I disagree – Orig. uncert.

Terribly sorry for bothering, I better go!!!

Freedom and democracy are worth fighting for if that is what is really the aim.

If we were really fighting for freedom and democracy during WWII in Europe, why did we allow Fascism to continue in Portugal and Spain for so long?

If the Boers were fighting for freedom from British rule in Africa can the British be seen as fighting against freedom and democracy in that war?

Were the British anti-democratic in the repression of the Irish struggle for freedom and democracy?

Just a couple of thoughts.

Looks like a get out clause to me.

Rusty, you can have her with your chippy tea though I personally thought Dawn has always looked fine.

To remember the fallen that FOUGHT for this country.

Oh I didnt know that I’ll go out and buy an adidas tracksuit asap.

Nah not really it’s all about HAIL THE NEW DAWN.

Blimey I only thought the music might be in line with one of the organisers use of language on their blog.

Namely, the Industrial fell blog daftest ride redux posting with the lovely use of ‘gyp’. Obviously a reference to gypsy. Thanks for that one.

“The route is best described as a monster. Approximately 130 miles, 15000-ish feet of vertical ascent and several really big hills..nay, mountains to ride over. Most of the route is off-road and plenty of unrideable, ‘hike-a-bike’ sections to ensure the calves get plenty of gyp.”

Surely it is political. Fighting for your country is a political conviction as is dying for it. War is political.

What about people that hate animals so much they refuse to eat them. I know a few people that hold that opinion.

What about SKREWDRIVER Back with A Bang! Great song and relates to the pyrotechnic theme.

When I was 5 years old I fell out of a car whilst going around a dual carriageway roundabout. Managed to grab hold of the arm rest whilst falling out and was flying in mid air whilst looking back at all the cars behind me that would surely have ground me into the tarmac if I’d let go.

Travelled around half of the roundabout whilst in mid air until my dad could turn off at the next available exit. Even then there was the danger of me letting go and getting run over by our own car. Still don’t know how I managed to survive that one.

Still makes me freak out about it even now some 40 years later. My dad gave me a right bollocking aswell.

He’ll go and maybe in the near future we’ll see the splitting up of Italy between the poorer south and the richer north.

Yeah weather looks awesome. About to head out to hope and go up win hill. Should be sweet.

What about naked raygun, leatherface, senseless things, Venus beads, shudder to think, mega city four, dag nasty wig out at Denkos period.

English is a german language anyways

or if you wanna go for the cheap option … ccc or decathlon. Ebay?

http://www.slidesnowboardstore.co.uk/

Love the irony of using johnny foreigner and the Royal House of Saxe Coburg Gotha in the same sentence.

I got a Rome jibber.

Looking forward to Aviemore in the new year and France/Swissland in March. Hoping for snow in the Peaks sooner rather than later.

That’s cool. Thanks for letting me know. That last section featured in most of the vids looks sweet!! I used to ride the downhills quite alot at FOD a few years ago but don’t really get down to that part of the world as much as I used to though we will be hitting it soon.

I’m gonna ride some of the other trails aswell. Will give the freeminers a blast.

cheers.

I thought it was this bands time.

http://www.wulyf.org/

Peru and Bolivia.

If braziery copper is cleaned then it usually gets priced at the top rate.

Stripped copper cable is usually at the top rate as its high quality stuff, though you have to decide on the amount of time it takes to strip it versus what you get for unstripped cable.

Tarifa has rock climbing areas, just google for them. The surf around Tarifa picks up in the winter months but it is mainly a kite / wind surf area. check magic seaweed for wave info. Obviously being the med the waves are created by wind rather than swell.

There’s some good camping places around tarifa aswell. We camped for free for weeks in our van outside tarifa going west, there’s a cool surf beach with a bar/cafe and a big field. Lots of Brit New Age travellers come down from the sierra nevada mountains and summer there free for months as its a public field.

Other than that I’d look at san sebastian, surf beach right in the town centre and the Pyrenees mountains directly behind it. But I guess that goes for quite a bit of the coastline down there of north spain and south france as you’ve either got the pyrenees or the picos de europa to choose from to climb in.

It’s

your rage!

not

youre rage!

thicko!!

and I’m chillin!!!

I’ll make an assumption and say ‘ you stay at your work desk, occasionally flicking on to this forum and I’ll be having a blast out in the Peak District. Jal.

Blimey! Did you just work that one out? Stalin as bad as Hitler. Well done!!!

Would like to stay around for more of your political analysis but the Peak district illegal singletracks are beckoning.

Oh yeah! All you moralisers can **** off with your preaching. So what if crime goes up. Boo!! Hoo!! Like some of you gorgers aint committed crimes. Lets see all you admit you are all so holy. I bet some of you have cooked your books if you have run your own companies. I bet you’ve driven over the speed limit, stolen, beat people up, committed fraud, etc etc. I bet loads of you have committed loads of crimes.

The NSDAP had problems with Gypsies because they had interbred with subhumans, predominantly slavic peoples which had tainted their Aryan blood.

You still sound like a moralising upright citizen. I bet you have never broken the law in your life! Such a good little boy.

Stop using pikey when you dont even know what the word means.

The ridiculous comments continue throughout the whole of the thread.

Tablesalt stop moralising and preaching you sound like a christian.

I think you gorgers need to get back to talking about biking you clowns! Dinlo gorgers! Cori Bal.

Yunki stop jibbing with the gorgers.

Are the English an ethnic group or just a shitty German sub group?

Bad Brains – Big Takeover at CBGBs ….. power!!

Nah, 1in12 was after her time though she did go to alot of gigs in Bradford in the 70s and early 80s.

I used to go to the 1in12 though!!!

Lived in Bradford for 6 yrs. That was enough!!! Lived in Hudds and Brighouse before that. Now in Sheffo.

B.a.nana – No, it was deffo the Bierkeller. Black Flag played there, and saw conflict there quite a few times. One of the best gigs was Crucifix and Anti-Sect. Totally amzing!!

My sis played in a band with members of the Cult, well when they were known as Violation pre-SDC.

in the 80’s we used to go to alot of gigs in Leeds though there was alot of animosity between Huddersfield and Leeds punks and skins so we used to keep a little quiet. Brannigans in Leeds then moving on to the Bierkeller, Adam & Eves and then the Duchess.

We used to travel about quite a bit to many other northern towns and cities, usually Manchester, Liverpool (Planet X), Wigan, Preston, Sunderland, Newcastle and down south quite a bit to Leicester, Coventry, Nottingham, The Mermaid in Brum and a few places in London like the George Robey, Clarendon Ballroom, SOAAOS.

If you went to the Mayflower the I guess you must have seen BLITZ quite a few times!!!!

I’m still lliving the 80’s now though I do like alot of new bands today but I guess when you were younger the bands felt more real to you then.

BLITZ, VIOLATORS, BLITZKRIEG, ATTAK, GBH, INSANE, ULTRA VIOLENT, CRASH, ONE WAY SYSTEM, CHAOS UK, DISORDER, AMEBIX, CRASS, CIRT, FLUX, CONFLICT, CHUMBA’S, DISCHARGE, ICONS OF FILTH, ANTI-SYSTEM ,ANTI-SECT…. the list is endless

MINOR THREAT, SSD, NEGATIVE APPROACH, CRUCIFIX, BAD BRAINS, NAPALM DEATH, HERESY, SACRILEGE, ELECTRO HIPPIES, CULTURE SHOCK, GRAY MATTER, EMBRACE, STRAIGHT AHEAD, YOUTH OF TODAY, ANTI-CIMEX.

Bit of action in the Peaks last winter.

Er … we did Derwent Edge in the end guys. Damn windy and alot of rain while we were up there. So windy we both got headaches!! Horizontal rainaswell!! By the time we got back down to Ladybower Inn the sun was out and the temperature rose incredibly. The trails are solid.

Well Gee knows all about bog snorklin eh?

Looking at the dark peak for alternatives but if we do CG we’ll have a camera with us anyways.

Yeah I’ve done a bit of the top moor. It was so muddy my bike was able to stand up on its own! In a perverse kind of way I’m still kinda interested in doing it!