No one has thought about the clinicians so far in this thread. As some have pointed out, premature babies can survive from 21 weeks or so now – so we are asking clinicians to sustain life at that age and also to take life knowing it could be sustained. For anyone being asked to do that on a routine basis that is a pretty big ask – I’m not sure I could do it and perhaps some consideration in the current debate should be given to those in the NHS that we make these requests of?