Ugh! I think I’d be running round screaming as well if it ran up my arm <shudder>

Northwind – Member
What is a wooden banana tree thing?

Doesn’t everyone have them or is this a North v South issue? anyway I’m lead to believe it was a DT project I hate to think we paid money to hang up bananas rather than have them in the fruit bowl.

I did break out my old air rifle, they had a melt down.. 😕

I use it sailing, got a few KOMs on our lake and on the channel.

As a single man? No never.

As a married man, they are everywhere including on the bed which are then removed even if I happen to be laying on them watching the TV, before she goes to bed.

There is however an answer.

Buy a doberman type dog, dobermans love or hate cushions I haven’t quite decided which, but they do destroy them constantly. There is however a slight downside, they also destroy or attempt to destroy trainers, bike gloves, bike saddles, bike helmets, back packs, sheep, and the occasional passing school kid, so they need handling appropriately.

Here’s one that happened to the mate of a mate…

He gets off the plane in Dublin and is immediately handcuffed to a dwarf, he then has to spend the entire three days doing everything together…

The Finale was being dressed in full lycra one piece and taken to a comedy show, where prior to the event ‘they’ laced his drink with viagra.

He was then called up onto the stage still attached with his proud appendage.. 😆

A stag none of the participants will forget.

I’ve got 4 daughters, I wonder which one he’d think was UKIP, tbh I’d never heard of him he sounded like a scouser wendyballer so his opinion was of no consequence to me and anyway I’d dozed off at that point, but tell me what’s the difference between him and those Opera critics that called that singer squat and fat, it’s just a symptom of society today.

Gentlemen why have you ignored the Junkers JU-52 in its awesomeness?

I don’t think the Press are anti Islam any more than they were anti IRA, or recently anti UKIP, they have their little biases from time to time if they are given cause.

I do however feel remorse for what happens at times to Muslims over here at a personal level as demonstrated to a prospective son in law when he had the gall to sit with his back pack on a pile of his luggage waiting to be met at Charing Cross, what happened to him was probably what that unfortunate Brazilian lad tried to avoid and ended up being shot for it.

So it’s not just the Press that are prejudiced against Religious or Racial Types. Then again he might have been a Hindu, how were they to know, it wasn’t writ large on his back pack.

But why is it happening? Well we’ll soon not be permitted to know exactly since the Chilcott enquiry isn’t going to show who possibly the real criminal in all this is.

As to the school thing I’m against any religion being forced on kids other than that which has been the status quo for centuries here and is easily ignored without fear of death or honour killing.

If a multi national muslim task force were to say attack and depose Mugabe, then leave, I don’t think I’d be headed out there with a group of Christian soldiers hell bent on jihad, holy war, or whatever, it just wouldn’t happen.

Islam sadly is the religion most likely to encourage war on its behalf, that is a fact we can either appease, or ignore at our peril imv, I don’t think there is another doctrine quite like it, so we should be on our guard however unpleasant it ends up being, but it doesn’t make what happens to individuals at times any less unpleasant.

Turn in my grave.

Late to this but have read through most of the arguments and can’t help having sympathy with both sides.

Personally I managed to bring up kids without exposing them to the Golden Arches and the three eldest still avoid it to this day, the fourth however would be all over binners like a bad rash, so my choice is wether I’m happy to enforce my beliefs by making her not hang out with her friend who happens to have a parent with a less than enlightened attitude to food and kids.

I wouldn’t however lose that much sleep over it, with kids you can but show them a way, if they follow all well and good if they choose not to, then san ferry anne, you did your best.

Funny last night a good mate was teaching his kid to be a fish murderer, and the little b’stard was pulling out Rudd by the dozen, we engaged in some friendly banter, I pointed out to the kid those little fish were some big fish’s children and how would he liked being dragged up into the sky by a space alien with a hook in his mouth and through the jest you could see he was thinking about it, – then went back to catch another dozen. The point is, they’ve got their own minds, you have to accept that and guide rather than force with your own values…

Lots about at the moment, this showed up quite quickly
Or a nice red one

I use electric when travelling, even then I get my aftershave nicked on occasion, I’m sure there’s a scam on toiletries operating out of city airport.

So as long as you have them all in a plastic bag outside of your bag and there is no more than 100ml of liquid you’re O.K.

Back to the Future – check out that 4×4, so I did.

He has to go and I find myself agreeing with Junkyard and Farron would be the natural choice, would Farage had had as much publicity if Clegg hadn’t invited him to debate? Had he not taken a deliberate pro Europe stance despite some of us lib dems being anti European political integration, would we have had such a bad result.
If he had any decency at all he’d fall on his sword.

A temple

Nope missed it, probably to busy posting bollox on forums instead of paying attention. (Tricky when you have a few on the go)

Think I’ve got it now it’s the reporter guy having a melt down..

What’s with the two kids in the boat is that a flashback or now? It’s stuff like that, that winds me up.

Anyone going to persevere, only doing it because of the Mrs, it’s very irritating..

Wore my lenses for 20hrs straight yesterday on a very long ride.
Woke up this morning and my left eye refuses to focus
Anyone else had this, and will my vision come back?

Yes and yes, got very badly ‘snowblinded’ driving down through France one year, always wear shades and don’t over do it in bright light.

I eventually gave them up given half the time i was wearing them I was on snow, or water or riding and had to wear shades anyway.

ernie_lynch – Member
you don’t get much further right than Islam
I’m assuming you haven’t heard of the Third Pillar of Islam.

Ha I can just see you and your lefty hand wringers putting up with just 2.5% as a welfare payment.. yeah give me a break and as for the gay lobby dealing with sharia…

Yeah bring that on if you really want to whine about right wingedness..

The total irony is that you don’t get much further right than Islam.

Rusty Spanner – Member
When you die, your hair and finger nails keep growing (apparently) so I guess we don’t stop growing when were alive.
Urban myth.

Had to photograph a grave once, loads of (ironically given the ginger thread)ginger hair growing out of it.

sneakyg4 – Member
Everyone knows that Ginger girls are the Dirtiest best looking.

Rusty roof – damp cellar.

Most likely hair colouring to resist bowel cancer I read in the paper recently.

Lots of dinghy sailing types Mountain Bike as an alternate sport, I wasn’t aware a Mountain biking forum was the sole province of the urban sprawl and so we’re precluded?

deadlydarcy – Member
Far better than the normal racist bigotry you spout.

Oh dear, he hasn’t used the term bongo bongo land as well has he, is it really that touchy here all the time?

So are Junkyard and Woppit the same person then? Or does Junkyard take it upon him/herself to answer for anyone he feels like?

He/she is very rude isn’t he/she?

bloodynora – Member
Rossatease I’d give up if I were you fella, you’ll just get copy n pasted until you lose the will to live

best bit of advice I’ve seen here.. I’ll take it thanks

Is he/she for real?

Guardianistas don’t you just love em?

Junkyard – guardianista
on the left, who are evil

Correct

Junkyard – guardianista
FWIW I can categorically state than I have never used racist language by design though I support your right to out yourself as the type of person who has whilst calling those who object to this “pricks”.

Never?

Pretty categorical that, never. Never used a term that some wing of the SWP couldn’t dredge up from your oh so perfect past to use against you?

No Spear Chucker, Towel head, or even closer to home, Mick, Paddy, Jock, Taffy, Pikey, or don’t regionalisations count? Brummie, Scouse, Jordie, and why is bongo bongo land any worse than Jordie land?

It’s what gets me all this, it’s all so hypocritical, all white mans guilt.

Racism is everywhere, it is endemic in the human condition, and it should be fought at every turn, but that doesn’t count in pathetically trivialising it for political point scoring as so often occurs and then the debate itself gets left, wether that debate is Overseas aid, immigration, or discrimination in the workplace.

In the greater scheme of things a throw away remark like that is/was trivial and the furore caused by it pointless and in my view serves the wrong final conclusion.

You, I would accuse of talking bollox saying you’ve never said a racist thing ever and I’m calling bullshit..

@ rossatease: I don’t agree. I think Bloom has done us a service in that he has allowed everybody to see what a racist dunderhead looks like and open up the discussion. Also, to uncover that “cross-section” of nasty boorish nationalism that infects our debate, which goes into an immediate knee-jerk dance of agreement with xenophobic publicity-seekers like this.

I note, despite now seeming to disagree with them, you don’t take the opportunity describe them as “rightie slapheads” or the like. I think that there are many more who simply think that the man is a prat. They just don’t appear on your radar, probably because you think that anybody who doesn’t agree with UKIP is a “leftie hand-wringer”, whatever that is.

I’d still like to know where you personally stand on the issue of racist language in the public domain and also what should be done about the current system of International Aid…

Clearly you don’t agree or you wouldn’t be bashing that keyboard so vigorously, where I stand?

I’m of the ‘may not agree with what is said, but would die defending the right of folk to say it type, a standard sadly eroded from existence and that erosion comes from the left.

I hate the left as I hate the right in equal measure, they’re both a vexation to my spirit, in this place there seem to be more from the left than the right, judging from the response, calling some one a ‘righty slaphead’ does that make a point any better than his bongo bongo quote.

He’s been stupid enough to erode the point he was trying to get across, a very valid point I might ad, I’m not altogether comfortable with the fact we’re borrowing so much to give away, but then neither am I comfortable with the excessive executive salaries in both the private and public sectors whilst front line staff are being purged and don’t even get me started on banks and bonuses.

But back to your point it is leftie hand wringers that make the most noise, they are the most self righteous pricks and I suppose wind me up more than the hang em all types, so does that make me a righty slap head? I’m not sure I’d have used the term bongo bongo, but I couldn’t deny having ever used racist language wether by design or accident in my day to day existence and half the time like most I probably wouldn’t know I’d done it can you?

No, I can see I have confused my message in all that waffle, which simply stated is as follows

UKIP not a good thing.

UKIP bozo makes typical UKIP bozo remark.

Left wing press, and or Tory electioneering waller spread it far and wide assuming they will damage UKIPs case. As do several leftie hand wringers here.

The point they are all missing is that there are a lot more people out there that think like that than either the left or right realise imv. All publicity like this does is raise sympathy. We’ve never had a political discussion at that sailing club in the twenty odd years I’ve been going there.

It’s everywhere these days, people you speak to are on the phone to, talk to in the newsagents did that groundswell in the local elections not say anything to anyone? There is real momentum building.

And Ernie, saying I bet something doesn’t mean I’m a mind reader chum, I’m just commenting on what I’ve noticed of late and calling blokes like whatever his name was an obviously semi successful businessman a moron doesn’t actually help, better he’d been ignored altogether, now he’s a hero in some circles.

Mr Woppit – Member
I’m more interested now in your description how we are going to be “saved” by “UKIP”.

D’you like the idea of a strong leadership “dealing” with our “problems”?

Er.. that is what is being ‘sold’ by all this, not me espousing it as a solution.

My point, clearly not made well, is that, the more ‘ordinary seeming folk” using the sort of day to day language gets ridiculed and reviled in the style that has been prevalent in the news media and on here, the more they get sympathy. The more ‘racist’ gets used as a means of shutting down debate, the more anger simmers beneath the surface amongst normally none politically motivated types, scratch the surface and everyone is racist in one way or another, it’s a basic human tribalistic condition.

As to UKIP being ’embarrassed’ into action, they have the faint whiff of success in the Farage camp, no doubt now surrounded by their own spin doctors attempting rapid turd polishing, hence the reaction, but privately, I bet they’re loving it.

Mr Woppit – Member
Care to deal with my points? You DID ask what they were.

I think if you read the gist of what I’m saying you’ll see actually we aint that far off in fear of the possible outcome of all this.

As far as ‘bongo bongo” land if indeed it is Africa, the Chinese are all over it like a bad rash anyway except they’re doing it in true totalitarian style, no money just building stuff, but using their own labour and quietly expanding in exactly the same colonial style the west did years before only without the guns and ripping the resources out faster than we ever did.

athgray – Member
There is nothing positive, and everything moronic about following people that use this kind of language. Godfrey Bloom seems nothing more than a xenophobic isolationist goon.

True, but, a sad fact of life there are or were 10 million Sun readers all with votes, if we’re concerned about the moronic and them being goaded into action.

All their problems start and finish with Europe, their money is going to finance ray bans, flats in paris and putting Nigerians into space, oh and we’re borrowing it and high paid executives and old Etonian Rich boys are doing it, and UKIP is going to save you from all this…And the lefties who cause all these problems are trying to stop them.

Simple rhetoric even a moron gets it and the more publicity that surrounds it, the more likely they are to vote.

Is my point.

If he hadn’t said bongo bongo and or nobody had picked up on it, we’d be none the wiser, so what’s worse, the fact he said it, or the sheer noise created by the furore surrounding it?

Mr Woppit – Member
I don’t have to think, no-ones paying me to think, I’m just recounting what goes on in those clubs around the country and they’re warming to UKIP.
Marvellous. You don’t have to think because you don’t get paid to. Sound argument, that. Let’s all not think, eh? That’s the way forward.

So, you’ve been in a lot of clubs apart from your sailing one, then? What sort of clubs were they? Do a lot of straw-poll travelling, do you?

What’s your point chap?

Want me to change my view? Fall in with yours, tut tut at the nasty boorish man for saying bongo bongo land and be all comfy self righteous?

All I’m doing, and not necessarily agreeing with it, is pointing out to all the soft lad, wilfully outraged, hand wringing lefties that the more outraged they appear, the more the mouldering masses are going to react positively to people like this.

You may be one of them, you may not be one of them, but surely you can see the bigger picture that is evolving here.

The state we are in was brought about by political correctness, the movement that is just beginning to roll the pendulum just a tad too far over to the right is being egged on by crap like this.

Build a bridge..

Don’t do this, a lot of pain follows..

About a dozen or so, and obviously the more verbose were the UKippers, couple of SOCA fellas, couple of retired loaded blokes, metal worker, chippy, sparks, charity security bloke works away but back for vacation he’s a string em up sort, and a banker, ironically of more moderate views, two out of work but used to be in the print game made redundant and took early retirement, oh and the proverbial bar man.

I don’t have to think, no-ones paying me to think, I’m just recounting what goes on in those clubs around the country and they’re warming to UKIP.

KFC & Eastenders – life is hell.

Fish murderers, don’t you just love them?

Think I might have given the wrong impression with the term ‘yacht’ club, sailing club might be more appropriate, particularly if as I appear to be, dealing with call centre cublicled proletariat on wheels. 😉

It’s just a typical cross section of wage earning brits, pissed off with financing India & now Nigerias space programme..

Junkyard – Guardianista
What you see as furthering UKIP’s cause I view as fracturing the right wing vote to make it harder for them to get into power.
Keep up the good work we could not do it without people like you

That is very true, except it is the Green Party that has benefited *most, so I win.

crankboy – Member
rossatease were the members of the sailing club of Asian and African descent of the same view?

Do you actually know any Asian or African descended people? If you did, you’d realise they think just like us, and are just other people, same as us, some right some left, more often right than left is my experience as it happens I have two very good friends, one of Indian descent the other Afro Caribbean, both looking at voting UKIP next go round, I argue with them constantly. Racism isn’t just a white mans burden I’ve found and they, we, are British they don’t even think any other way and any means of isolating them by the suggestion that politically they should think different, because of their skin colour or heritage, is in itself racist, if we are being punctilious about this. The Left are not the guardians of racial tolerance.

*In my area

I have immunity to lycra syndrome.