s only a matter of time. The Daily Mail have a hard on for cyclists and e-bikers are surely a category even more easily scapegoated because they actually have motors, weight more and go faster.

If Bush owns the land they can do what ever they want.

Does he?

I’ll never ride an e-bike. Don’t believe in them.

Are they allowed on the footpath?

12 year old torque wrench. Very nice to know how much torque you are applying.

Is it for commuting?

Wilier Jaroon/Jareen might be suitable despite being ‘adventure bikes’?

I got a Jaroon with Rival 1×11 for £1300 at CRC reduced from over 2k.

I put some 32mm mixed use tyres on and it’s good to go as a commuter. Has mounts for mudguards and rack.

Not a light bike but I don’t mind for what I need it for.

Where can you do the same for cycling shoes? No one seems to have a decent range and I don’t want to buy online because the fit is way too important.

It’s very common online now to be able to send back returns for free. My mate sells sports shoes and often a customer will order two or three sizes. They keep the one that fits and send back (for free) the other pairs.

It was always my understanding that semi-serious cyclists on the continent tended to wear a mix and match of kit, at least this was true in Italy where people would rock up to group rides wearing all sorts even t-shirts.

Wearing full Sky kit in the UK certainly make me cringe a bit especially if riding some middle-class aspirational brand like Pinarello.

As of last week Thomas was still on an extended break.

Not asthma related I hope?

Managed to back it off just think it was over torqued a bit from CRC

Strange cos the rear axle was barely tight.

A ghost?

I’m pretty suspicious of carbon bars anyway.

Is saving 100 g really worth the extra risk of face planting into the stem?

Base fitness takes a long time to build as mentioned this is why it takes months to lose. You can’t build a base in 6 weeks more like 6 months.

I’m currently having a 6 week break from cycling cos had to go overseas with work. I’ve done a bit of cycling on cycling machines just 30 mins maybe 2 out of 3 days but currently have a cold so resting.

It’s really frustrating me cos I got quite fit this year. Hopefully can do 2 months of solid riding over Dec and Jan and be back to where I was. Then commute most of next year 25 miles a day.

Yeah it’s largely a myth for me that fitness comes back faster if you have been fit before, except for the fact that you have the know how for how to get fit and how to ride a bike. Having been very fast and fit on a bike years ago I now feel like I have a template in my head. I know how ride at sustainable pace, what ‘red zoning’ it feels like, how to pedal smooth, etc, how to put in base miles and how to recover.

Having said that I used to lift a lot of weights when I was younger and I feel I gained permanent or extra? motor control over the muscle groups that I trained or muscle memory or something. I don’t know if this means I would get stronger faster but I feel I have more awareness of my body or something? Hard to explain.

Can you use both centre lock and 6 bolt with the Shimano brakes? It just depends on your wheel/hub right?

I’m a bit out of date with the tech so just wondered.

I used to be into this years ago but as someone said it can all get a bit vulgar and consumerist.

He wasn’t convicted of failing to stop or failing to report, so the deer thing isn’t really relevant. Presumably the CPS didn’t pursue because the likelihood of a different sentence was low.

The deer thing IS the reason they didn’t press charges even for failing to stop. Like I said it’s a legal fiction which provides reasonable doubt.

Ride your bike in a careful sensible manner

It’s not complete clear what that is or isn’t on a bike though compared to a car.

What is dangerous cycling? Especially since a bike only weighs about 10 kg. Clearly riding a bike (10kg) 1 mph over the speed limit vs driving a car (2000 kg) 1 mph over the speed limit, doesn’t carry the same level of danger to other road users. Is case law and jury advice relating to motor vehicles just automatically going to apply to bicycles? That would be stupid.

To me the whole thing makes no sense except coming from this point of view where a minority of motorists simpily want vindication and revenge against those cyclists ‘who hold them up’ and ‘ride on their road’; the subtext is that the road belongs to the motorist and everyone else should make way. The proposed legislation formalises this since it asks for the motorists’ laws to apply to cyclists which only makes sense if you believe the roads belong to motorists first and foremost.

For me the main issue is that I ride on canal tow paths a lot. I’ve never had a collision but have had some near misses. If the law treats my bike as a de facto 2000 kg car being driven along the canal towpath I now feel much more open to liability strict or otherwise.

Perversely that could work in cyclists favor since current transport policy and planning over forces cyclists and pedestrians onto the same paths or lanes/paths in very close proximity. If the bike is to be treated like a 2000 kg in law then this would have to change. Bikes and pedestrians could be forced apart.

Like I said bikes only weight about 10 kg so the law should take this into account. The alternative is that all road users should be subject to the same ‘dangerous driving’ laws and burden proof and liability consequences as motorists, including skateboarders, children on bikes, maybe even kids with those wheels in their shoes?

Mmm, 1. Making people “report” everything rather than “stop” would not really help at the scene; 2. would clog up a resource strapped police with people reporting stuff like hitting a rabbit; 3. You’d like to have hoped that the investigating officer, or the CPS asked the questions “if you thought it was a deer, did you not think it would be sensible to stop and check if the deer was now blocking the carriageway and presumably a risk to other road users?

There is already a duty to report collisions with a wide range of animals:

If you hit an animal which is covered by The Road Traffic Act 1988 – namely, <b>dogs</b>, <b>goats</b>, <b>horses</b>, <b>cattle</b>, donkeys, mules, <b>sheep</b> and <b>pigs</b> you are legally required to report it to the police.

I don’t have time to go through the Act like a Lawyer but I believe one is obliged to stop and report in these cases. Certain animals like foxes, cats and deer you don’t have to report.

Clearly a large animal like a deer can provide reasonable doubt in case of actual collision with a human but a cat can’t.

I’m fairly certain not everyone call a recovery truck for every deer v vehicle – there were no pics of the van in the article (and may not have been in court) which makes it hard to know how bad it was damaged.

The damage was bad enough for it to be put on a recovery truck and for the copper to see significant damage from the verge on the other carriageway. How much does a deer weight? 100-150 kg? Hit at 70 mph and that’s 3000-4000 N of force. It’s quite likely you won’t actually be able to drive away.

In this case the Driver hit a cyclist say weighing 80 kg at say 50 mph closing speed = 1700 N of so. Enough to bounce the cyclist almost 50 m down the road. I’d say the vehicle was a bit more than scratched, hence “almost caved in” according to the Crown.

here did you see what he searched on the internet?

It’s in the article

He searched for ‘road closures’ after the accident and ‘contact police’ the next day.

Trying to hit your max HR during training won’t make you fast. You need to build a big base first and threshold training is more useful after that.

Unbelievable idiocy to placate the Daily Mail types.

They might have ‘milked it for interest payments’ but my understanding is they still made a loss. Would be happy to be corrected though.

It’s not like the previous owners did anything to benefit the staff either. They willingly crippled a company for their own financial gain.

Well private equity move it to invest a little and try and then pump up the value of the business and sell it on. It’s a form of speculation.

In this case their gamble failed.