i have just got back from a 2 day stint in wales. My son and i did penmachno, chlimax and the trail with the horns at cyb. We ended up doing chlimax twice i really enjoyed that, penmachno was good also we did both loops, the cyb route was crap i have done the beast there but the one we did this time had far too much fireroad. Going back in a few days to do nant yr arian so looking forward too that.