Can anyone help with what they mean by the frame size?

Isla and frog 11” and hoy 20” this seems a big difference for all bikes 20” wheel or am i misunderstanding this?

Sorry what I mean is why are the frog and Isla 11” frame and the hoy 20” when these are comparable bikes 20” wheels

I know the 55 is the inside leg

Can anyone explain the frame sizes frog and Isla 11” hot 20” but these bikes are all in the same category?

I’ve been looking today and I am going to rule out a specialized at this stage, I am going to go with either of the 3 below, the 2 original ones I mentioned and a new one in the mix HOY Bonaly 20

Slightly confused on something the Frog is 20″ wheels 11″ frame same as Isla, Hoy says 20″ wheels and 20″ frame?

HOY Bonaly 20

ISLA Bienn 20

FROG 55

Can look at the Hoy in Evenscycle, the Frog in Edinburgh bike co-op although have a frog 48 already, so just need to source someone with the Isla locally to have a look at it

Anyone any experience with the Specialized hotrock range?

Also read a post about the orbea mx20 look good also nothing about weight tho

Weight was always low with the Isla and frog which is great for his age

He cycles mostly on bumpy paths where we take the dog

I do like specialized bikes for myself and having a look about after the recommendation of the riprock 20…what about the hotrock 20?

Cant seem to find any weight info on the hotrock 20 tho?

I agree this is a little overthinking but its more to get an idea of what is better overall.

To be honest I doubt he will get the hang of gears or even use them for another 6 months either way

so whats the general opinion on the gears, suppose it comes down the the child, i don’t think he will have trouble changing the gears on the grip shift as seems to be a issue with some kids but who knows, just looking for general opinion

Isla grip shift

Frog thumb leavers

razorrazoo do you have isla and changed the gears is that what you mean?

yeah the Isla MTB dont start until 24″ but at £799 thats a lot of money, I’d defo opt for a frog or specialized at this stage for sure

But for this age just now defo between the frog 55 and beinn 20

Hey

Yeah the resale thing is in a lot of posts, but is equally true of Frog. I paid £200 for my frog 48 just before it was hiked up to £250 and they are selling for £180 2nd hand so even if I get £150 its only cost me £50 for a great bike over 18 months

I have read mixed reviews on the gripshift but does seem to be a lot of people saying thumb shifter is better or altered their Isla, makes me wonder why Isla done this

not sure I would get to see an Isla with gripshift before xmas as there online, but woudl be great, might ask around his school

to be honest I am between the Isla and the Frog, just as I have had them before and they have done the job. With the resell value and the fact his little brother will get use, and they use them most weekends to cycle when out with dog I dont mind the costs.

Its the two different gears I am trying to gauge which is best

Hey would have to be in Red, but thanks anyway.

My frog 48 has been great but just trying to decide on the better gears.

Had a look at the Specialized Riprock 20 looks too much extras for 5.5year old suspension fork, front disks, maybe next one up after this

does the specialized still have a coaster brake on these?

I am thinking I may just take the jump up in size at Xmas this year, as come September for his bday I think he will definitely be to big for the frog 48.

I am looking also at frog 52 but 55 makes more sense along with the Isla beinn 20.

He had an Isla balance bike then the frog 48

Yes I can see this being an 18 month change for the next while anyway, but least his little brother will get use out them then a resell helps

Thanks, no probs if its an easy enough job, although doubt I will actually bother removing them, was just wondering how easy it was to do. Cheers for the advice folks

I’ll also take a look into the Frog tadpole and thanks again to everyone else that posted.

How easy is it someone (i.e bike shop) to remove the brake on the Isla and then refit this at a later stage, if I decided this as an option?

Thanks again for all the info and your own personal recommendations, to be honest I am now swaying more to the Islabike, mainly because the difference between that and the Specialized isnt a great deal, but least the isla has a brake if required, and he prob wont really use the brake at first and guess its good to have, I do like the fact the Specialized has somewhere to put there feet like one poster mentioned, do kids on the isla use the bars as foot rests?

Either way Im sure he will have lots of fun on either of them which is the main thing

Thanks for all the info and feedback.

It does seem to be a 50/50 out there for a brake or no brake, and the main point is with or without a brake it hasn’t stopped there progress at the next stage.

Had a look at the strider bike and it also looks good, and very light 2.9 compare too 3.4kg on the isla, I am still pretty set on the Isla or Specialized but will have a better look at strider again. I contacted my local bike shop who sell the Specialized and they think they can fit a brake if required down the line.