Try http://www.lilybankfarmcottage.co.uk , not far from Strines train station, bike friendly and they can sort you out with routes as well!

Maybe they didn't realise it was a competition to ride the cheapest bike…

Could always get some older revs second hand? Cheaper and IS mount.

Yeah, I had 2 S8's from merlin that lacked seals and stainless bearings!

The orbit MX's that on-one were selling recently were the proper ones.

I got a ragley spike the other day, seems pretty good for the money.

I have some 120mm Drakes going spare if you are interested ton?

All 3!

Presumably you carry what you generally need though? ie some water, some method of reinflating a tyre, a minitool, etc. (For a normal ride, not a race).

Stuff in the camelbak is only wasted weight if you don't need it though. You could head out on every ride with no pump, no tubes, no tools and no water, would save alot of weight but wouldn't be a great idea!

Sounds like Hora is talking about Parkin clough.

I really like mine, not the lightest frame out there, rides nicely and is very versatile though. Perhaps not the best option if you are the sort of penny-pinching curmudgeon who would rather tot up how much his bike cost on a spreadsheet rather than ride it…

Assume you have free will. If you are right, then well done. If not, then you had no choice in the assumption anyway.

Just eat a pork pie!

I'd also open late one day and and have a late night opening. And if you are really crazy, open at 7am one day, then people can call in before work.

Yeah loads of people cannot get away 9-5, seems like a good idea to give them a chance.

I shall not be buying that top because it looks shi-ite.

You are buying the top, not the model!

You don't need the clip.

I could have sworn Marple wasn't in Scotland…

A T15's definitely too big, I've used a T10 before, they shouldn't be that tight anyway.

The bearings in mine have died after about a year, unfortunately the races in the hub are pitted, so it is somewhat terminal, going to keep running it until it dies completely though.

Yeah I know, just saying it seems harsh to blame poor maintenance when it's supposedly a maintenance free part! In my experience they are very vulnerable to water getting in from inside the frame, which a cartridge type BB is obviously not going to suffer from.

poor maintenance

You aren't supposed to maintain HT2 BB's though, at least not shimano ones, they have "do not disassemble" written on them!

coming from people who probably don't realise the effort involved in getting a truly light bike,

Effort? Building your own frame would be effort, buying a load of expensive bits just requires cash! Unless you are talking about drilling holes in cranks…

Only use the TV for watching dvd's, very rarely anything I'd watch on broadcast TV so no great loss. Saves you 150 quid a year as well!

Is this some strange new definition of the word ignorant?

You're imagining things, everyone knows shimano brakes never go wrong…

Note to self: Do not buy 2nd hand forks from Hora…

A bit of 1 1/4" plastic pipe works fine.

pypdjl, is that genuinely all you've got?

No, it's not all I have got, but you asked why it was obvious to someone with a basic grasp of science. Without an estimate of the error in the measurements, the graphs are totally meaningless.

Error bars?

Are you going to explain why you believe this to be true?

It's pretty obvious to anyone with a basic grasp of the scientific method.

Ah right, yes that does look like a bit of a nightmare. Not really relevant to current Hope brakes though!

unlike my M4's which needed bleeding more or less everday i had them in the alps

That would suggest there is something wrong with them!

and had the stupidest, most annoying, most complicated pad retention system since the last time i looked at avids.

Er, the pad retention is just a pin going through the hole at the top of the pads, how is that complicated? Or was it different on the old M4's?

Check out the dyno numbers in the WMB/MBUK test, it's all there in black and white- new Deore is stronger than any of the Hopes tested, in repeatable bench tests.

Those tests are a magazine gimmick, there factual content is zero.

I do feel big blokes will experience the low BB more with pedal strikes.

Why would that be the case? If you're worried about pedal strikes I wouldn't be recommending specialized either!

Ok I'm getting very bored of this thread now as well, if you'd just point out the shite in stating that something is lighter than something else when it is, in fact, lighter?

Classy.

I said: "a decent helmet mount, light weight and a much longer burn time would explain it." Presumably when you said "cobblers", you actually meant: "yes, it is lighter and has a better helmet mount, but the burn times are approximately the same"? Only if that is what you intended to say, it would have been clearer to actually say it!

Actually I pointed out exactly why torches are better in every way than a Joystick

Cobblers frankly. You conceded the joystick has a better burn time, and dodged the fact that they are lighter.

I like my Spesh The Captain tryes

Where did you get them from?, can't seem to find anywhere in the UK that sells 29er specialized tyres.

You must be one of the few then, all my M8's who owned joysticks, bought a P7 and flogged their JS on ebay.

Not in my experience, I know loads of people with joysticks, and no-one else apart from me with a P7!